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  1. verzanumi24

    verzanumi24 Advanced Member

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    The Roman Catholic Church claims to have started in Matthew 16:18 when Christ supposedly appointed Peter as the first Pope. However, the honest and objective student of the Scriptures and history soon discovers that the foundation of the Roman church is none other than the pagan mystery religion of ancient Babylon.

    While enduring the early persecutions of the Roman government (65-300 A.D.), most of professing Christianity went through a gradual departure from New Testament doctrine concerning church government, worship and practice. Local churches ceased to be autonomous by giving way to the control of "bishops" ruling over hierarchies. The simple form of worship from the heart was replaced with the rituals and splendor of paganism. Ministers became "priests," and pagans became "Christians" by simply being sprinkled with water. This tolerance of an unregenerate membership only made things worse. SPRINKLED PAGANISM is about the best definition for Roman Catholicism.

    The Roman Emperor Constantine established himself as the head of the church around 313 A.D., which made this new "Christianity" the official religion of the Roman Empire. The first actual Pope in Rome was probably Leo I (440-461 A.D.), although some claim that Gregory I was the first (590-604 A.D.). This ungodly system eventually ushered in the darkest period of history known to man, properly known as the "Dark Ages" (500-1500 A.D.). Through popes, bishops, and priests, Satan ruled Europe, and Biblical Christianity became illegal.

    Throughout all of this, however, there remained individual groups of true Christians, such as the Waldensens and the Anabaptists who would not conform to the Roman system.

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    The Plain Truth about the Roman Catholic Church
     
  2. Truth7t7

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    Yes Roman Emperor Is The Father Of The Existing Roman Catholic State Church, Constatine Built The Catholic Church Seat St. Peter' Basilica In 325AD, now known as Vatican City.

    Constatine invited 1800 Bishops to the 325AD council of Nicea, All expenses paid, only 300 showed up. This fact alone let's you see the "True Christian Church" existed outside the council of Nicea and Constatines State Church "Headquarters" in the St. Peter's Basilica In Rome.

    Wikipedia: St. Peter' Basilica
    The area now covered by the Vatican City had been a cemetery for some years before the Circus of Nero was built. It was a burial ground for the numerous executions in the Circus and contained many Christian burials

    Old St. Peter's Basilica was the 4th-century church begun by the Emperor Constantine the Great between 319 and 333 AD.[27] It was of typical basilical form, a wide nave and two aisles on each side and an apsidal end, with the addition of a transept or bema, giving the building the shape of a tau cross. It was over 103.6 metres (340 ft) long, and the entrance was preceded by a large colonnaded atrium
     
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  3. verzanumi24

    verzanumi24 Advanced Member

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    That church is called the mother of harlots.
     
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    I disagree that Rome is the Harlot seen in Revelation chapters 17-18, Jerusalem is the Harlot, Mystery Babylon the Great.
     
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    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the Bible bears this out. Rome may have been a lot of things, but Jerusalem gets that particular title.
     
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  6. verzanumi24

    verzanumi24 Advanced Member

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    Not even close, but far from it.
     
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    could easily and rightly be so for she was not a harlot but the mother of Protestant churches imhp - twinc
     
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    Jerusalem never ruled over the kings of the earth, so there goes your theory.

    With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication...And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. (Rev 17:2,18).

    Also, Jerusalem is likened to Sodom and Egypt, not to Babylon.
    And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (Rev 11:8)
     
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    Jerusalem Is Mystery Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots!

    Jerusalem Is Guilty Of All The Earths Blood, And That Of The Prophets, As Rev 18:24 States, Rome Didn't Exist To Be Guilty Of The Prophets Blood

    Revelation 18:24King James Version (KJV)
    24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

    Matthew 23:30-37King James Version (KJV)
    30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
    31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
    32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
    33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
    34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
    35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
    36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
    37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

    Jerusalem Is The "Great City" Where The Lord Was Crucified

    Revelation 11:8KJV
    And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

    Revelation 14:8KJV
    And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.


    Revelation 17:18KJV
    18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.


    Revelation 18:10KJV
    Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.


    Ezekiel 16:15-16King James Version (KJV)
    15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.
    16 And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.

    Jerusalem Is Built Upon Seven Hills/Mountains, Just As Rome


    Revelation 17:9King James Version (KJV)
    9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.



