The taken and the left

[amigo de christo]

It was done out of love. Have fun with your passages out of context of the whole. But NO DISSING YOUR BRETHREN about any of this out of malice and rotten fruit. Jesus dissed the Pharisees, but it was for them to look at themselves - for their own good, and He did win some over. Jesus also said, calling your brethren a fool you shall be in danger of hell fire.

just remember this as well , never suckle from the judge not correct not teet of a harlot .
But yes he sure is twisting the scrips big time .

 

[David in NJ]

Matthew 24:39 , 39 and did not know until the flood came and TOOK them all away,
Luke 17:27 .. until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and DESTROYED them all.


Luke 17: 26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and DESTROYED them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

31 “In that day, he who is on the housetop, and his goods are in the house, let him not come down to take them away. And likewise the one who is in the field, let him not turn back. 32 Remember Lot’s wife. 33 Whoever seeks to save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, in that night there will be two men in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left. 35 Two women will be grinding together: the one will be taken and the other left. 36 Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left.”

Matthew 24:36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and TOOK them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be TAKEN and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be TOOK and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Luke 17:36-3736 Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left.”

37 And they answered and said to Him, “Where, Lord?”

So He said to them, “Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.”

cc: @rebuilder 454 @William Barton

So simple a child can understand.

But you are not dealing with children!

If they were, they would be believing every word of God = just as you posted.

 

[David in NJ]

See also 1Corinthians 15:51-52.

1 Corinthians chapter 15 is about the SECOND Coming of Christ

 

[David in NJ]

Show me where "destroyed them all"....(every human not in the ark), at the rapture.
Where is this?

OPEN your eyes =
Luke 17:27 .. until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and DESTROYED them all.

 

[amigo de christo]

OPEN your eyes =
Luke 17:27 .. until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and DESTROYED them all.

The day of ..........
i say the hour wherein THE DOOR shall close is nigh .
For when they shall say peace n safety , ALL OUTSIDE SHALL WAIL as SUDDEN destruction
comes raining down upon them , their beast and its system , this inclusive god has lied to them all .
Now ON this day and in that hour
KNOWN to no man . ALL inside , THOSE WHOSE FAITH WAS T RULY IN THE TRUE JESUS
will be kept safe , but unto all who denied him , his gospel and preached rather unbeleif
and a lie , Oh upon them all it will be fire and brimstone
as it was in the days o SODOM so too shall it be in the day of the SON OF MAN
And as it was in the days of NOAH , so too shall it be in the day OF the SON of man .
As lott left with the angels guiding ,
As noah and his family had left and entered into the ark
Upon lott and his families exit
SUDDEN destruction came upon all who had dwelt OUTSIDE of faith and lived in SIN
As too with NOAH . THE ARK , which is a figure of what was to come ,
built by the guidance of GOD and by the hands of men , WHICH LATER the ARK would be OF GOD
and not built by human hands but THE TRUE ITSELF .
ON the day of JESUS , e veryone outside of that ark , WHICH BE HIS BODY and HE THE HEAD , oh they gonna wail .
You see no ma tter how lovey do and caring a lie might seem , OH IT STILL A LIE and not lie
IS OF THE TRUTH . NO LIE cometh of GOD . but it sure do come of another , aka serepent
who sure can feed the wicked heart of man .

 

[rebuilder 454]

you see everything through pre trib view . that is why you cannot discern nor see .
Same goes for anyone who sees scrips through the indoctrination of men .
No wonder peter said they twist the scrips unto their own destruction .

POT<>KETTLE BLUE RIBBON AWARD.

Jesus taught it.
So Jesus , like me, sees it clearly.
But twist it if His words offend you.
Do you ever do anything besides put down the brethren because we make you oppose the bible?

 

[rebuilder 454]

It was done out of love. Have fun with your passages out of context of the whole. But NO DISSING YOUR BRETHREN about any of this out of malice and rotten fruit. Jesus dissed the Pharisees, but it was for them to look at themselves - for their own good, and He did win some over. Jesus also said, calling your brethren a fool you shall be in danger of hell fire.

