The Revelation 11, Revelation 13, and Luke 17 Connection: Why the Pretrib Timeline Chronologically Collapses

[Davidpt]

The following is my reasoning of things over all. Except I let an AI format things for me plus rewrite my thoughts in a manner easy to follow, regardless that you might not agree with some of these conclusions or any of them. But at least you can't complain that you couldn't follow what is being proposed and meant throughout. Will have to do the OP in two posts.
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Part 1:

It is fascinating to watch Pretribulationists completely bypass direct scripture when their timeline is backed into a corner. When presented with the undeniable textual evidence of Revelation 11 and 13, the standard response is to run away from the text, launch a diversion tactic, and throw out a "one-liner" about the "Days of Noah" or claim "that's just for the Jews."
Let’s slow down, look at the actual reasoning, and walk through the scriptures in the exact order they are written. When you harmonize Revelation 11, Revelation 13, Matthew 24, and Luke 17, the Pretrib timeline completely collapses under its own logical contradictions.

1. The Reality of "Peace and Safety" During the Tribulation

Pretribulationists vehemently claim that 1 Thessalonians 5:3 ("When they say, 'Peace and safety!' then sudden destruction comes upon them") must describe a normal, prosperous world before the 7-year tribulation begins. They argue that the Tribulation is a period of non-stop, total global chaos that would make a mindset of "peace and safety" impossible.

But the text of Revelation completely obliterates this assumption. Look at Revelation 11:8–10:

The Two Witnesses are killed by the Beast. The text explicitly states: "And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth."

Consider the mechanics of this passage:

• The Global Euphoria: The wicked world is experiencing a global, synchronized celebration. Why? Because the tormenting plagues brought by God's prophets have stopped. The global population feels a profound sense of relief, security, and triumph. They are literally experiencing a state of "peace and safety."

• The Economic Infrastructure: If the planet had already been utterly obliterated by God's total, final wrath during the early seals and trumpets, how is the global population still operating an economy stable enough to ship gifts to one another worldwide?

• The Pretrib Dilemma: Pretribulationists place the death of the Two Witnesses right at the midpoint of the 7 years—long after their supposed rapture. Therefore, by their own timeline, a global state of "peace and safety" and merry-making occurs inside the Tribulation.

• The Sudden Destruction: Immediately after this global celebration (v. 11-19), the Two Witnesses are resurrected, a massive earthquake strikes, the 7th Trumpet sounds, and the final, catastrophic Bowl judgments of God’s actual wrath begin. This is the exact definition of "then sudden destruction comes upon them" from 1 Thessalonians 5:3.

2. The Fallacy of the "Days of Noah" Argument

When cornered on this, Pretribulationists will pivot to Matthew 24 or Luke 17 and say, "But Jesus said before the flood there is normal life, marriage, commerce, and everyday life... therefore His coming must be Pretrib!"

This argument completely backfires for two reasons:

First, Jesus explicitly establishes the chronology in Matthew 24:29-37. In verse 29, He says: "Immediately after the tribulation of those days..." Then, in verse 30, He says the sign of the Son of Man will appear. Only after stating this does He say in verse 37: "But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be." Jesus does not place the days of Noah before the tribulation; He places the comparison after it.

Second, this "normal life" perfectly matches the Revelation 13 economic system. The world worshiping the Beast is buying, selling, eating, drinking, and building an empire (Rev 13:17).

For the wicked, life continues in its ungodly normalcy right up until the day the final wrath hits them, just like in the days of Noah and Lot. They are saying "peace and safety" in their wicked normalcy, completely blind to the fact that sudden destruction is coming right after the tribulation ends.

 

[Davidpt]

The OP continued--Part 2:

3. The Luke 17 Puzzle and the "Bookend" Reality

Many people struggle to interpret Luke 17 coherently because it appears to scramble the timeline. In Matthew 24, the "housetop" escape warning is at the beginning of the Great Tribulation (Matt 24:15-18), but the "flood" and "taken/left" language are placed after the Tribulation (Matt 24:37-41). Yet in Luke 17, Jesus weaves them tightly together.

