The things I am concerned about as a believer now that Biden/Harris are the presumed elect.
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I'm getting somewhat concerned...
Words and actions need to match.
Biden's claims of being "everyone's" president is being destroyed by plunging into some of the most divisive legislation to start his presidency with.
Trump's claims of "massive" voter fraud are being "massively" overstated.
And creating even more polarity.
Then.... because of Trump's position on wearing masks is absolutely unhelpful we now have another surge. I'm not sure why he didn't take the Republican's position during the first Flu pandemic. (At least publicly which if he did he would have won the election hands down)
We have the smaller rural hospitals turning away patients because all beds are full.
Words and actions need to match.
Biden's claims of being "everyone's" president is being destroyed by plunging into some of the most divisive legislation to start his presidency with.
Trump's claims of "massive" voter fraud are being "massively" overstated.
And creating even more polarity.
Then.... because of Trump's position on wearing masks is absolutely unhelpful we now have another surge. I'm not sure why he didn't take the Republican's position during the first Flu pandemic. (At least publicly which if he did he would have won the election hands down)
We have the smaller rural hospitals turning away patients because all beds are full.
quietthinker
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shouldn't be a problem for the US.....they can make bombs, I'm sure they can make more beds......or do they need to buy them from China?
And then...
Because of the pandemic....
There's a world wide food shortage coming.
We won't see a lot of this in America. We manufacture and grow about 60% of the entire world's supply of groceries but only have about 6% of the population.
Other nations produce food as well...but there production is a lot more "hands on" and labor intensive. Hence with the necessary processing for shipping and travel the workers are sick or dead. Or the transport from field to market is sick or dead.
Crops didn't get planted, harvested, stored, or shipped and rotted. Creating a slump in many different markets for various goods.
Chocolate is one such market. Chocolate markets have experienced increased demand as snacks but have also seen a decrease in cocoa beans.
Corn, wheat, and soybeans used to feed cattle, chickens and other livestock are also dropping in global supply.
Meaning that the end consumer availability is shrinking which will cause shortages and high prices. Here in America we won't experience hunger but will see higher prices next year. Other locations in the world will see famines. American percentage of average income spent for food is significantly lower than the rest of the world. Food is commodity based pricing. For Americans it's a nothing...but for those earning roughly $9,000/yr US, it's a substantial increase...for those earning a fourth as much....it's a famine.
And that's just the beginning
Then there's the political unrest in the rest of the world. Turkey, China, Iran and Pakistan all are having issues domestically and internationally. Africa is as well. Famines are only going to make these things worse.
And Joe Biden doesn't own the necessary gravitas of a strong leadership at home to influence world peace in the same fashion as Trump did. He is seen as the same foolish leader as Obama was. Unenforced treaties where America just gave away money with lip service given to performance of treaties.
It's gonna be a long four years.
Because of the pandemic....
There's a world wide food shortage coming.
We won't see a lot of this in America. We manufacture and grow about 60% of the entire world's supply of groceries but only have about 6% of the population.
Other nations produce food as well...but there production is a lot more "hands on" and labor intensive. Hence with the necessary processing for shipping and travel the workers are sick or dead. Or the transport from field to market is sick or dead.
Crops didn't get planted, harvested, stored, or shipped and rotted. Creating a slump in many different markets for various goods.
Chocolate is one such market. Chocolate markets have experienced increased demand as snacks but have also seen a decrease in cocoa beans.
Corn, wheat, and soybeans used to feed cattle, chickens and other livestock are also dropping in global supply.
Meaning that the end consumer availability is shrinking which will cause shortages and high prices. Here in America we won't experience hunger but will see higher prices next year. Other locations in the world will see famines. American percentage of average income spent for food is significantly lower than the rest of the world. Food is commodity based pricing. For Americans it's a nothing...but for those earning roughly $9,000/yr US, it's a substantial increase...for those earning a fourth as much....it's a famine.
And that's just the beginning
Then there's the political unrest in the rest of the world. Turkey, China, Iran and Pakistan all are having issues domestically and internationally. Africa is as well. Famines are only going to make these things worse.