Even when I invite you to stop the attacks, and debate concept vs concept, you spew hate.
Sad.

 

[rebuilder 454]

just remember this as well , never suckle from the judge not correct not teet of a harlot .
But yes he sure is twisting the scrips big time .

I invited her to debate concept vs concept.
She responds in personal spew.
And you support it and do the same.

You guys need help.
Very sick hatred of the brethren in here.

 

[David in NJ]

I invited her to debate concept vs concept.
She responds in personal spew.
And you support it and do the same.

You guys need help.
Very sick hatred of the brethren in here.

Stop hating the Prophecy of the LORD = "Immediately after the Tribulation......I Come"

 

[Brakelite]

The letters to the seven churches are what is called a three-fold prophecy. To those when John was alive it was to those particular churches. And I agree with you that the second fold are people types throughout the New Covenant Church. It is only now that we can look back at church history and see that they are a revelation of the seven church ages in order before the second coming of Christ. To miss this last revelation leaves one in ignorance instead of as Peter said "Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ."

Do what things? Mature in all the fruit of the Spirit. "For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins."

The last church age is the Laodicean. No church after that. So the final church to be changed at the second coming is a repentant Laodicean church.

 

[rebuilder 454]

I agree about the three denomination types that still need to "overcome." But the Philadelphians will not have to be martyred, "10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11 Behold, I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown."

I can see how this looks like there will be in a pre-trib. rapture for them, and I am open to that interpretation. But it could also be a natural death, instead of martyrdom by beheading. When looking at the whole picture, that is seven years before the actual second coming of Jesus to the earth, and unfortunately there are no Scriptures that actually explains the difference in the same passage. There is always a problem with the interpretation of stand alone verses that people use to base their belief on, because there is another verse that contradicts whatever view is being paraded as their proof text. Dissing people and saying, "we are looking for the Antichrist, not Christ, that is foolish to diss. Jesus says to do so, you shall be in danger of hell fire. That is why I am not dogmatic in any one of the verses regarding pre-trib., post-trib., post-wrath, or even post-Millennium. But I do recognize one at the second coming, but of martyrs only, and one after the Millennium of everyone else. The one before is only martyrs for Christ and is called the first resurrection, so there went the pre-trib. theory; that could be from only the GT, or for the past 2,000 years (not clear). There may be a verse that sounds like the second coming comes at a time of peace and safety, where they are eating and drinking without a care in the world in the gospels, but you then have to wonder how they missed the world being in a state of pure chaos as Revelation shows the horrors right before the second coming.

The point is, there is no passage that explains them both in the same passage, clearly defining there are two times of resurrection of the dead before Christ comes, except in Revelation that shows only martyrs will be resurrected and rules and reigns with Christ for the thousand years, and then after that, it is called the second resurrection, not third or fourth when everyone else, good or bad will be resurrected, and all that will save them is if their name is written in the Book of Life. Therefore, accordingly not all Christians will see the leadership of Christ in His 1,000 year reign on earth. But doesn't every eye see Him? You can have your dog fight, but I just preach be ready for anything, including dying for Christ. As for us "ruling and reigning" with Christ for those thousand years, that would be a billion or more rulers, but Scripture says there are only 24 thrones, and Paul says there will be 12 thrones for the Apostles to judge the tribes of Israel, not for every Christian.

The second coming is rev 19, on white horses.
The rapture is 1 thes 4, Matthew 24 "before the flood", acts 1, the last supper dialogue, and mat 25 the virgin parable.


I did not see any personal attacks!!!!!
Nice!!!!!