How do we reconcile this? By understanding that the "revealing" of the Son of Man is a prophetic 42-month era, not a split-second flash.

The moment the Abomination of Desolation occurs at the beginning of great tribulation, Christ's final prophetic timeline is openly unmasked and revealed to the world.

In Luke 17, Jesus uses the transition from "day" (v. 31) to "night" (v. 34) to describe the two opposite bookends of this 42-month crisis era:

• The Beginning of the Day (The Housetop Emergency, v. 31): The 42-month era kicks off. The Beast takes power, and believers must immediately flee to the mountains and abandon their worldly goods in order to not be a victim of the coming falling away. But not flleing to literal mountains, though. But fleeing in order to avoid spiritual apostacy.


• The End of the Night (The Final Separation, v. 34-36): The 42-month era closes. At the very end of this dark period—which Matthew 24 tells us is after the tribulation—the final, sudden separation occurs. The flood of God's wrath hits, and the wicked are swept away.

4. Shutting Down the "Jews-Only" Escape Hatch

When a Pretribulationist realizes this bookend concept makes sense, they will try to use their ultimate wildcard escape hatch: "That housetop warning is only for the Jews left behind after the rapture! It has nothing to do with the Church!"

If you say that, your entire timeline completely implodes upon itself. Look at the trap you just walked into:

1. Pretribulationists loudly claim that "one taken, the other left" in the bed and the field (Luke 17:34-36) is the Rapture of the Church.

2. However, Jesus explicitly states that this "taken/left" separation happens "in that day" when the housetop emergency is occurring (Luke 17:31).

3. Therefore, if you claim the housetop flight is only for "left-behind Jews" after the Church is already gone, then the "taken/left" events in the very next verses cannot be the Pretrib Rapture. You cannot rapture the Church out of the bed and the field if the Church has already been gone for 3.5 years!

By your own logic, if the housetop warning applies to tribulation-period people, then the people being "taken" from the bed and the field must also be those same tribulation-period people. You completely lose your favorite Rapture proof-text.

Furthermore, where does Jesus ever say in Matthew 24 or Luke 17, "This part is for the Church, but that part is only for the Jews"? He doesn't. He is speaking directly to His Apostles—the very men who became the foundational pillars of the Christian Church (Ephesians 2:20). When Jesus says "When ye shall see..." He is talking to the Church.

The ultimate destination of the "left" in Luke 17:37 proves it is Posttrib judgment. When the disciples ask "Where, Lord?", Jesus replies: "Wherever the body is, there the eagles [vultures] will be gathered together." This is the exact imagery of Revelation 19:17-18 at the battle of Armageddon—after the tribulation—where the birds of prey feed on the corpses of the wicked. Keeping in mind, as of Revelation 19:17-18, there is not a single saint still on earth. They are all up in the sky with Jesus because they were taken in the Posttrib rapture, and the ones still on the earth below are the ones left.

Conclusion

The text is seamless. The Great Tribulation is an era of human and Satanic persecution against the saints, while the wicked world enjoys a deceptive state of economic "peace and safety," buying, selling, and celebrating under the Beast's system.

But immediately after that tribulation, the prophetic bookend closes. Christ returns, the saints are gathered, and "sudden destruction" sweeps the oblivious, wicked world away to judgment—just like the days of Noah, and just like the days of Lot.

You don't have to convince yourself that Jesus was mistaken. You just have to read the text exactly how He said it.

 

[Truth7t7]

The OP continued--Part 2:

3. The Luke 17 Puzzle and the "Bookend" Reality

Many people struggle to interpret Luke 17 coherently because it appears to scramble the timeline. In Matthew 24, the "housetop" escape warning is at the beginning of the Great Tribulation (Matt 24:15-18), but the "flood" and "taken/left" language are placed after the Tribulation (Matt 24:37-41). Yet in Luke 17, Jesus weaves them tightly together.

How do we reconcile this? By understanding that the "revealing" of the Son of Man is a prophetic 42-month era, not a split-second flash.

The moment the Abomination of Desolation occurs at the beginning of great tribulation, Christ's final prophetic timeline is openly unmasked and revealed to the world.

