The new Pope has been selected

[BreadOfLife]

Im not on a "hook" little one, as im not deceived by the "cult of mary".
You're on THEIR hook.
And as i told you.. If Mary is taken out of the Catholic Cult, then it ends.
Its ends.
Now i will walk this back, as i posted 110 yrs, vs 110 AD......so, that is a typo.

Also,

It was between 100-110 AD, that one of your church "fathers", used the term "catholic" in a letter., and he was not referring to a cult that elevates Mary, to "MOG" and so forth, as that happened Later.
So, the "cult of Mary" that you serve, that has the Pope bowing before Plastic Mary Mannequin's that can be 200 Feet High......is not the same "church" that Ignatius was describing. As He was simply describing BELIEVERS in Yeshua.. vs (Crazy) LATER Catholic Doctrine that tries to get to Jesus through Mary.

Ummmm, first of all – you STILL haven’t given me a SINGLE SHRED of document evidence for your fictitious time frame of 143 AD for when the Catholic Church was established. The Church documents EVERYTHING as it pertains to its existence. Soooo, show me the document that promulgated the Church . . .

Now, this issue with "Relics" and "Dead Mary flying to heaven", and so much of "cult of mary" theology, is that its not found in any bible.
And the reason is.......that your "church" believes that the bible is an incomplete work in progress, and anything they decided later that they want to adopt as a new theory, or doctrine.....is EQUAL to the Bible, and that is the worst sin the "cult of Mary" keeps committing.

And the issue with Catholics like you, is that the Bible to you, will never be your final authority, and so, that is why you will believe anything and everything that your "church" decides is "our new doctrine".
So, this type of Blind Obedience to your particular church's teaching is the proof of "cult".

Ummmm, the BIBLE says that the Bible is not our ONLY Authority . . .

Matt 16: 19/Matt. 18: 18
I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. WHATEVER YOU BIND on earth shall be bound in heaven; and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

2 Thess 2:15
"Stand firm and hold fast to the Traditions you were taught, whether by an ORAL STATEMENT or by a LETTER from us."

Luke 10:16
Whoever LISTENS to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."

Hmmmm, go figure – the Church is also out Authority . . .

Be glad you are in '2025, as if you lived in the time of say........ Joan of Arc, or Calvin, they would have burned you, had you some significant disagreement with their "newest" and "latest" theology.
Now, they have it so dialed in, so deeply cultic....that most Catholics just bow to Mary and follow along like little blind puppies.......never questioning.

And yet...... This last Fake Pope........Francis, .... = Lots of Catholics were hoping He died sooner, as that one was devil owned and operated.
The new one, is going to have to reverse the "allow gays in the Priesthood" that Francis managed to get in, just before he died too late.

We'll See if Pope Leo follows suit, and if he does, then its going to be interesting to see if Catholics will sit there and just watch their cult turn into some "Woke" Transgendered Gay Rights Religious madness, that Francis was trying to create and unleash.

As for the Pope – God does His will with – or without good Popes. There have been rotten Popes in the past and yet Jesus’s promise that the “gates of Hell will not prevail” (Matt. 16:18) against His Church has stood the test of time.

As to Calvin and his cohorts – they did more damage to the Body of Christ than any bad Pope ever did. Their tragic legacy resonates to the tune of hundreds of millions of confused Christians and pseudo-Christians .

Finally- Francis never allowed for gays to become priests.
Your penchant for LYING us your undoing.

Exod. 20:16
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Good luck with that . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

You left something out.
You left out ...

= Transubstantiation is the doctrine that during the Eucharist (also known as Holy Communion or the Lord's Supper), the bread and wine actually transform into the body and blood of Jesus Christ. .

So, once again, this is not found in Scripture, becaue Jesus already defined that taking Communion as : do this "in remembrance of Me".......its not Actually me you are eating.

This is more "cult of mary' ....man made........ religiosity.

And someone is going to post......>>"but it says to eat my flesh and drink my blood". John 6.

Well Reader........if Jesus meant that literally then He would have asked for the plate and the cup and a knife, and Jesus would have cut off some of his body and put it on the plate, , and cut his flesh and let it bleed into the cup, and passed it all around.
Did He do this?
NO !
So, we see that this is all SYMBOLIC........exactly like Water Baptism.