 

[rebuilder 454]

The day of ..........
i say the hour wherein THE DOOR shall close is nigh .
For when they shall say peace n safety , ALL OUTSIDE SHALL WAIL as SUDDEN destruction
comes raining down upon them , their beast and its system , this inclusive god has lied to them all .
Now ON this day and in that hour
KNOWN to no man . ALL inside , THOSE WHOSE FAITH WAS T RULY IN THE TRUE JESUS
will be kept safe , but unto all who denied him , his gospel and preached rather unbeleif
and a lie , Oh upon them all it will be fire and brimstone
as it was in the days o SODOM so too shall it be in the day of the SON OF MAN
And as it was in the days of NOAH , so too shall it be in the day OF the SON of man .
As lott left with the angels guiding ,
As noah and his family had left and entered into the ark
Upon lott and his families exit
SUDDEN destruction came upon all who had dwelt OUTSIDE of faith and lived in SIN
As too with NOAH . THE ARK , which is a figure of what was to come ,
built by the guidance of GOD and by the hands of men , WHICH LATER the ARK would be OF GOD
and not built by human hands but THE TRUE ITSELF .
ON the day of JESUS , e veryone outside of that ark , WHICH BE HIS BODY and HE THE HEAD , oh they gonna wail .
You see no ma tter how lovey do and caring a lie might seem , OH IT STILL A LIE and not lie
IS OF THE TRUTH . NO LIE cometh of GOD . but it sure do come of another , aka serepent
who sure can feed the wicked heart of man .

You just described Noah gathered and in the ark pretrib.

Amen.
Looks like you may be waking up.

Pssst...postribbers need Noah gathered AFTER THE FLOOD (postrib gathering)

 

[rebuilder 454]

I agree about the three denomination types that still need to "overcome." But the Philadelphians will not have to be martyred, "10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11 Behold, I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown."

I can see how this looks like there will be in a pre-trib. rapture for them, and I am open to that interpretation. But it could also be a natural death, instead of martyrdom by beheading. When looking at the whole picture, that is seven years before the actual second coming of Jesus to the earth, and unfortunately there are no Scriptures that actually explains the difference in the same passage. There is always a problem with the interpretation of stand alone verses that people use to base their belief on, because there is another verse that contradicts whatever view is being paraded as their proof text. Dissing people and saying, "we are looking for the Antichrist, not Christ, that is foolish to diss. Jesus says to do so, you shall be in danger of hell fire. That is why I am not dogmatic in any one of the verses regarding pre-trib., post-trib., post-wrath, or even post-Millennium. But I do recognize one at the second coming, but of martyrs only, and one after the Millennium of everyone else. The one before is only martyrs for Christ and is called the first resurrection, so there went the pre-trib. theory; that could be from only the GT, or for the past 2,000 years (not clear). There may be a verse that sounds like the second coming comes at a time of peace and safety, where they are eating and drinking without a care in the world in the gospels, but you then have to wonder how they missed the world being in a state of pure chaos as Revelation shows the horrors right before the second coming.

The point is, there is no passage that explains them both in the same passage, clearly defining there are two times of resurrection of the dead before Christ comes, except in Revelation that shows only martyrs will be resurrected and rules and reigns with Christ for the thousand years, and then after that, it is called the second resurrection, not third or fourth when everyone else, good or bad will be resurrected, and all that will save them is if their name is written in the Book of Life. Therefore, accordingly not all Christians will see the leadership of Christ in His 1,000 year reign on earth. But doesn't every eye see Him? You can have your dog fight, but I just preach be ready for anything, including dying for Christ. As for us "ruling and reigning" with Christ for those thousand years, that would be a billion or more rulers, but Scripture says there are only 24 thrones, and Paul says there will be 12 thrones for the Apostles to judge the tribes of Israel, not for every Christian.

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"There may be a verse that sounds like the second coming comes at a time of peace and safety, where they are eating and drinking without a care in the world in the gospels, but you then have to wonder how they missed the world being in a state of pure chaos as Revelation shows the horrors right before the second coming"

Well I only read what it says.
Every rapture verse is pretrib setting.
Very clear.
I can only agree with it and embrace it.
I do not need it to say anything else.