In Luke 17, Jesus uses the transition from "day" (v. 31) to "night" (v. 34) to describe the two opposite bookends of this 42-month crisis era:

• The Beginning of the Day (The Housetop Emergency, v. 31): The 42-month era kicks off. The Beast takes power, and believers must immediately flee to the mountains and abandon their worldly goods in order to not be a victim of the coming falling away. But not flleing to literal mountains, though. But fleeing in order to avoid spiritual apostacy.


• The End of the Night (The Final Separation, v. 34-36): The 42-month era closes. At the very end of this dark period—which Matthew 24 tells us is after the tribulation—the final, sudden separation occurs. The flood of God's wrath hits, and the wicked are swept away.

4. Shutting Down the "Jews-Only" Escape Hatch

When a Pretribulationist realizes this bookend concept makes sense, they will try to use their ultimate wildcard escape hatch: "That housetop warning is only for the Jews left behind after the rapture! It has nothing to do with the Church!"

If you say that, your entire timeline completely implodes upon itself. Look at the trap you just walked into:

1. Pretribulationists loudly claim that "one taken, the other left" in the bed and the field (Luke 17:34-36) is the Rapture of the Church.

2. However, Jesus explicitly states that this "taken/left" separation happens "in that day" when the housetop emergency is occurring (Luke 17:31).

3. Therefore, if you claim the housetop flight is only for "left-behind Jews" after the Church is already gone, then the "taken/left" events in the very next verses cannot be the Pretrib Rapture. You cannot rapture the Church out of the bed and the field if the Church has already been gone for 3.5 years!

By your own logic, if the housetop warning applies to tribulation-period people, then the people being "taken" from the bed and the field must also be those same tribulation-period people. You completely lose your favorite Rapture proof-text.

Furthermore, where does Jesus ever say in Matthew 24 or Luke 17, "This part is for the Church, but that part is only for the Jews"? He doesn't. He is speaking directly to His Apostles—the very men who became the foundational pillars of the Christian Church (Ephesians 2:20). When Jesus says "When ye shall see..." He is talking to the Church.

The ultimate destination of the "left" in Luke 17:37 proves it is Posttrib judgment. When the disciples ask "Where, Lord?", Jesus replies: "Wherever the body is, there the eagles [vultures] will be gathered together." This is the exact imagery of Revelation 19:17-18 at the battle of Armageddon—after the tribulation—where the birds of prey feed on the corpses of the wicked. Keeping in mind, as of Revelation 19:17-18, there is not a single saint still on earth. They are all up in the sky with Jesus because they were taken in the Posttrib rapture, and the ones still on the earth below are the ones left.

Conclusion

The text is seamless. The Great Tribulation is an era of human and Satanic persecution against the saints, while the wicked world enjoys a deceptive state of economic "peace and safety," buying, selling, and celebrating under the Beast's system.

But immediately after that tribulation, the prophetic bookend closes. Christ returns, the saints are gathered, and "sudden destruction" sweeps the oblivious, wicked world away to judgment—just like the days of Noah, and just like the days of Lot.

You don't have to convince yourself that Jesus was mistaken. You just have to read the text exactly how He said it.

The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End​

The book of Revelation is seen in "Parallel" teachings of same events, not "Chronological" as dispensationalism falsely teaches

Example: Revelation 11:18 Is The One And Only Final Judgement, A Parallel Teaching Of Revelation 20:11-15 in Final Judgement

"Fact" The Scripture Below Teaches (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) Are On This Earth Together To See The "Last Day" Where The 7th Angel Sounds (The End) In Final Judgement

You clearly see in Revelation 13:5 that (The Beast) is given 42 months/3.5 years

Revelation 13:5KJV
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

You clearly see in Revelation 11:3 that the (Two Witnesses) are given 1260 days/3.5 years

Revelation 11:3KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

You see (The Beast) killing the (Two Witnesses) upon this earth Rev 11:7, both were given 3.5 years of power, you see the (Two Witnesses) laying dead in Jerusalem for 3.5 days in the street as the world celebrates, you see the (Two Witnesses) raised to heaven as the 2nd woe in the Great earthquake takes place, the 3rd woe comes quickly in the 7th angel sounding (The End) Revelation 11:18 the final judgment (The End)

