The things I am concerned about as a believer now that Biden/Harris are the presumed elect.

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But you forget that teh states he flipped are mostly left leaning states. His victory could very well be bogus, but unless SCOTUS orders areview of the ballots in the states Trump is suing in- Biden has won! I don't think SCOTUS will usurp state authority that far without some empirical evidence of systemic fraud. That is what originalists would do. Let the evidence determine what needs to be the remedy. So it is up to the right to get actual ballots in enough of a quantiuty in the contested states to launch something that big.

The Ballots are the individuals "Evidence".
That "Evidence" has already been COMPROMISED, "Tampered with"... and "lost its secure chain of handling"... on several accounts... beginning with Mail handlers...and continuing with unlawful instruction and mishandling by counters.
A Concern being Addressed...ON that issue (mail Ballots).

The Crux is Hinging the HACKING into the Electronic Servers.
The Investagative Evidence IS Leaning Toward, "the Conspirator(S)"...OF the Hacking.

Not big news people take it upon themselves to sit in mommys basemen and HACK into electronic servers.

IS BIG news when ANY US Political party, CONSPIRES and uses Government electronic equipment, modify it from its Intended purpose, Spy on Americans Constitutional Private Rights, and Cheat Any American of their Constitutational Guaranteed Right.

That is WHAT Happened.
That is WHAT will be Revealed.
That is WHAT the CONSPIRATORS are Despertly Trying to KEEP hidden and Destroying Evidence OF their own Devious Actions.

(and their little minions continue doing their part, regurtating irrelevant talking points and holding their points up with personal slanderous speech).

Pss. 31
[13] For I have heard the slander of many: fear was on every side: while they took counsel together against me, they devised to take away my life.

Sir 26
[5] There be three things that mine heart feareth; and for the fourth I was sore afraid: the slander of a city, the gathering together of an unruly multitude, and a false accusation: all these are worse than death.

Rom 3:
[8] And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

Trust in God. Greater is He that is IN you than he THAT is IN the World.

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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i doubt President Biden or the democratic controlled Congress will take revenge - manny democratic voters want them to, but democratic leaders want reconciliation and calm. I am much more worried about Trump burning down the White House before he leaves.

You aren't concerned that people on your side are calling for revenge? Including some in the government? Aren't you concerned that those on your side are assaulting Trump supporters, stealing things from kids and assaulting them because they support Trump? Doesn't it bother you that your side is calling for white people to give up their homes? It doesn't bother you they are calling for this?

https://www.theblaze.com/news/1-yea...-be-forced-from-polite-society-we-have-a-list

https://www.theblaze.com/news/knife-wielding-man-threatens-prayer-group-for-trump
 
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I see that fear is just under the surface RN. Here's something to think about; God does not remove his Grace, we push it away. His kindness endures forever yet we feel threatened by it.......isn't that odd.....isn't that a revealing of the madness which dwells in our spirit's.

Not fear, just concern for this nation.

also I hope the rapture happens before persecution breaks out1 Me and pain have a mutual hatred of each other!:D:D:D:D

After walking with teh Lord for over 46 years now- I know our God provides for His own.
 
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The Ballots are the individuals "Evidence".
That "Evidence" has already been COMPROMISED, "Tampered with"... and "lost its secure chain of handling"... on several accounts... beginning with Mail handlers...and continuing with unlawful instruction and mishandling by counters.
A Concern being Addressed...ON that issue (mail Ballots).

The Crux is Hinging the HACKING into the Electronic Servers.
The Investagative Evidence IS Leaning Toward, "the Conspirator(S)"...OF the Hacking.

Not big news people take it upon themselves to sit in mommys basemen and HACK into electronic servers.

IS BIG news when ANY US Political party, CONSPIRES and uses Government electronic equipment, modify it from its Intended purpose, Spy on Americans Constitutional Private Rights, and Cheat Any American of their Constitutational Guaranteed Right.

That is WHAT Happened.
That is WHAT will be Revealed.
That is WHAT the CONSPIRATORS are Despertly Trying to KEEP hidden and Destroying Evidence OF their own Devious Actions.

