The Mid Tribulation Rapture

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iamlamad

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veteran said:
I read just fine! But obviously you cannot, since you're not even addressing the Revelation 12 Scripture in question!!!

Why are you so obstinate and rebellious???


Rev 12:13-16
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
(KJV)
Why are you so obstinate and rebellious???

I know the truth; I will never let go of truth, to swallow a lie.

Lamad
Eric E Stahl said:
Zechariah 14:1-5
1Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

[SIZE=14pt](When the army of Israel flees, it will be to the river ford on the Arnon River 1/3 of the way south on the other side of the dead sea.[/SIZE]

The antichrist will be caused to send an army after the fleeing Jews by the serpent. The army will be swollowed by the earth as the Egyptians were wsollowed by the Red Sea!)
Good scripture, Eric! But this is a DIFFERENT fleeing. This fleeing will be on the day Jesus comes. The Rev. 12 fleeing will happen exactly at the midpoint of the week, when they SEE the abomination.

I have often wondered about these: somehow they have survived the Beast for 3 1/2 years, RIGHT IN JERUSALEM! It seems they too MUST have had supernatural protection...or just held captive as prisoners. Veteran, any ideas?

Lamad
 

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iamlamad said:
Why are you so obstinate and rebellious???

I know the truth; I will never let go of truth, to swallow a lie.

Lamad

Good scripture, Eric! But this is a DIFFERENT fleeing. This fleeing will be on the day Jesus comes. The Rev. 12 fleeing will happen exactly at the midpoint of the week, when they SEE the abomination.

I have often wondered about these: somehow they have survived the Beast for 3 1/2 years, RIGHT IN JERUSALEM! It seems they too MUST have had supernatural protection...or just held captive as prisoners. Veteran, any ideas?

Lamad
The Zech.14 fleeing isn't about wanting to go into the desert or mountains to escape the coming Antichrist. Why?

Because Zech.14:5 is talking about fleeing to Azal (means 'proximity, he has reserved'). Still at present NO ONE knows where Azal is located.

That Scripture event aligns with Apostle Paul's 1 Thess.4 Scripture of being "caught up" on that "day of The LORD" when Jesus comes.
 

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Those of us who do not exatly know about the Tribulation , there are three main beliefs regarding the time frame of the Rapture :

Pre-Tribulation Rapture:

The most popularly taught view among Christian faiths is known as the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, or “Pre-Trib” theory. Those who accept this perspective believe the Rapture will happen just before the tribulation period, at the beginning of the seventieth week of Daniel. The Rapture will usher in the final seven years of this age. True followers of Jesus Christ will be transformed into their spiritual bodies in the Rapture and taken from the Earth to be in Heaven with God. Non-believers will be left behind to face severe tribulation as the antichrist prepares to take his place as the Beast half way through the seven year period. According to this view, non-believers will still come to accept Christ, in spite of the Church’s absence during this time, however, these new Christians will endure extreme persecution, to the point of death by beheading.

Mid-Tribulation Rapture:

A less popular view is known as the Mid-Tribulation Rapture, or “Mid-Trib” theory. Those who accept this perspective believe that Christians will be taken from the Earth to be in Heaven with God at some point during the middle of the seven year period of tribulation.

Post-Tribulation Rapture:

Another popular view is known as the Post-Tribulation Rapture, or “Post-Trib” theory. Those who accept this perspective believe that Christians will remain on the Earth as witnesses during the seven year tribulation period, until the very end of this age. According to this view, believers will be either removed or protected from the terrible wrath of God predicted toward the end of the seven years in the book of Revelation.
 

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God's Word teaches only ONE timing for the resurrection, and that is at the END of the tribulation when Jesus comes to gather His Church in two parts, the asleep saints in Heaven which He BRINGS WITH HIM, and then the alive saints on earth which He gathers at His coming per 1 Thess.4.

Jesus taught this order in His Olivet Discourse of Matt.24 and Mark 13 which is for ALL His Church, Gentiles included. That is especially shown by His Book of Revelation specifically given to... the seven Christian Churches in Asia (Asia Minor), given through His servant Apostle John. Jesus gave 7 main signs in His Olivet Discourse, and they directly parallel the 7 seals, 7 trumpets, and 7 vials of Revelation.

That means only a ONE TIME COMING of Christ Jesus, not two or three.