 

[Brakelite]

As for the earth being left with a population to reboot things...

“29 For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the LORD of hosts. 30 Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, The LORD shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth. 31 A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth; for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations, he will plead with all flesh; he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the LORD. 32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. 33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground. ”
Jeremiah 25:29-33 KJV

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“17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth. 18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake. 19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. 20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. 21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. 22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited. ”
Isaiah 24:17-22 KJV

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“12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? ”
Revelation 6:12-17 KJV

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There will however be a new heavens and a new earth, which has been promised to the meek to inherit. But not yet. Not at the second coming. Not until the wicked are resurrected and judged and destroyed in the lake of fire which will die the entire planet reducing it to a lifeless empty shell, just as it was prior to creation. At the end of the 1000 years the new Jerusalem housing the redeemed from all ages, will descend out of heaven and witness the recreation of the earth. That is when this will be fulfilled...

“1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. 2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. 3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts. ”
Malachi 4:1-3 KJV

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[amigo de christo]

You just described Noah gathered and in the ark pretrib.

Amen.
Looks like you may be waking up.

Pssst...postribbers need Noah gathered AFTER THE FLOOD (postrib gathering)

you mean PRE WRATH . not pre trib as yo u all teach it .
Cause i darn sure didnt see after they got on the ark
Suddenly a king appearing to persecute the left behind . NO SIR it was THE WRATH OF GOD that came upon them all .
Just like the days of lott .
JUST like EVEN JESUS said when HE said , AFTER the tribulation they shall see the coming of the SON of man .
And all tribes will mourn .
THE wrath THE SHEEP are kept back from , IS NOT that of anti christ and the beast
but rather THE WRATH of GOD and of CHRIST that cometh against them all who had worshipped
this inclusive beast . yeah , notice i put the word inclusive into it .
CAUSE IF ya aint figured it out yet , the god behind this big ol peace plan for the world ,
This inclusive ecumeincal god so many now think IS GOD and is his plan for peace , OH ITS SATAN BUD .
SO i would not worry so much ab out pre , mid or post .
WHAT I WOULD DO , IF I WERE YOU , FLEE ANYTHING ECUMEINCAL NOW .
Have no part in its intefaith camp of anti christ and its peace plan .

 

[David in NJ]

The last church age is the Laodicean. No church after that. So the final church to be changed at the second coming is a repentant Laodicean church.

100%

They will not repent until revealing of the Antichrist = even then some will not repent

 

[amigo de christo]

100%

They will not repent until revealing of the Antichrist = even then some will not repent

and this too is a one hundred percent TRUTH ...................
ALL who rejected the love of the T RUTH whereby they might be saved , AKA THE REAL GOSPEL
of YE MUST ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE ON JESUS for to be saved , OH THEY GONNA BUY A LIE ALL RIGHT
and all shall be damned .
NOW what lie do i see getting sold to the false religoins as well as to christendom
And b ehind it is a peace plan I KNOW BE OF ANTI CHRIST .
Looks like something has been unleashed and that something is a lie
and by that LIE it can UNIFY ALL OF THE DECIEVED to merge as one
RIGHT UNDER A PLAN OF ANTI CHRIST .
Something has went dead wrong my friend . SOMETHING is being sold as though its love and made to look so loving
And that on this path be the way TO PEACE N SAFETY OF THE WORLD .
A unfication of sorts to b e as ONE . ONE MIND , ONE HEART and it AINT under GOD .
IT will be under this one . AND BY PEACE SHALL HE DESTROY many .
And if one cannot discern that which is and has been of anti christ and its prophets
THEY DARN SURE aint gonna discern the ONE they all being led too .
THEY gonna believe the LIE , IT MUST bE GOD , THIS HAS TO BE OF GOD .
SO yeah david . A DELUSION has already been sent . And it grows by the day and it grows by the hour
and all it do is lead this people into deeper and more hatred and more rebellion
AGAINST THE ONE TRUE GOD AND HIS CHRIST AND SOON HIS SAINTS TOO . Oh yeah
SOMETHING is on the rise . And if they cannot discern the voice of its false prophets
WHO DO NOTHING but gather the decieved to be as one
THEN HOW ON EARTH are they gonna discern IT when it rises . NO SIR they wont , THEY GONNA BELIEVE ITS OF GOD my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