(and their little minions continue doing their part, regurtating irrelevant talking points and holding their points up with personal slanderous speech).

Pss. 31
[13] For I have heard the slander of many: fear was on every side: while they took counsel together against me, they devised to take away my life.

Sir 26
[5] There be three things that mine heart feareth; and for the fourth I was sore afraid: the slander of a city, the gathering together of an unruly multitude, and a false accusation: all these are worse than death.

Rom 3:
[8] And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

Trust in God. Greater is He that is IN you than he THAT is IN the World.

Glory to God,
Taken

Well you won't hear any argument from me if they overturn the Biden presumptive win. It will taker god to do it. the Dems have a long long history of perfecting their election mischief. Both sides do things, but the Dems are the masters.
 

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Not fear, just concern for this nation.

also I hope the rapture happens before persecution breaks out1 Me and pain have a mutual hatred of each other!:D:D:D:D

After walking with teh Lord for over 46 years now- I know our God provides for His own.
Be encouraged by what i remind you of next .
Speaking of pain . Does stoning hurt .
Does being rodded hurt .
Does being beaten with whips hurt .
You bet it does . and now take a peek at what happened to paul and others .
We cannot escape pain . OH and yes it does hurt , but the LORD is with the lambs .
We will rejoice just as did the early ones and all lambs have through all ages .
John and peter , REJOICED after they had been beaten . AND WHY . well it says why
REJOICING that they had been counted worthy to suffer shame for HIS NAME .
BLESSED are you , not cursed , BUT BLESSED are ye when men shall revile you and persecute you and speak
all manner of evil against you , FOR JESUS sake . And JESUS had said to REJOICE when they do .
OH YES . we sure are appointed unto tribulation in this world . OH but as we suffer , so too shall HE CONSOLE US
and we too will by that same Spirit be able to console others who suffer as well .
Are you ready for my next three words .
PRAISE THE LORD .
 

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Concerning Things, with a Socalist Marxist Regime wielding utter Power...IMBALANCE...
OF CHECKS.

Backdoor, persuasion and cheating to Gain positions of utter Power is nothing new.

Backdoor, chipping away, bit by bit of the Govern-ED's LIBERTY, is nothing new.

Utter CONTROL by a Socalist Marxist Regime...
whom:
Their Underhandedness...IS WELL KNOWN...
whom:
Their Agenda and Intent ...IS WELL KNOWN...

"IS" of the UTMOST GRAVE Concern, OF LIBERTY, God Himself has Given to Every man; The Established US Government Agreed; and An Evil Regime is Cheating for Ultimate Power to Destroy that Civil Liberty.
(and BTW...Promoting the destruction of Spiritual Liberty as well)

Relief...Civily is BY Resistance and Truth.
Relief...Spiritually is BY Trust in God and His Truth and His Comfort.

Glory to God,
Taken
Socialism, democracy.....they both have the same tar.
You have highlighted the ingrained socialist problem but that slippery pole thrives in democracies as......it has a different face, that's all.......It is the human condition which is flawed......it's this condition that needs remedying.......sooooooo, we can bark and belch about liberals or democrats, socialism or democracy.....neither will deliver the utopia implied in their rhetoric.
 
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BE YE READY one and all WHO DO LOVE the LORD in SPIRIT and IN TRUTH .
Our persecutions shall soon only increase in this world . What is coming is coming and no man can stay it or slow it .
BE READY to suffer for JESUS . Be ready to be mocked , cast out of society and places
cast into prisons and YES even killed . Be ye ready to LOSE ALL and may all endure faithful to the END .
ITS COMING , as soon as this false delusion has finished filled up the world and sadly most churches too
They will as one TURN against the true lambs . Our betrayer , our betrayers and our betrayal draws nigh . CLING TO JESUS
and exhort one another daily . ITS COMING and as i said , IT WONT be stayed . ITS COMING .
 