Sooooo, YOU can believe that God merely SPOKE - and the entire universe leapt into existence – yet you CAN’T believe that He has the power to turn bread and wine into His Body and Blood??

He rose from the DEAD – but He us completely unable to perform this miracle?? What a pathetic lack of faith.

Unfortunately, you are as ignorant of languages as you are of Scripture and history.
Since when does “remembrance” only mean symbolic?

The Greek word for “remembrance” in 1 Cor. 11:24 is anamnesis, which indicates a sacrifice in the Old and New Testaments. In the Septuagint, we read where Moses tells the Israelites that their burnt offerings and peace offerings would serve as an anamnesis (“remembrance”) before God (Num. 10:10). Were they REAL offerings – or were they just “symbolic”? Those slaughtered bulls and sheep would disagree with you . . .

In 1 Cor. 11:29 Paul tells his readers that they are receiving Communion unworthily because they lacked faith as YOU do – thinking it is just a “symbol”:

1 Cor. 11:29 (KJV)
For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

Do your HOMEWORK . . .

 

[Behold]

Ummmm, first of all – you STILL haven’t given me a SINGLE SHRED of document evidence for your fictitious time frame of 143 AD for when the Catholic Church was established.

Actually i did explain this..

= The earliest known use of the term "Catholic Church" is attributed to Saint Ignatius of Antioch, who used the phrase "the Catholic Church" in his letter to the Smyrnaeans around 110 AD.

2 Thess 2:15
"Stand firm and hold fast to the Traditions you were taught, whether by an ORAL STATEMENT or by a LETTER from us."

The Apostles letters, that you are deceitfully using @BreadOfLife .....that are found as Paul's epistle, are not the "church fathers' oral Traditions.
In fact, very little Catholic Tradition can be traced to a BIBLE, which contains the Apostles letters.

No Apostle Letters.....refers to Peter as the Leader of the Body Of Christ.

No Apostles Letter, says that Mary is anything other then blessed among woman, and later had other children, and was nearby when Jesus was slain on The Cross.

No Apostles Letter says to collect Dead body Parts, (Catholic RELICS)... but the OT defines this mentally sick behavior as "unclean" and an abomination.

No Apostles Letter says that "mary is co-author of Salvation"

No Apostles Letter says to pray to a Saint or to Pray to Mary

No Apostles Letter says that Water has to be a part of Salvation, as there was no Water Present When Jesus was becoming Salvation as our sin bearer on The Cross.

The Church is. not "built on Peter".....>Its bulit on the Revelation that Peter spoke, which is that """ Jesus is the Son of God, the Messiah."""

So, i can list so much more "cult of mary" religious heresy........but, that'll do for now.

 

[Behold]

Sooooo, YOU can believe that God merely SPOKE - and the entire universe leapt into existence – yet you CAN’T believe that He has the power to turn bread and wine into His Body and Blood??

All things are possible with God, (except for sin), however that does not give the "cult of mary" theological licence to pretend that a wafer and some juice magically becomes the literal body of Christ.

But you can believe as you will, exaclty as you have been trained.. by the "cult of Mary".
We both can agree on that...

Since when does “remembrance” only mean symbolic?

When does the Last Supper prove that the body and blood are symbollically. just wine and bread?
its at the exact moment that Jesus didnt cut Himself to bleed in a Cup, nor cut a piece of His body off and have them eat it and drink it, as then, it would Literal.
Instead He compares what He is about to do on The Cross, = symbollically with THE wine and bread. And we are to remember what He accomplished on The Cross everytime we take The Communion, as a way to worship The Lord, "in Remembrane", not of the Last Supper meal, but of the Crucifixion that is God's Salvation.

In 1 Cor. 11:29 Paul tells his readers that they are receiving Communion unworthily because they lacked faith as YOU do – thinking it is just a “symbol”:

You didnt quote the verse, .. you left out......>"not discerning the Lord's body"...

So, when we take communion, we realize that Jesus's body slain,= is why we are always made worthy to take The Commumion, and when we dont understand this, we take it ,confused, feeling unworthy.....

That's what the verse means.

 

[JohnDB]

Huh....
New Pope is a lot more conservative than what the liberal Cardinals would like.


Who would have thunk that?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Actually i did explain this..

= The earliest known use of the term "Catholic Church" is attributed to Saint Ignatius of Antioch, who used the phrase "the Catholic Church" in his letter to the Smyrnaeans around 110 AD.