    The Seven Hills Of Jerusalem, By Ernest L. Martin, Ph.D.

    the City of Jerusalem as it existed in the time of Christ Jesus was also reckoned to be the "City of Seven Hills." This fact was well recognized in Jewish circles. In the Pirke de-Rabbi Eliezer, an 8th century midrashic narrative (section 10), the writer mentioned without commentary (showing that the understanding was well known and required no defense) that "Jerusalem is situated on seven hills"(recorded in The Book of Legends, edited by Bialik and Ravnitzky, p. 371, paragraph 111). And, so it was. Those "seven hills" are easy to identify.

    If one starts with the Mount of Olives just to the east of the main City of Jerusalem (but still reckoned to be located within the environs of Jerusalem), there are three summits to that Mount of Olives:The northern summit (hill) is called Scopus [Hill One],
    The middle summit (hill) was called Nob [Hill Two],
    The highest point of Olivet itself, and the southern summit (hill) was called in the Holy Scriptures the "Mount of Corruption" or "Mount of Offence" [Hill Three] (II Kings 23:13).
    On the middle ridge between the Kedron and the Tyropoeon Valleys there was (formerly) in the south "Mount Zion" [Hill Four] (the original "Mount Zion" and not the later southwest hill that was later called by that name),
    The "Ophel Mount" [Hill Five],
    To the north of that the "Rock" around which "Fort Antonia" was built [Hill Six],
    And finally, there was the southwest hill itself [Hill Seven] that finally became known in the time of Simon the Hasmonean as the new "Mount Zion."

    Wikipedia: Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade

    The Jerusalem gay pride parade is an annual pride parade taking place in Jerusalem. Since the first March for Pride and Tolerance in 2002, Jerusalem Pride—"Love Without Border"—has become an established event in Jerusalem, each year bringing in additional partners and supporters.

    Since the 1990s an annual gay pride parade takes place in Tel Aviv, Israel and sometimes also in Eilat. Tel Aviv had previously been the venue for the only yearly gay pride parade in the Middle East.[citation needed] Tel Aviv was first city in Israel to have a gay pride parade, which started in the street of Shenkin and expanded to large-scale events in the following years. In 2005, 100,000 people participated in the Tel Aviv gay pride parade.

    Jerusalem Is Mystery Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots Revelation Chapters 17-18

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  10. verzanumi24

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    Like I said, not even close.
     
  11. Willie T

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    Anyone here know what constitutes "adultery?" (Think about it.)
     
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    The catholic church has been influencing many Nations and kings, and have been responsible for the deaths of many of the saints under the Roman empire.
     
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    The future "Antichrist" will be a Jew, and he through Satan will rule the Kings of the earth from Jerusalem, through deception in devils and false miracles, Revelation 16:12-14KJV

    Daniel 11:37, the "Antichrist" will not regard/worship "The God Of His Fathers" his fathers were Hebrew, they worshipped the true God, capital "G" Diety.

    Daniel 11:37KJV
    Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

    2 Chronicles 33:12KJV
    And when he was in affliction, he besought the Lord his God, and humbled himself greatly before the God of his fathers,

    Acts 3:13KJV
    The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the
    God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

    The Jewish/Hebrew Antichrist, Will Rule The Kings Of The Earth From Jerusalem, By Devils And False Miracles.

    Revelation 16:12-14KJV
    12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
    13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
    14 For
    they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
     
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    LOL The Jewish people will be slaves of the Beast/the resurrection of the Roman empire, and will along with the Israelite have to be rescued a second time just like their ancestors were when they were slaves in Egypt.
     
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    The Church catholic started on the day of Pentecost.
    Seeing as how you couldnt even get your first statement right, its safe to assume the rest of your drivel is equally in error...

    I suggest you study a little history and the writings of the early church fathers...

    Then perhaps you would be less ignorant in your posts..

    Here's a sample from Ignatius of Antioch :
    I have no delight in corruptible food, nor in the pleasures of this life. I desire the bread of God, the heavenly bread, the bread of life, which is the flesh of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who became afterwards of the seed of David and Abraham; and I desire the drink of God, namely His blood, which is incorruptible love and eternal life.
     
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    LOL That's like saying satan started Jesus' Church.
     
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    You think the Holy Spirit is Satan?

    Wow.... Just wow...
     
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    I didn't say that. I'm talking about the catholic church being founded by satan, but claiming to be Jesus' Church.
     
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    so you are saying where Peter is there is the church - get thou behind me satan - twinc
     
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    Where did Peter get into this? I'm talking about the catholic church, founded by satan to deceived those who are spiritually blind. That same church that is plague with pedophile priest. Everytime one turn around there's a news report of them sexually abusing a child.
     
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