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Socialism, democracy.....they both have the same tar.
You have highlighted the ingrained socialist problem but that slippery pole thrives in democracies as......it has a different face, that's all.......It is the human condition which is flawed......it's this condition that needs remedying.......sooooooo, we can bark and belch about liberals or democrats, socialism or democracy.....neither will deliver the utopia implied in their rhetoric.
Well when you right on something you are right . cause you are correct on this one my friend .
 

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Not fear, just concern for this nation.

also I hope the rapture happens before persecution breaks out1 Me and pain have a mutual hatred of each other!:D:D:D:D

After walking with teh Lord for over 46 years now- I know our God provides for His own.
Either way RN, be strong.....God will find a way of escape even in adversity. Some time ago I was reading the account of the martyrs through the dark ages. One account tells of of a friend's conversation with one about to be burnt at the stake......the friend asked, give me a signal if the pain is bearable by raising your hand. The victim was tied and the flames ignited.....the friend watched as his friend's body was being consumed ....the fingers were already gone when lo, he saw a hand being raised.

I think of this and it gives me confidence that we are not forsaken....ever.
 
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Socialism, democracy.....they both have the same tar.
I am not sure what you mean by "the same tar". Is that "tarred with the same brush"? However Socialism is NOT democracy, and democracy is NOT Socialism.

Democracy = free and fair elections for the citizens of a country to elect those who will be in government. Unfortunately too many voters have elected rascals to office over and over again.

Socialism = making the state your god, and having the state control everything to the detriment of the citizens.

Communism and Marxism are Socialism. Nazism was also Socialism. Both ideologies gave dictators control over the population, so that the people of the Soviet Union, China, Germany, etc. were all destroyed while the Communist "bosses" enjoyed life. Fidel Castro stole billions from Cuba while Cubans suffered. Vladimir Putin has also stolen billions from Russia while the Russians suffer.
 

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Either way RN, be strong.....God will find a way of escape even in adversity. Some time ago I was reading the account of the martyrs through the dark ages. One account tells of of a friend's conversation with one about to be burnt at the stake......the friend asked, give me a signal if the pain is bearable by raising your hand. The victim was tied and the flames ignited.....the friend watched as his friend's body was being consumed ....the fingers were already gone when lo, he saw a hand being raised.

I think of this and it gives me confidence that we are not forsaken....ever.
Thomas Hawkes. Amazing story!

Much love!
 

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I am not sure what you mean by "the same tar". Is that "tarred with the same brush"? However Socialism is NOT democracy, and democracy is NOT Socialism.

Democracy = free and fair elections for the citizens of a country to elect those who will be in government. Unfortunately too many voters have elected rascals to office over and over again.

Socialism = making the state your god, and having the state control everything to the detriment of the citizens.

Communism and Marxism are Socialism. Nazism was also Socialism. Both ideologies gave dictators control over the population, so that the people of the Soviet Union, China, Germany, etc. were all destroyed while the Communist "bosses" enjoyed life. Fidel Castro stole billions from Cuba while Cubans suffered. Vladimir Putin has also stolen billions from Russia while the Russians suffer.
I applaud you Enoch for seeing a difference between the tar and the brush......:)
 

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Be encouraged by what i remind you of next .
Speaking of pain . Does stoning hurt .
Does being rodded hurt .
Does being beaten with whips hurt .
You bet it does . and now take a peek at what happened to paul and others .
We cannot escape pain . OH and yes it does hurt , but the LORD is with the lambs .
We will rejoice just as did the early ones and all lambs have through all ages .
John and peter , REJOICED after they had been beaten . AND WHY . well it says why
REJOICING that they had been counted worthy to suffer shame for HIS NAME .
BLESSED are you , not cursed , BUT BLESSED are ye when men shall revile you and persecute you and speak
all manner of evil against you , FOR JESUS sake . And JESUS had said to REJOICE when they do .
OH YES . we sure are appointed unto tribulation in this world . OH but as we suffer , so too shall HE CONSOLE US
and we too will by that same Spirit be able to console others who suffer as well .
Are you ready for my next three words .
PRAISE THE LORD .