Conclusion: (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) are present upon earth in power for the exact same time of 3.5 years in "Parallel" and this time ends in the 7th angel sounding in the second coming final judgment (The End)

Revelation 11:7-18KJV
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

[Truth7t7]

The following is my reasoning of things over all. Except I let an AI format things for me plus rewrite my thoughts in a manner easy to follow, regardless that you might not agree with some of these conclusions or any of them. But at least you can't complain that you couldn't follow what is being proposed and meant throughout. Will have to do the OP in two posts.
-----------------------

Part 1:

It is fascinating to watch Pretribulationists completely bypass direct scripture when their timeline is backed into a corner. When presented with the undeniable textual evidence of Revelation 11 and 13, the standard response is to run away from the text, launch a diversion tactic, and throw out a "one-liner" about the "Days of Noah" or claim "that's just for the Jews."
Let’s slow down, look at the actual reasoning, and walk through the scriptures in the exact order they are written. When you harmonize Revelation 11, Revelation 13, Matthew 24, and Luke 17, the Pretrib timeline completely collapses under its own logical contradictions.

1. The Reality of "Peace and Safety" During the Tribulation

Pretribulationists vehemently claim that 1 Thessalonians 5:3 ("When they say, 'Peace and safety!' then sudden destruction comes upon them") must describe a normal, prosperous world before the 7-year tribulation begins. They argue that the Tribulation is a period of non-stop, total global chaos that would make a mindset of "peace and safety" impossible.

But the text of Revelation completely obliterates this assumption. Look at Revelation 11:8–10:

The Two Witnesses are killed by the Beast. The text explicitly states: "And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth."

Consider the mechanics of this passage:

• The Global Euphoria: The wicked world is experiencing a global, synchronized celebration. Why? Because the tormenting plagues brought by God's prophets have stopped. The global population feels a profound sense of relief, security, and triumph. They are literally experiencing a state of "peace and safety."

• The Economic Infrastructure: If the planet had already been utterly obliterated by God's total, final wrath during the early seals and trumpets, how is the global population still operating an economy stable enough to ship gifts to one another worldwide?

• The Pretrib Dilemma: Pretribulationists place the death of the Two Witnesses right at the midpoint of the 7 years—long after their supposed rapture. Therefore, by their own timeline, a global state of "peace and safety" and merry-making occurs inside the Tribulation.

• The Sudden Destruction: Immediately after this global celebration (v. 11-19), the Two Witnesses are resurrected, a massive earthquake strikes, the 7th Trumpet sounds, and the final, catastrophic Bowl judgments of God’s actual wrath begin. This is the exact definition of "then sudden destruction comes upon them" from 1 Thessalonians 5:3.

2. The Fallacy of the "Days of Noah" Argument

When cornered on this, Pretribulationists will pivot to Matthew 24 or Luke 17 and say, "But Jesus said before the flood there is normal life, marriage, commerce, and everyday life... therefore His coming must be Pretrib!"

This argument completely backfires for two reasons:

First, Jesus explicitly establishes the chronology in Matthew 24:29-37. In verse 29, He says: "Immediately after the tribulation of those days..." Then, in verse 30, He says the sign of the Son of Man will appear. Only after stating this does He say in verse 37: "But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be." Jesus does not place the days of Noah before the tribulation; He places the comparison after it.

Second, this "normal life" perfectly matches the Revelation 13 economic system. The world worshiping the Beast is buying, selling, eating, drinking, and building an empire (Rev 13:17).

For the wicked, life continues in its ungodly normalcy right up until the day the final wrath hits them, just like in the days of Noah and Lot. They are saying "peace and safety" in their wicked normalcy, completely blind to the fact that sudden destruction is coming right after the tribulation ends.

God's "Two Witnesses" Rule The World During The Future Great Tribulation​

Many put the future (Man Of Sin) (The Beast) as the ruler of earth during the 3.5 year tribulation "wrong"!

It will be God's (Two Witnesses) that rule in bringing all plagues in torturing the evil world, a literal remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt, God's in control!