In post #80 - YOU stated the following:
"Catholicism" ...became a denomination about 110 yras after Jesus was back in Heaven.

33AD + 100 years = 143 AD.
Show me the document fromn 143AD that shows the promulgation of the Catholic Church.

The Apostles letters, that you are deceitfully using @BreadOfLife .....that are found as Paul's epistle, are not the "church fathers' oral Traditions.
In fact, very little Catholic Tradition can be traced to a BIBLE, which contains the Apostles letters.

No Apostle Letters.....refers to Peter as the Leader of the Body Of Christ.

WRONG.
If Peter wasn’t in charge – tell me WHY . . .

- Jesus singled out Peter when He gave him the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven (Matt. 16:18-19)
- Jesus asked Peter and Peter alone to feed His lambs and tend His sheep (John 21:15-19)
- Jesus said that He prayed for Peter ALONE to strengthen the others and bring them back to - faith (Luke 22:31-32)
- Peter called "Protos" (First) in the Gospel (Matt. 10:2)
- Peter's name occurs first in all lists of apostles (Matt. 10:2; Mk 3:16; Luke 6:14; Acts 1:13)
- Peter is specified by an angel as the leader and representative of the apostles (Mark 16:7)
- Peter takes the lead in calling for a successor for Judas (Acts 1:22)
- Peter is the first person to speak (and only one recorded) after Pentecost, making him the first - Christian to preach the Gospel in the Church (Acts 2:14-36)
- Peter works the first miracle of the Church Age, healing a lame man (Acts 3:6-12)
- Peter utters the first anathema (Ananias and Sapphira) affirmed by God (Acts 5:2-11)

The Church is. not "built on Peter".....>Its bulit on the Revelation that Peter spoke, which is that """ Jesus is the Son of God, the Messiah."""

WRONG again (Matt. 16:18) . . .

No Apostles Letter, says that Mary is anything other then blessed among woman, and later had other children, and was nearby when Jesus was slain on The Cross.

WRONG.
She is the “Woman” prophesied in Gen. 3:16, “whose seed with crush the head of the Serpent”.
Jesus acknowledges this by always referring to her as “Woman” (John 2:4, 19:26).

No Apostles Letter says to collect Dead body Parts, (Catholic RELICS)... but the OT defines this mentally sick behavior as "unclean" and an abomination.

Uhhh, not so fast . . .

After the prophet Elisha died, we read that:
2 Kings 13:20-21
“… while some Israelites were burying a man, suddenly they saw a band of raiders so they threw the man’s body into Elisha’s tomb. When the body touched Elisha’s bones, the man came to life and stood up on his feet.”

Umm, Sciptural proof of relics - go figure . . .

No Apostles Letter says that "mary is co-author of Salvation"

The Church doesn’t teach this either . . .

No Apostles Letter says to pray to a Saint or to Pray to Mary

NO Apostle’s Letter says that Scripture is our “Fial Authority”.
NO Apostle’s Letter says that we must “accept Jesus as personal Lord and Savior”.
NO Apostle’s Letter says that we must pray the “Sinne’s Prayer”.
NO Apostle's Letter says to abandon the Church when you disagree with it . . .

No Apostles Letter says that Water has to be a part of Salvation, as there was no Water Present When Jesus was becoming Salvation as our sin bearer on The Cross.

So, i can list so much more "cult of mary" religious heresy........but, that'll do for now.

WRONG.
Jesus Himself said that we must be baptized with water (John 3:5).

That’s more than good enough for me . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

All things are possible with God, (except for sin), however that does not give the "cult of mary" theological licence to pretend that a wafer and some juice magically becomes the literal body of Christ.

But you can believe as you will, exaclty as you have been trained.. by the "cult of Mary".
We both can agree on that...

You can keep spewing your idiotic “cult of Mary” mantra. But in the end - you simply lack faith . . .

When does the Last Supper prove that the body and blood are symbollically. just wine and bread?
its at the exact moment that Jesus didnt cut Himself to bleed in a Cup, nor cut a piece of His body off and have them eat it and drink it, as then, it would Literal.
Instead He compares what He is about to do on The Cross, = symbollically with THE wine and bread. And we are to remember what He accomplished on The Cross everytime we take The Communion, as a way to worship The Lord, "in Remembrane", not of the Last Supper meal, but of the Crucifixion that is God's Salvation.

