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Reader,

Regarding Faith in Christ...

1.) If the focus of your Trust is not in Christ, then your Faith is not in Christ, your faith is in vain, and you're not a Chrisitan, while you believe you are going to heaven.

Now, it can be that you are just a deceived Believer..........."fallen from Grace"... and in that Case, your faith is broken, but your Salvation isn't.

Listen, Salvation is "the simplicity that is IN Christ".

2.) = For you to gain heaven, you have to be reconcilled to God, by literally becoming "IN" Christ.
You have to become ETERNALLY "IN" Him.........and you cant do that of yourself.......so, OUT Go all your vain and useless attempts to try to be saved or stay saved.

God requires that you become "IN" Christ.........In Him, which gains for you the KOG, because you are now IN IT< once you are In Christ.

3.) Why?....... Because God and Christ are the KOG., and this is why Jesus told you that """the KOG is within you"".......but its not, unless you are IN CHRIST and you have to be BORN AGAIN, to get there, and that is not water baptism.

Only God can put you eternally there, by Spiritual Union, and the only reason He will, is if you provide God with what He requires of you.

That is SIMPLY..........our.: "Faith, is counted by God, as (Christ's) Rightesouness".

4.) This is why Paul teaches that Salvation is ""Justification by Faith"", same as it was for Job, and Noah, and Abraham.

See...., you have to become as Righteous as God, to exist "IN" Christ who is Righteousness.
You have to become as Righteous as GOD, to go to heaven, as only the Righteous are found there... So, God has to give you "the gift of Righteousness", or you'll never have it.

5.) THis is why God gives to the BELIEVER........""the imputed righteousness of Christ"""".............So, to Join God.....is to be reconciled to God who is "A Spirit".........and Only God's Spirit can do this for you by "new Birth". = Born.....again...

So, that is the "Simplicity that is in Christ"...and it is simple if its been revealed to you by the HS........and regarding this Gift of Salvaiton given by God... = you can't earn it, or keep it, or maintain it , or deserve it, or lose it.
Its all of God, provided to the BELIEVER.... for eternity.

Its a GIFT.......its the "Gift of Righteousness".. its "Eternal Life".

Welcome to : Salvation.
 
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If I can't earn, keep or lose salvation, why bother do anything? So being good is useless? So being evil is forgotten?

Is God really justice if He gives His salvation arbitrarily?
 

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If I can't earn, keep or lose salvation, why bother do anything?

A sinner can't pay for your own sins, and its your sins that separate you from God.

This has to be resolved or you will die in your sins, and you will not go to Heaven.

God sent Jesus to The Cross, as your sacrifice for your sin, so that you can be forgiven, and reconciled to God.

So, once you are forgiven, and have become a born again Christian.......then you are to do good works..... but not to try to be saved, but because you are saved.

A Christians does good works, and lives for the Lord, not to try to earn Salvation, or to try to keep it., as they have already received God's Salvation.

So being good is useless? So being evil is forgotten?

The sinner is invited to come to Jesus and be forgiven, and thereby become a part of God's Eternal Family.
Jesus is the WAY to the Father, like this.

"All who trust in Christ, shall be saved".


Is God really justice if He gives His salvation arbitrarily?

There is nothing arbitrary about Salvation.
Its very specific......regarding how its given, why its given, and to whom its given.
 
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@ArkangeMikail Nice to see you again. Were you able to find a Bible teaching church? Since you used to be a Muslim, I hope you can find a church home.

Once we believe on the Lord as our Savior, Jesus promised the Holy Spirit would indwell us as believers. Also, Jesus took our sins and gave us His righteousness....this is called "Imputed Righteousness".

As believers we seek to walk with the Lord in our daily life. This is a life of peace.
 
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