Revelation 11:3-6 & 10KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

The Future (Two Witnesses) "All Plagues" As Often As They Will Representing "God"

Revelation 16:1-11KJV
1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

 

[Douggg]

The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End

There is overlap of the two witnesses' 1260 day first half and when the Antichrist become beast near the end of that 1260 days.

The great tribulation will 1335 days long, beginning when the AoD is setup on day 1185.

 

[Truth7t7]

There is overlap of the two witnesses' 1260 day first half and when the Antichrist become beast near the end of that 1260 days.

The great tribulation will 1335 days long, beginning when the AoD is setup on day 1185.

The great tribulation will be 3.5 years long, and the (Two Witnesses) and (The Beast) will be on this earth during this very same time frame of 3.5 years

 

[Douggg]

The great tribulation will be 3.5 years long, and the (Two Witnesses) and (The Beast) will be on this earth during this very same time frame of 3.5 years

What text are you basing that the great tribulation is 3.5 years long ?

The great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation is set up. The abomination of desolation set up is in Daniel 12:11-12.

 

[Truth7t7]

What text are you basing that the great tribulation is 3.5 years long ?

The great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation is set up. The abomination of desolation set up is in Daniel 12:11-12.

Read It Real Slowwwww This Time

The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End​

The book of Revelation is seen in "Parallel" teachings of same events, not "Chronological" as dispensationalism falsely teaches

Example: Revelation 11:18 Is The One And Only Final Judgement, A Parallel Teaching Of Revelation 20:11-15 in Final Judgement

"Fact" The Scripture Below Teaches (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) Are On This Earth Together To See The "Last Day" Where The 7th Angel Sounds (The End) In Final Judgement

You clearly see in Revelation 13:5 that (The Beast) is given 42 months/3.5 years

Revelation 13:5KJV
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

You clearly see in Revelation 11:3 that the (Two Witnesses) are given 1260 days/3.5 years

Revelation 11:3KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

You see (The Beast) killing the (Two Witnesses) upon this earth Rev 11:7, both were given 3.5 years of power, you see the (Two Witnesses) laying dead in Jerusalem for 3.5 days in the street as the world celebrates, you see the (Two Witnesses) raised to heaven as the 2nd woe in the Great earthquake takes place, the 3rd woe comes quickly in the 7th angel sounding (The End) Revelation 11:18 the final judgment (The End)

Conclusion: (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) are present upon earth in power for the exact same time of 3.5 years in "Parallel" and this time ends in the 7th angel sounding in the second coming final judgment (The End)

Revelation 11:7-18KJV
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

[Douggg]

The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End​

None of the text you quoted says that the great tribulation will be 3.5 years long.

Jesus in Matthew 24:15-21 referred to the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet as being when the great tribulation begins. So go to Daniel 12:11-12.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

1290 days and 1335 days are involved. Which are more than 3.5 years (1260 days).

 

[Douggg]

You see (The Beast) killing the (Two Witnesses) upon this earth Rev 11:7, both were given 3.5 years of power, you see the (Two Witnesses) laying dead in Jerusalem for 3.5 days in the street as the world celebrates, you see the (Two Witnesses) raised to heaven as the 2nd woe in the Great earthquake takes place, the 3rd woe comes quickly in the 7th angel sounding (The End) Revelation 11:18 the final judgment (The End)

The beast kills the two witnesses, who three and a half days later come back to life and depart this earth.

Leaving the beast 42 months to rule without being inhibited by the two witnesses.

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Regarding the woes, the great earthquake that follows the two witnesses departure is not the second woe. The earthquake will be local to Jerusalem, not worldwide. Revelation 11:13.

The three woes to the inhabiters of the earth will be...

1. first woe - the flesh tormenting locust creatures.
2. second woe - a third of mankind killed by a 200, 000, 000 size army.
3. third woe - Satan cast down to earth having great wrath. To last a time, times, half time.

 

[Douggg]

@Truth7t7

I made this diagram to help understand the flow of the text. Revelation 9 reveals the first two woes to the inhabiters of the earth (of the fifth and sixth angels sounding their trumpets).

The third woe to the inhabiters of the earth is identified when the seventh angel sounds his trumpet