Time for a Bible Lesson . . .

in John 6, where Jesus stated in NO uncertain terms:
John 6:51-56
“Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on thelast day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.”

The Greek word used here for “eat” is not phagon – the normal word for human eating. It is trogon – the way an animal rips apart and gnaws on his food. He is using hyperbole to make a point.

A few verses later – the people couldn’t believe what He was telling them and they grumbled (John 6:61).
How did Jesus respond? Did He say – “I was just speaking symbolically”?

NO - He said:
John 6:67
“Does this shock you?

Jesus was telling them that they could NOT understand what He was telling them because it had NOT been granted to them by the Father. This is why YOU don’t understand yet.
Did Jesus explain anything to them? NO – not until the Last Supper.. He simply asked them. “Does this shock you?”

Verse 66 tells us that most of them walked away from Him and returned to their former way of life. The first Protestants.

Does Jesus explain anything to the Twelve – as He ALWAYS did? NO.
He simply turns to them and says:
John 6:67
“Do you ALSO want to leave?”

Peter – not fully understanding yet – but fully TRUSTING in Christ speaks for them and replies:
John 6:68-49
“To whom shall we go? YOU have the words of everlasting life.”

You didnt quote the verse, .. you left out......>"not discerning the Lord's body"...

So, when we take communion, we realize that Jesus's body slain,= is why we are always made worthy to take The Commumion, and when we dont understand this, we take it ,confused, feeling unworthy.....

That's what the verse means.

Here is the verse in CONTEXT:

1 Cor. 11:28 -30
But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep (die).

It doesn’t take faith to know that Jesus was slain. It was a public execution.
It DOES take faith to understand what you are eating and drinking in the bread and the cup.

It IS His Body and Blood.
This IS my Body (Matt. 26:26)
This IS my Blood (Matt. 26:28)

Learn how to read the Bible in it’s proper CONTEXT . . .

 

[Scott Downey]

New pope world has pegged to stand for climate justice.

MSN

Religion of the world has nothing to offer mankind except eventual death

 

[Behold]

Religion of the world

"Religion of the world".. is the "broad way that leads to destruction = (Hell)".

 

[Origen]

No Apostle Letters.....refers to Peter as the Leader of the Body Of Christ.

It's written that Jesus said to the apostle Simon of Jonah, "[...] you are Peter ("Πέτρος", "a stone, or rock"), and on this rock ("πέτρᾳ") I will build My Church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will have been bound in Heaven; and whatever you release on earth will have been released in Heaven" (Matt. 16:18-19, PV3). And, from this moment, Peter was the Head, to whom obedience and respect are due as to another Jesus. And Jesus proclaimed him such before all of the other apostles.

 

[Behold]

It's written that Jesus said to the apostle Simon of Jonah, "[...] you are Peter ("Πέτρος", "a stone, or rock"), and on this rock (

Peter had the revelation that Jesus is the Messiah.

This revelation is also explained in the Bible as : "that Rock was Christ".

Christianity is not built on Peter.....>Its Built on The Cross of Christ., or as Jesus told you... "No person comes to the Father but through ME".

Not Peter and Not Mary.

 

[Dash RipRock]

It's written that Jesus said to the apostle Simon of Jonah, "[...] you are Peter ("Πέτρος", "a stone, or rock"), and on this rock ("πέτρᾳ") I will build My Church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will have been bound in Heaven; and whatever you release on earth will have been released in Heaven" (Matt. 16:18-19, PV3). And, from this moment, Peter was the head, to whom obedience and respect are due as to another Jesus. And Jesus proclaimed him such before all of the other apostles.

That's odd because in the Book of Acts (chapter 15) where the Apostles all got together for the big meeting, Peter did not preside over the meeting, John did as pastor over the church at Jerusalem.

Meaning the other Apostles never recognized Peter as being above the rest of them and no where in the Gospels do we see any of them speaking or acting like Peter was the top dog.

Matthew 16:15-18
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

What Jesus was discussing here was the fact that the Father had revealed to Peter that Jesus is the Christ which is revelation knowledge

Revelation knowledge from the Father is what the Lord built His Church upon and sadly catholics missed that boat as they add to and take away from God's Word proving they do not have revelation knowledge from the Father

It was the apostle Paul that called Peter a hypocrite to his face for falling back under the law or legalism (Galatians 2:11-16).

