Which proves that the old man is at war with the new man daily per Paul in Romans 7.
The Singular Factor In Coming To God Through Christ.
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On the contrary, you and nearly everyone on this forum have skipped Acts.
They teach that after exposing a sinner to the gospels, skip the Acts 2 experience and take the sinner directly to Romans 10(Epistle to saved saints).
This is mass deception at an alarming rate.
Ferris Bueller
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Sometimes. Sometimes it's not a war at all. Sometimes it's a real battle.
Ferris Bueller
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There aren't just a few thousand saved people in all of church history as you are contending. There are millions and millions. And most of them did not follow a legalistic formula to get saved.
Ferris Bueller
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What denominations do not baptize their people? I know there are probably a couple of rouge denom's out there that don't. Can you name one of them to satisfy my curiosity?
Ferris Bueller
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See, when you insist that you have to specifically say the name of the Son, or else you aren't saved, that's legalism. You're no better than the Israelites were under the legalism of the law. You've missed the point.
Ferris Bueller
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Just pick who you're going to talk to, and who you're not going to talk to. You don't have to engage every ridiculous argument in Christianity. I don't. There's no reason to. Some contentions are so utterly meaningless that I can't even engage them long enough to finish reading the post.
Ferris Bueller
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Your sect has turned water baptism into an idol, and into the savior.
Paul thanked God that he’d baptized only a few people, and emphasized that God sent him NOT TO BAPTIZE, but sent him to preach the gospel - proving that the focus of the gospel, and of salvation, is absolutely not at all on water baptism, as your sect erroneously does.
If God focused on water baptism in the way your sect does, Paul world have been sent both to preach the gospel, and to baptize.
That you turn any discussion on salvation into a debate on water baptism, illustrates that your sect has majored on the minors.
Romans 10:8-13 is where Paul specifically says, this is what we, the apostles, teach about how to be SAVED.
Yet there’s not one drop of water found in that instruction on salvation.
It’s the BLOOD of Jesus that “ washes away” Sins....not water.....
Water Baptism in and of itself, is Nothing.....it’s the condition of the Heart
The OUTSTANDING Evangelist, Oliver Greene, tells the story of how he was water baptized as a young man for the sole-purpose Of Thinking it would help him get into some girl’s pants.....Water Baptism is a type of “ picture show” that illustrates on the outside, what has taken place to a Believer on the Inside....as always, it is the “ BELIEF” in Jesus That Saves....
The risen Jesus warns believers in the church of Sardis that they are a DEAD church (though they think they’re alive) and warns them that they must REPENT, because most of them had DEFILED their robes (white robes are the saints righteousness, says scripture) then warns them that those who fail to be OVERCOMERS will have their names BLOTTED OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE.
How are those in that church dead?
Not physically, obviously.
How then are they dead?
In their sins:
Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened,who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Jesus never got the unconditional eternal security memo.
Amen, sometimes the battle with our flesh has to get violent per resistance.
On the contrary, Jesus never knew or knows the Acts skippers.
They are not buried nor crucified with Christ.
Jesus was speaking of them here...
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you:....
Mostly non denoms.
That is the rave today.
Even the Baptists say you are saved by a mere confession(before baptism).
Then they baptize you INTO THE BAPTIST CHURCH.
Anyone that teaches(token) "baptism after salvation" is buried alive.
The name of the son(Jesus) is the point.
I dare you to pray for healing or cast out devils in the titles.....
No, PETER turned water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ into a command per salvation.
My "sect" simply agrees with Peter.
Your "sect" debunks Peter.
Good thing you were not there at Pentecost debunking Peter, heh?
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