Yeah, but ya gotta Repent Of all of your sins before you die....right? Sometimes your posts do not include “ full disclosure” ......why do you not reveal your “ true” Gospel most Of The time? It could mislead those that do not know the REAL you.....you do not really Believe what you post when you try to appear like a “ Grace Plus Nothing” type of guy....like me...
The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !
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Yeah, but ya gotta Repent Of all of your sins before you die....right? Sometimes your posts do not include “ full disclosure” ......why do you not reveal your “ true” Gospel most Of The time? It could mislead those that do not know the REAL you.....you do not really Believe what you post when you try to appear like a “ Grace Plus Nothing” type of guy....like me...
Why does God say certain things in one verse and then seem to contradict them in another? Is He not showing the real Him?
I do not have the time or energy to always reconcile the apparent contradictions that arise in people's minds when I say one thing in one place and something that seems to contradict it in another.
But let me just say this...that in God's scheme of things, those who place their faith in Jesus also have repentance on the table.
For if you believe Jesus' words, say, for example, in Matthew 13:41-42; Matthew 7:23, Matthew 25:41, your faith in Jesus and His words is going to lead you to repentance.
That is a given.
No According to John 10
9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture.
2 Pet 3:9 has been abused !
Many have used the scripture in 2 Pet 3:9 as a proof text that God wants all men without exception to come to repentance. That that interpretation is pure human reasoning and speculation is seen in many ways throughout scripture, but here is one of those ways.
Its a fact, that there are some living upon the earth today Whom God is reserving to be punished : They are the unjust ! 113
Remember, in Rev 22 it reads let the unjust be unjust still
Rev 22:11
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
2 Pet 2:9
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
The unjust, are those whom Christ blood did not Justify, hence, they are being reserved by the power of God to be punished for their sins.
Now, what sense would it make, and how much of a contradiction it would be for God to be waiting and not willing for these who He is reserving to be punished, to be waiting for and desiring their repentance.
Many have used the scripture in 2 Pet 3:9 as a proof text that God wants all men without exception to come to repentance. That that interpretation is pure human reasoning and speculation is seen in many ways throughout scripture, but here is one of those ways.
Its a fact, that there are some living upon the earth today Whom God is reserving to be punished : They are the unjust ! 113
Remember, in Rev 22 it reads let the unjust be unjust still
Rev 22:11
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
2 Pet 2:9
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
The unjust, are those whom Christ blood did not Justify, hence, they are being reserved by the power of God to be punished for their sins.
Now, what sense would it make, and how much of a contradiction it would be for God to be waiting and not willing for these who He is reserving to be punished, to be waiting for and desiring their repentance.
2 Peter 3:9 was never intended to be a riddle for people to figure out; so that the real meaning of it is hidden in Calvinistic understanding.
Paul the apostle wrote,
2Co 3:12, Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
That passage does not need any fancy *interpretation*. Even children know what the words "any" and "all" mean. But since it totally demolishes TULIP, you have to make preposterous claims about interpretation and speculation. What is pure speculation is TULIP.
You are unlearned in this matter, I did explain it to you, but you wont listen !
Yes; and are you not aware that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God?
So then, all are unjust before they come to Christ; and therefore if the unjust cannot repent, no one can repent and no one can be saved.
God is not willing therefore that the unjust perish but that they should come to repentance.
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2 Peter 3:9 KJV
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Concerning this verse, there are some that miss a very important point. The Lord has a promise, in which he is not slack in. He is longsuffering. He wants all to come to repentance. That's true, but who is it for? The answer is "us-ward". That's not everyone. Peter addressed this letter to a specific audience: those of like, precious faith. (See the first two verses of the epistle).
"All" means all, UNLESS a condition is placed upon it. Peter clearly placed a condition on "all". If you have doubt about that read the full chapter and the previous one wher Peter is describing the punishment for ungodly men.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Concerning this verse, there are some that miss a very important point. The Lord has a promise, in which he is not slack in. He is longsuffering. He wants all to come to repentance. That's true, but who is it for? The answer is "us-ward". That's not everyone. Peter addressed this letter to a specific audience: those of like, precious faith. (See the first two verses of the epistle).
"All" means all, UNLESS a condition is placed upon it. Peter clearly placed a condition on "all". If you have doubt about that read the full chapter and the previous one wher Peter is describing the punishment for ungodly men.
So if I get up in church and say that "God died for all of us." You would conclude I only meant the people in the church?
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Yes. Why would I not? Eapecially if the preacher spent 2/3rds of the sermon railing on ungodly men who's damnation lingereth not.
Have you read the whole book? Seriously, because Peter spent the entire 2nd chapter railing on people and a good portion of the 3rd chapter doing the same. He even said they are going to be judged and damned.
Jesus's death is enough for all of mankind, but its for his own... Not everyone is going to be saved.
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