The song of Mary- an unorthodox perspective

[Waiting on him]

No – it's because I believe that Scripture is God-breathed (2 Tim. 3:16).
I understand if YOU don’t – but if it is stated in Scripture – it’s true.

If God can speak the universe into existence – why is the virgin birth such a tough thing to believe?
How do YOU think the universe was created?

BTW - I HAVE read the last page of posts. I guess I’m a little puzzled because the posters all claim to be “Christian”.
Like I ‘said – there is plenty if Scriptural evidence.

Genesis 24:67 KJV
[67] And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.
Matthew 1:24 KJV
[24] Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:


So how is it Joseph took Mary to be his wife

 

[Jim B]

Genesis 24:67 KJV
[67] And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.
Matthew 1:24 KJV
[24] Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:


So how is it Joseph took Mary to be his wife?

Choosing two out-of-context quotes from a 412-year-old translation to "prove" a point actually proves one fact: you are confused and wrong.

Genesis 24:67, "Then Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah’s tent. He took Rebekah, and she became his wife, and he loved her. So Isaac was comforted after his mother’s death.

Matthew 1:24-25, "When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife but had no marital relations with her until she had given birth to a son, and he named him Jesus.

Both selections from the NRSVue, but every decent modern translation is similar.

I strongly suggest that in order to prevent further eisegesis you switch to a better translation, one that doesn't butcher the text by dividing it into separate verses and makes the meaning clear to those of us who read-write-think in modern English.

 

[Waiting on him]

Choosing two out-of-context quotes from a 412-year-old translation to "prove" a point actually proves one fact: you are confused and wrong.

Genesis 24:67, "Then Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah’s tent. He took Rebekah, and she became his wife, and he loved her. So Isaac was comforted after his mother’s death.

Matthew 1:24-25, "When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife but had no marital relations with her until she had given birth to a son, and he named him Jesus.

Both selections from the NRSVue, but every decent modern translation is similar.

I strongly suggest that in order to prevent further eisegesis you switch to a better translation, one that doesn't butcher the text by dividing it into separate verses and makes the meaning clear to those of us who read-write-think in modern English.

So how is it Joseph took her to be his wife, did he give her a promise ring?

 

[Jim B]

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[Waiting on him]

Choosing two out-of-context quotes from a 412-year-old translation to "prove" a point actually proves one fact: you are confused and wrong.

Genesis 24:67, "Then Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah’s tent. He took Rebekah, and she became his wife, and he loved her. So Isaac was comforted after his mother’s death.

Matthew 1:24-25, "When Joseph awoke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him; he took her as his wife but had no marital relations with her until she had given birth to a son, and he named him Jesus.

Both selections from the NRSVue, but every decent modern translation is similar.

I strongly suggest that in order to prevent further eisegesis you switch to a better translation, one that doesn't butcher the text by dividing it into separate verses and makes the meaning clear to those of us who read-write-think in modern English.

So how is it Joseph took her to be his wife,
Maybe they shared a stick of gum?

 

[Jim B]

So how is it Joseph took her to be his wife, did he give her a promise ring?

This doesn't even deserve a reply. Try learning about "betrothal" and marriage during the time that Joseph and Mary lived.

So how is it Joseph took her to be his wife,
Maybe they shared a stick of gum?

Let me know when you graduate from third grade!

 

[Waiting on him]

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They were already betrothed some time before all this happened. There was only one task left to complete the marriage.

 

[Waiting on him]

This doesn't even deserve a reply. Try learning about "betrothal" and marriage during the time that Joseph and Mary lived.

Let me know when you graduate from third grade!

So what made them to be husband and wife in the eyes of God. Was there a marriage liscense issued in that time?

 

[Jim B]

They were already betrothed some time before all this happened. There was only one task left to complete the marriage.

You answered your own question in post #185. If you can't discuss a topic seriously why are you participating?

 

[Jim B]

So what made them to be husband and wife in the eyes of God. Was there a marriage liscense issued in that time?

See my reply immediately above...

 

[Waiting on him]

This doesn't even deserve a reply. Try learning about "betrothal" and marriage during the time that Joseph and Mary lived.

Let me know when you graduate from third grade!

Tag me when you have a legitimate answer?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Genesis 24:67 KJV
[67] And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.
Matthew 1:24 KJV
[24] Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:


So how is it Joseph took Mary to be his wife?

If an angel of God spoke to you and explained that your betrothed conceived a child by God - I would be incline d to believe him.
Wouldn't YOU?
Joseph probably knew the Scriptures and the prophecy from Isaiah (Isa.7:14).

 

[Waiting on him]

If an angel of God spoke to you and explained that your betrothed conceived a child by God - I would be incline d to believe him.
Wouldn't YOU?
Joseph probably knew the Scriptures and the prophecy from Isaiah (Isa.7:14).

So how is it Joseph took Mary to be his wife? I believe the Angel actually said take her unto yourself?

 

[BreadOfLife]

It’s not scripture that is in question. I supported the case entirely with the only two scriptural accounts available.

What is in question is people’s interpretation of those two brief accounts. A myth was created and that narrative has been perpetuated by the church for centuries. The original error is absent from the actual scriptures, and has been created by men.

What "myth"?
It is a fulfillment of a prophecy from Isaiah (Isa.7:14).

 

[Waiting on him]

How was it Joseph took Mary unto himself?

 

[Jim B]

So how is it Joseph took Mary to be his wife? I believe the Angel actually said take her unto yourself?

Angels didn't speak in early 17th Century Englyshe.

 

[BreadOfLife]

So how is it Joseph took Mary to be his wife? I believe the Angel actually said take her unto yourself?

Matt. 1L25
He took his wife, but did not have marital relations with her until she gave birth to a son, whom he named Jesus.

What's the problem??

 

[BreadOfLife]

How was it Joseph took Mary unto himself?

Verse 20 says:
Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife because the child conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.

What's the problem??

 

[Jim B]

Matt. 1L25
He took his wife, but did not have marital relations with her until she gave birth to a son, whom he named Jesus.

What's the problem??

"Waiting on Him" is the problem. He just wants to be argumentative.

 

[Waiting on him]

Matt. 1L25
He took his wife, but did not have marital relations with her until she gave birth to a son, whom he named Jesus.

What's the problem??

Took her where, Disney land?