Okay, thanks for your response. Now I know where we stand on (Romans 10:9). You believe Jesus was dead then raise himself in the same body... even though Mary Magdalene thought he was a gardener. Am I on point? Or would like to add to what was said?
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Okay, thanks for your response. Now I know where we stand on (Romans 10:9). You believe Jesus was dead then raise himself in the same body... even though Mary Magdalene thought he was a gardener. Am I on point? Or would like to add to what was said?
The Dead are Dead. It's the opposite of Life. That's why there is a Resurrection....
Acts 24:15
And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.
Like I said . . . I believe Jesus, and He was clear about it.
And people haven't stopped misunderstanding Who Jesus Is.
Much love!
Yes, you are exactly correct, the dead are dead.
There are even different kinds of death. But it does sound to me that you are thinking dead mean you stop existing or something like that. Is that fair to say?
Much love!
What do you think about this scripture? Do you believe it?
During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. (Hebrews 5:7)
Do you see how it conflicts about Jesus being Dead is not Dead. Rather, he depended on some else. His God and Father....
". . . I have the power to lay it down, and the power to take it back up again . . ."
So the question is, do you believe His words?
Much love!
Again, there is no conflict. The Bible teaches that Jesus raised Himself, that the Holy Spirit raised Him, and the Father raised Him. You are the one who cannot seem to read each of those without changing the meaning of what God said.
I recognize God Who Is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and God raised Jesus from the dead. I don't have to change a single word.
Much love!
Yes, we are in agreement. Just one more scripture and we can visit another time. Do see how this scripture is in line with (Romans 10:9) ??
Acts 13:37
On the other hand, the one whom God raised up did not see corruption.
Then why do you not believe Jesus raised Himself from the dead, a physical bodily resurrection? If you believe Him, why do you not believe that?
I've gotta run, back tomorrow.
Much love!
Because of the following scriptures. Who was Jesus Loyal too??
Acts 13:35
So it also says in another psalm: ‘You will not allow your loyal one to see corruption.’
Acts 2:27
because you will not leave me in the Grave, nor will you allow your loyal one to see corruption.
Acts 2:31
he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that neither was he forsaken in the Grave nor did his flesh see corruption.
Acts 13:36
David, on the one hand, rendered service to God in his own generation, fell asleep in death, was laid with his forefathers, and did see corruption.
He’s not just a spirit - just like we have a spirit, soul and body, so does Jesus.
His divine spirit existed eternally, before He incarnated into a body - that’s why at the crucifixion, Jesus didn’t die, His body died.
You may recall Jesus gave His spirit to the Father as His body died.
Did Jesus lie? He said a spirit has not flesh and bone, as they saw He did then ate fish to prove it
He’s a divine spirit that lives in a body - both are true.
Maranatha
He never died, He just left His flesh for 3 days and then He came back to get it .Something He didn't have to do by the way.
Does not scripture tell us where He was for those 3 days
And so these tell you to disbelieve Jesus? You are just circling back to the same thing.
Jesus raised Himself for the dead. He said He would. He said He was able. I believe Him. You do not. You cite these other passages as reason to disbelieve Jesus. To me this indicates you either don't understand the true meaning, or are not ready to accept the significance of these things.
But what kind of interpretation is it to select out of your own reason some passages to discount what they say?
In rejecting the Trinity, this forces you to reject plainly stated Scripture.
Much love!
There is no other conclusion. And there are many things in the Bible like that.
Much love!
Davy
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Based on what Apostle Paul taught there in 1 Cor.15, it shows that our Lord Jesus' flesh body was transfigured to the heavenly type body. It can still have the marks of His crucifixion, but it's no longer a flesh type body, but one of Spirit. This is why the Psalms prophesied that Christ's flesh body would not see corruption, i.e., rot in a grave.
Also, when angels appear on this earth, there's nothing written in God's Word that says they have to somehow take on a flesh body. That idea that they need flesh comes from carnal minds who don't understand about that other dimension of the heavenly.
You’re claim continues to ignore that Jesus SPECIFICALLY said, He is NOT a ghostly figure with no body, BUT HAS A BODY OF “FLESH AND BONE”.
You cannot get around that, no matter how hard you try, nor the fact Jesus said His body, the one He died in, would be restored in three days.
Maranatha
Robert Gwin
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Brother Russell legally registered the Watchtower Bible and Tract society sir. Jehovah had witnesses before He created people Rev 1:5;3:14
The WTS goes so far as to say you’ll go into darkness if you study the scriptures without their commentary telling you how they must be interpreted.
That’s a huge warning sign, all by itself.
Maranatha
Did you know the WTS acquired the rights to reprint the KJV Bible and distributed millions of them? Matter of fact you can see serval translations that we use today. Hopefully you will Accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior as I did.
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