100%

They will not repent until revealing of the Antichrist = even then some will not repent

This is that Spirit of anti christ that YE heard should COME and even NOW is it in the world .
And oh yeah there are many many many anti christs now david .
And sadly a lot of them in wool too . JESUS is being DENIED and they do not give a rip one .
All they care about is PEACE N SAFETY IN THE WORLD . and the fact that this peace n safety plan
HAS absolutely LIED to the false religoins as well as to christendom ,
FRIEND THEY DONT GIVE A RIP ONE . for man is their GOD NOW and their hopes be in men and a lie david .
A LIE . A lie they made and many now love .
And now a word
and all who made and loved a lie . In case you wondering where that phrase got clipped from ,
I GOT it from the warning ab out ALL WHO GO TO LAKE OF FIRE . ALL WHO MADE AND LOVED A LIE .
And i see A LIE GETTING LOVED BIG TIME by many now .
THE LIE that has said , ALL religoins be serving the same GOD in differnnt ways
HEY the GOD of the christain is no better than the god of the muslim or any other religon .
GUESS WHO JUST GOT DENEID and WHAT JUST GOT DENIED by THAT LIE .
WHY JESUS DID , WHY HIS GOSPEL DID .
AND now a word to help explain to this so called lovey do generation .
YA PEACE PLAN , ITS NOT OF GOD , FOR IT DENEID the PEACE PLAN OF GOD .
THE GOSPEL of YE MUST BELIEVE ON JESUS for to be saved , to be reconciled too and have PEACE WITH GOD .
Sneak one that ol devil is . HE been lying to the ecumiencal camp f or years .

 

[amigo de christo]

100%

They will not repent until revealing of the Antichrist = even then some will not repent

ps i forgot to g ive the word .
And now a word .
WHO is a liar , but he who DENIES JESUS IS THE CHRIST , he is anti christ .
SO SEEING THE ECUMENcIAL LOVE TRAIN of INTERFIATH just sold
YE NO NEED TO REPENT AND BELEIVE ON JESUS to a camp WHO ALREADY DENIES HE IS CHRIST
and told them all , HEY WE ALL SERVE the same GOD .
WHO ya THINK is behind it . WHO an WHAT would b ring such a idea to mankind .
AN id ea that it dont matter if one beleives on JESUS or not , it dont matter that teh false religoins
DENY HE IS CHRIST , HE IS THE SON OF GOD , HEY WE JUST ALL SERVING GOD DIFFERENTLY .
WHO THE HECK would sell that LIE . IF said An anti christ , a liar , the dark one known as satan
THEN YOU my friend be spot on right .
CAUSE always remember , NO LIE IS OF THE TRUTH
AND GOD TESTIFIED , HIS SPIRIT TESTIFIES ON JESUS THE CHRIST and not a lie that implies OH ITS OKAY IF YE BLEIEVE NOT .
Only satan would do such a thing .
SO NOW we all know who is the god behind this big ol fat , all inclusive , lets b e one
Intefaith FOR WORLD PEACE Ecumeincal dialougue . WHY NONE OTHER THAN THE DEVIL . that be its god .

 

[1stCenturyLady]

The last church age is the Laodicean. No church after that. So the final church to be changed at the second coming is a repentant Laodicean church.

Yes. Have you noticed that the first and the last four are ALL to the end as they are denominations. The first and sixth are the same doctrine. The second and the GT are also the same as those Christians are martyrs.