Peter and the other 11 apostles offered nothing to Paul (Galatians 2:6,9). Not because Paul was any better but because it was to him that the risen Lord Jesus Christ chose as the vessel to dispense these new revelations, to both Jew and Gentile. A gospel message that was kept hidden since before time began (Ephesians 3:1-11; Romans 16:25).

Peter being in charge is fantasy speculation on catholics part.

Peter was the head, to whom obedience and respect are due as to another Jesus. And Jesus proclaimed him such before all of the other apostles.

No, Jesus never told anybody that Peter was the top guy.

 

[Dash RipRock]

No Apostle Letters.....refers to Peter as the Leader of the Body Of Christ.

That's correct, nowhere in scripture or even in early extra biblical church writings do we see anybody claiming Peter was the top guy

 

[Scott Downey]

It's written that Jesus said to the apostle Simon of Jonah, "[...] you are Peter ("Πέτρος", "a stone, or rock"), and on this rock ("πέτρᾳ") I will build My Church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will have been bound in Heaven; and whatever you release on earth will have been released in Heaven" (Matt. 16:18-19, PV3). And, from this moment, Peter was the head, to whom obedience and respect are due as to another Jesus. And Jesus proclaimed him such before all of the other apostles.

Christ said he was the Rock, Paul said the same thing.
Peter failed Christ several times, Paul had to withstand Peter to his face as he was not honest about the gospel.

1 Samuel 2:2
“No one is holy like the Lord, For there is none besides You, Nor is there any rock like our God.

1 Corinthians 10:4
3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.

Matthew 7

I Never Knew You​

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Build on the Rock​

24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.

26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”

28 And so it was, when Jesus had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching, 29 for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

 

[Lizbeth]

Sooooo, YOU can believe that God merely SPOKE - and the entire universe leapt into existence – yet you CAN’T believe that He has the power to turn bread and wine into His Body and Blood??

He rose from the DEAD – but He us completely unable to perform this miracle?? What a pathetic lack of faith.

Unfortunately, you are as ignorant of languages as you are of Scripture and history.
Since when does “remembrance” only mean symbolic?

The Greek word for “remembrance” in 1 Cor. 11:24 is anamnesis, which indicates a sacrifice in the Old and New Testaments. In the Septuagint, we read where Moses tells the Israelites that their burnt offerings and peace offerings would serve as an anamnesis (“remembrance”) before God (Num. 10:10). Were they REAL offerings – or were they just “symbolic”? Those slaughtered bulls and sheep would disagree with you . . .

In 1 Cor. 11:29 Paul tells his readers that they are receiving Communion unworthily because they lacked faith as YOU do – thinking it is just a “symbol”:

1 Cor. 11:29 (KJV)
For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

Do your HOMEWORK . . .

He certainly COULD turn bread and wine into anything He wants....but He doesn't want us to literally eat His flesh and blood since that would be canibalism.....so understanding that came from the Lord is that He has ordained it to be by proxy. That means because He has ordained it so, He accepts the offering of the sacrifice of bread and wine every bit as much AS IF it were the body and blood of Christ. (This is why there is power in it.) And which is why we also are to discern the bread and wine to be the Lord's body/blood as if it were - to treat it as a holy thing, not common. We are to examine ourselves before partaking.....that we understand and remember why we need His sacrifice, and also to bring any sins that come to our awareness to the cross, to be cleansed afresh as it were.

 

[Dash RipRock]

He doesn't want us to literally eat His flesh and blood since that would be canibalism

and vampire ism which is the practice of drinking blood.

Catholics also believe they crucify Jesus all over again at every "mass"

 

[BreadOfLife]

He certainly COULD turn bread and wine into anything He wants....but He doesn't want us to literally eat His flesh and blood since that would be canibalism.....so understanding that came from the Lord is that He has ordained it to be by proxy. That means because He has ordained it so, He accepts the offering of the sacrifice of bread and wine every bit as much AS IF it were the body and blood of Christ. (This is why there is power in it.) And which is why we also are to discern the bread and wine to be the Lord's body/blood as if it were - to treat it as a holy thing, not common. We are to examine ourselves before partaking.....that we understand and remember why we need His sacrifice, and also to bring any sins that come to our awareness to the cross, to be cleansed afresh as it were.