And Joe Biden doesn't own the necessary gravitas of a strong leadership at home to influence world peace in the same fashion as Trump did. He is seen as the same foolish leader as Obama was. Unenforced treaties where America just gave away money with lip service given to performance of treaties.
It's gonna be a long four years.
We don't just put someone in a bed without staffing to nurse patients. But in this instance we are short on both nursing staff and beds.
All these things are leading to teh New World Order or as the bible calls it that part of teh fourth beast that devours the whole earth (Dan 7) the one world govt.
The virus has caused a global depression, even America is going to see food shortages. Things like the derecho in Iowas destroyed 1/16th of our nations corn crop. We are exporting record amount of food. Growers are culliong herds and flocks because feed is so expensive so prices wil soar!
Next year comes the great financial reset
nations are moving to digital currencies.
Biden is a globalist.
The green new deal will crush America
The leftist organizations are funded by China and G. Soros (BLM, ANtifa)
The world is coming undone.
What should be our response? The same as it should be in times of peace, prosperity and al other things. Seek first His Kingdom, exalt His glorious name, let our lights so shine- and especially, if we have the jpoyt of the Lord in our hearts, we need to make sure we tell our face!!!!
All these things are leading to teh New World Order or as the bible calls it that part of teh fourth beast that devours the whole earth (Dan 7) the one world govt.
The virus has caused a global depression, even America is going to see food shortages. Things like the derecho in Iowas destroyed 1/16th of our nations corn crop. We are exporting record amount of food. Growers are culliong herds and flocks because feed is so expensive so prices wil soar!
Next year comes the great financial reset
nations are moving to digital currencies.
Biden is a globalist.
The green new deal will crush America
The leftist organizations are funded by China and G. Soros (BLM, ANtifa)
The world is coming undone.
What should be our response? The same as it should be in times of peace, prosperity and al other things. Seek first His Kingdom, exalt His glorious name, let our lights so shine- and especially, if we have the jpoyt of the Lord in our hearts, we need to make sure we tell our face!!!!
What if this "new world order" doesn't exist due to inaccurate hermeneutics?
OR
What if the existing "World Order" is this "new world order" you claim needs to exist before the end...
OR
You are completely wrong in your assessment of scriptures altogether concerning eschatology.
And our customary corn surplus that is now gone can be made up in the next growing season or by more growing in the Southern Hemisphere. Usually this stuff goes into ethanol production instead of corn products.
We haven't even begun to touch what we use for food. (Corn chips, cereal, syrups, livestock feed and liquor)
There's a lot going on...
A pandemic is a nudge...not a real problem in itself...but a definite nudge.
The rioting around the globe is another nudge.
The coming food shortages are not going to truly affect America...but they will affect other places. And eventually erased.
It seems that you are accepting the bogus narrative about Wuhan virus as though it is factual. And the meaning of "cases" has been corrupted because of COVID. In medical parlance "case" correctly means "an instance of disease with its attendant circumstances."
So testing positive for virus antibodies is not a case until and unless the actual symptoms are exhibited, and the disease or sickness is shown to exist, and therefore requires treatment. People carry all kinds of antibodies in their immune systems, yet they are perfectly healthy.
However, positive testing has been weaponized, so that anyone who tests positive becomes a case. The same thing has happened with the recording of COVID deaths. Even when deaths were due to other causes, they were assigned to COVID to inflate the numbers and generate fear and panic. The very fact that there was a vicious and unjustified campaign against the proven HCQ package means that there was a criminal conspiracy to weaponize Wuhan virus against people and bring down their lives and their livelihoods. It is estimated that the suicides caused by coronavirus anxiety exceed the actual deaths from this virus.
There was a slogan sometime ago which called for "truth in advertising". Well there has been little or no truth in advertising this scamdemic, and until and unless a thorough and unbiased independent investigation is conducted, no one will know the truth about any of these numbers.
C'mon man. We have more mask wearing than ever in the US and have had that for some time now. And there still is a surge. It appears that all this mask wearing isn't super effective in stopping the spread.
And look what is happening to people who support Trump.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/million-maga-march-trump-supporters-attacked
Look what people are saying should happen to anyone who supported Trump.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/1-yea...-be-forced-from-polite-society-we-have-a-list
https://www.theblaze.com/glenn-radio/truth-and-reconciliation-trump-accountability-project
We are now deemed to be not fit for polite society.