Well I am not a stranger when it comes to suffering for the sake of the Lord.

I have lost a wife, a job, been poked with a knife, threatened with arrest, followed by Chinese Secret Police, sp[ent days without sleep all for His names sake.

I just do not wish the darkness that must fall upon america to fall. I am not afraid and I rejoice in whatever the Lord chooses for me( given the multiple physical conditions I am impaired with, I speak from experience)

My concern is for teh hurt others will endure that doesn't have to happen . It will befall this nation because this nation has turned its back on teh Lord and so the Lord is turning His back on America. The jusgments that will befall are things I would not wish on the people, for I would rather see them come to the know the Lord than suffer judgment for rejecting HIm.
 

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Either way RN, be strong.....God will find a way of escape even in adversity. Some time ago I was reading the account of the martyrs through the dark ages. One account tells of of a friend's conversation with one about to be burnt at the stake......the friend asked, give me a signal if the pain is bearable by raising your hand. The victim was tied and the flames ignited.....the friend watched as his friend's body was being consumed ....the fingers were already gone when lo, he saw a hand being raised.

I think of this and it gives me confidence that we are not forsaken....ever.

I think I have been misunderstood. I am not concerned for me, but for the nation! My heart breaks for the land God allowed me to be born in and to labor in for HIs name sake. I am more than ready to suffer for HIs name and already have. But the pain people will needlessly have to endure because they have forced Godshand saddens me and concerns me for them. It is just and right and proper for God to do what is happening, but it gives no comfort as it doesn't with God. His heart is to bless and not curse.
 
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You (and many others) are getting ahead of yourself. The whole process is now subject to critical scrutiny and review in almost all the states. Biden's bogus victory is simply an illusion.

Ye but its good to speculate, helps us prepare and deal with it when/if it comes... And to be fair he does say they are presumed elect.
Take the vaccines for example. I could say stop worrying about it, no one has mandated anything and thats what they want
When it comes out suddenly people will have little time to digest, understand and then decide of a course of action to take against a movement that they have planned for decades... I always hope for the best but i always want to be aware of the worse...

Over here it looks like Melbourne is being primed for mass forced inoculations. If i don't act in Feb like i plan to then i can see me getting stuck here when we inevitably start getting cases again after summer. I see myself being at odds with local authorities and thrown in the gulag... So im not waiting around for stuff to be confirmed cos it will be too late then.
 
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i doubt President Biden or the democratic controlled Congress will take revenge - manny democratic voters want them to, but democratic leaders want reconciliation and calm. I am much more worried about Trump burning down the White House before he leaves.
Are you serious? This kind of talk is intentional slander and is a false witness.
Do not speak evil of any man...it could return back to you. Bless and do not curse.
 
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Maybe the least presidential in personal presentation, I don't know, I've seem some other pretty bad displays of bad behavior. But his record speaks for itself. What other modern president has come even close to accomplishing all that Trump has? I'll answer, none.

I hadn't stopped to realize #18, but you're right. He got us out of wars, not into them.

I wonder how may who voted Biden will experience Buyer's Remorse when they see their jobs disappear and the economy tank? When they see Iran fire it's missles at Israel, but then, I think that's when we'll be taken. So as the End of the Age Countdown, I think a Biden presidency is the minute hand moving closer to midnight.

But that really is the good question. Exactly which of his policies weren't good for us?

Much love!

I am not trying to prophesy here. But God raises up rulers and sets them down according to His will. Trump did much good for America and allowed us follwers to worship in quiet and confidence.

But I am convinced we are a nation under divine judgment. We have had more light of the gospel than any other Gentile nation in hsitory and we have forsaken god as a nation for secularism and hedonism. I believe God will allow Biden to step upi for the purposes of finalizinf the judgments long past due for this once godly nation whose light hasd dimmed so greatly.
 

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It seems like many Christian's faith is in Trump, not God.

Maybe, but I see it as believers hoping that God will keep Trump as POTUS so that this nation may return to a shadow of its former godliness. It is a misplaced faith, but I believe a hope in God nonetheless.
 
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