No - if the Apostles yook a bite out of His arm - THAT would have been cannobalism
Jesus took care of that at the Last Supper - when He showed us how to receive Him Sacramentally.

Funny that you would accuse us of "cannibalism" The Early Christians were also accused of this same LIE for their belief in the Real Presence in the Eucharist . . .

Caecilius the Pagan: You Christians are the worst breed ever to affect the world. You deserve every punishment you can get! Nobody likes you. It would be better if you and your Jesus had never been born. We hear that you are all cannibals--you eat the flesh of your children in your sacred meetings. (Octanius Dialogue 197 AD).

“Now the story about the initiation of young novices is as much to be detested as it is well known. An infant covered over with meal, that it may deceive the unwary, is placed before him who is to be stained with their rites: this infant is slain by the young pupil, who has been urged on as if to harmless blows on the surface of the meal, with dark and secret wounds. Thirstily - O horror! they lick up its blood; eagerly they divide its limbs. By this victim they are pledged together; with this consciousness of wickedness they are covenanted to mutual silence.
(From Minucius Felix, Octavius, R. E. Wallis, trans. in The Ante-Nicene Fathers 197 AD)

 

[BreadOfLife]

and vampire ism which is the practice of drinking blood.

Catholics also believe they crucify Jesus all over again at every "mass"

Complete LIE.

Jesus's sacrifice at Calvary is RE-presented - not done all over again.

Boy - you guys really need to do your homework.
This is embarrassing . . .

 

[Origen]

Peter had the revelation that Jesus is the Messiah.

The reason it was revealed to Peter, not any of the other apostles, by the Father, that Jesus was the Christ and the Father's Son is because, from the first day he came with Jesus, he had been asking himself that question, and because he was simple and honest, he was able to understand and accept the reply that came to him from Heaven. Peter did not see supernatural manifestations as his brother Andrew, John and James of Zebedee did. He did not know Jesus's holiness as son, workman, citizen, as His brothers Judas and James of Alphaeus did. He did not receive any miracle neither did he see Jesus work any; He showed no sign of power to him as He did with Philip, Nathanael, Simon Cananean, Thomas and Judas, who saw them. He was not subdued by Jesus's will, as Levi (Matthew) the publican was. And yet he exclaimed: "He is the Christ!". He believed since the first moment he saw Jesus, and his faith was never shaken. That's why Jesus called him "כֵּיפָא" (Cephas), or "Πέτρος" (Petros), meaning "a stone, or rock" (Jn. 1:42). And that's why on that rock, Peter, Jesus said He would build His Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. Jesus gave Peter the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven and said that whatever he binds on earth, shall be bound also in Heaven. And whatever he loose on the earth shall be loosed also in Heaven. (Matt. 16:18-19, PV3)

 

[Origen]

Matthew 16:15-18
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

What Jesus was discussing here was the fact that the Father had revealed to Peter that Jesus is the Christ which is revelation knowledge

Revelation knowledge from the Father is what the Lord built His Church upon and sadly catholics missed that boat as they add to and take away from God's Word proving they do not have revelation knowledge from the Father

The reason it was revealed to Peter, not any of the other apostles, by the Father, that Jesus was the Christ and the Father's Son is because, from the first day he came with Jesus, he had been asking himself that question, and because he was simple and honest, he was able to understand and accept the reply that came to him from Heaven. Peter did not see supernatural manifestations as his brother Andrew, John and James of Zebedee did. He did not know Jesus's holiness as son, workman, citizen, as His brothers Judas and James of Alphaeus did. He did not receive any miracle neither did he see Jesus work any; He showed no sign of power to him as He did with Philip, Nathanael, Simon Cananean, Thomas and Judas, who saw them. He was not subdued by Jesus's will, as Levi (Matthew) the publican was. And yet he exclaimed: "He is the Christ!". He believed since the first moment he saw Jesus, and his faith was never shaken. That's why Jesus called him "כֵּיפָא" (Cephas), or "Πέτρος" (Petros), meaning "a stone, or rock" (Jn. 1:42). And that's why on that rock, Peter, Jesus said He would build His Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. Jesus gave Peter the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven and said that whatever he binds on earth, shall be bound also in Heaven. And whatever he loose on the earth shall be loosed also in Heaven. (Matt. 16:18-19, PV3)