All these things are leading to teh New World Order or as the bible calls it that part of teh fourth beast that devours the whole earth (Dan 7) the one world govt.
The virus has caused a global depression, even America is going to see food shortages. Things like the derecho in Iowas destroyed 1/16th of our nations corn crop. We are exporting record amount of food. Growers are culliong herds and flocks because feed is so expensive so prices wil soar!
Next year comes the great financial reset
nations are moving to digital currencies.
Biden is a globalist.
The green new deal will crush America
The leftist organizations are funded by China and G. Soros (BLM, ANtifa)
The world is coming undone.
What should be our response? The same as it should be in times of peace, prosperity and al other things. Seek first His Kingdom, exalt His glorious name, let our lights so shine- and especially, if we have the jpoyt of the Lord in our hearts, we need to make sure we tell our face!!!!
Wasn't one of the four horsemen famine? Hmm...
I agree! I think there is a big misinterpretation here. Our faith is NOT in Trump. But we don't want to see God's judgement on us. We see that keeping Trump in office is God's way of giving us another chance to move in the right direction.
We see Biden as God saying he's had enough of our countries rejection of him and of his grace upon our nation. So, now he is going to allow us to get what we deserve and suffer the consequences for our rejection of the freedoms God gave us.
I get very very tired of rehashing old history. We ALL know the sins of America. And NONE of us is defending the slavery and the unjust treatment of blacks and Native Americans.
But neither of those things define America. We could have had two Americas at the founding. But the founders realized in order to have a country we couldn't really do that. They were wise and good and flawed men. Imperfect but had wisdom to know what to do in order to create a land of freedom.
AND we have continued to do what is necessary in order to move forward.
Your way of thinking is so wrong there is no way to cover it all in a single post.
America was not conceived in racism | Opinion
No, the American Republic Was Not Founded on Slavery | Lipton Matthews
America Was Not Conceived in Racism
There are many more articles I could point to. But I doubt it would change your mind in any way.
There is truth to the conquering country aspect of Americas history. We did conquer the Indian nations. But to make some sort of claim that this was somehow most horrible I would wonder if you consider the rest of the world the same way? Do you believe ALL nations are equally wicked in this. For this has been the way of mankind throughout the known history?
Are the Native Americans just as wicked for their conquering ways and ways of slavery? What about the Central American tribes? Are they as evil? Or is only America evil in your eyes?
You have obviously fallen for the Racist agenda of the left. The Critical Race Theory. It's an evil and wicked and twisted though process.
America has brought more freedoms, helped more countries, been more generous, and provided more opportunities to anyone than any country in the world, despite our failings.
Right now, Native Americans and African Americans have the SAME opportunities that anyone else has.
But it appears that you support a political group that was and still is involved in suppression and oppression of the black community. Believing only that the blacks need white people to come to their rescue.
Well let us look at the bible verse that says there must be a NWO or 1 world govt.:
Dan. 7:
19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
We all know the vision of the statue and beasts represent the time of the gentiles spoken by Jesus.
All four beasts run consecutively and culminate in the eleventh horn (aka the antichrist)
So this fourth beast starts with the Conquering of the Grecian Empire and culminates with the return of Jesus.
The fourth beast started with Rome.
At some point as the angel declared this fourth beast has to conquers the whole world. Rome never did this nor any other empire since Rome, so this is still future.
After the empire rules the world (1 world govt), it is divided into ten spheres of rule (10 kings)
Then from this setup Antichrist comes to power.
That is the bible as written.
If you wish to see for yourself that this "New World Order" exists or not just do a search and study the following goals and aims of the following:
Club of Rome
Illuminati
Council of Foreign relations
European Economic Council
Trilateral Commission
Bilderbergs
European Round tables
Davos Forums
World Ecumenical Council
Tenets of the new age movement
Humanist Manifestos 1,2 and 3
It exists as surely as Israel was returned to their land in these last days as God prophesied!
As for Eschatology? I do not make preditions or set dates or answer what things are by their biblical descriptions ike som ehave.
I do accept teh Bible as written and do know that when symbols are used- teh Bible defines those symbols elsewhere. For teh Bible is a unified whole though written over 1400 years.
I may be wrong in some component here or there, but I remain 100% convinced that teh overall eschatology I teach and adhere to ( a dispensational eschatology) is teh superior way to look at these last days over a covenantal view.
Well Covid 19 is real! My use of medical language may be far from technically correct but is what is understand by the folks like me!
I know there are lots of murkiness surrounding this virus , which I believe was intentionally made and released by china. But I also know that if it is Gods time to allow biblical prophesy to be fulfilled, this virus can and will be used to help bring about what God has declared will come about. time will tell.
All the brouhaha surrounding the virus from divine perspective is irrelavent! It has brought about a global depression and has stirred the minds of everybody. How real and bogus is not the issue. What is are the results that could lead to the prophesied 1 world govt.
Yes but that horsemen is not ready to be released. That is the 2rd apocalyptic horse and he follows the march of the anitchrist, his move on the ten kings and conquering 3 of them and then comes famine. Until then we are living in the times Jesus said mst come to pass before the end. We have had terrible famines before and wer may have them again before the end times famine takes place.
Luke 21:
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
this follows the order of the first three horsemen!
antichrist going to conquer, wars, results of wars--famine and pestilence.
Ok...
Well I would think that there's a bunch of errors in your logic on this. So would many people who have a lot more letters behind their names that either of us do and have logical reasoning behind their assertions to back them up. Not saying that they would be 100% correct either.
But when we get so convinced in the definition of future prophecy to say that it can't be anything but our conclusions, we have made the precise same error the Pharisees did over 2000 years ago. This error cost them everything they hoped to gain.
Your timing sequence of prophecy being out of sequence is also troubling. The sequence of near/far/near/mid far/extreme far/near is unaccounted for as well.
There's a lot of other things that you have claimed as well that aren't accounted for as well such as racist views of God's that are a requisite for some of your conclusions.
I understand that it's difficult to give up a set of firmly held beliefs...but I also can say that your admittance to the Family of God was predicated by just that with firm belief.
On top of this...
You are holding on to many baseless accusations of conspiracy theories that are unsubstantiated by anyone other than a few people who love selling their books and websites. They are masters at creating believable stories but with no facts to substantiate their claims.
You threw a lot of things here, but let me answer them one by one.
1. Having multiple degrees does not insure you are more correct. Logic is something that is not all that important! Prov. 3:5
2. I am sure of what the bible has to say about future events. Putting specifics on some of them is what has gotten some into serious error. I think of Hal Lindsay and Jack Van Impe. Precious saints who went too far.
3. I have no clue as to what you mean by that near/far etc. timing thing. Please explain.
4. What conclusions have I drawn that require God to be racist? Please explain, not just throw an allegation out.
5. What conspiracy theories am I holding onto? Please list.
I see lots of generic non specific accusations on hour part but no specifics to be looked at and agreed to or repudiated. Can't do much with a post like this.
WaterSong
Well-Known Member
Don't be worried.
A Christian, a brother in Christ, remains as our president. And the countless prayers surrounding President Donald Trump et al, and VP Pence et al, shall continue to make it so. Because when God is for President Trump no enemy may succeed against him. Prayer warriors here and all over the world continue to hold President Trump in prayer. As we also continue to pray the enemy of democracy be defeated and the fair tabulated election results pour forth to reconfirm what many of us as voters already know. President Donald Trump will continue to serve America and keep his promises for another four years.
I pray also for President Trump's protection from the enemy that will resort to different tactics to unseat him once those facts become apparent and on the record.
In Jesus mighty name, amen.
Degrees aren't a be all cure all. But there are anthropologists and biblical translation scholars that provide good, solid explanations as to why what you have presented is incorrect not just in part but in substance.
Dispensation Theology is a racist Theology...it is Zionism. (Jews are favored over everyone else)
And biblical history scholars know exactly how previous prophecies have been recited and played out. Exactly with a timeline back and forth in time in the future consistently.
Isaiah has many examples, so do other books of prophecy. But that consistency hasn't deterred you in your assumptions.
And finally...aside from the scholarship, pointing to the basic facts of parallel between you and the Pharisees' firmly held beliefs you still persist in thinking along similar ways.
