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  1. theefaith

    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Rev 19:16
     
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    Dan 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
    Dan 7: A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
    Dan 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
    Dan 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.
    Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
    Dan 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

    Jhn 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

    1Co 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
    1Co 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
    1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
    1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
    1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
    1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
    1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
    1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
    1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

    God is Love :)
    HUGS
     
  3. theefaith

    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Kingdom not Of this world but in this world! Seek ye first the kingdom
    I give you the keys of the kingdom Matt 16:18
     
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    does your bible have any other verse in it besides Matt 16:18 ?
     
  5. theefaith

    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    It’s a small bible! Lol
     
  6. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

    :)
     
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    Davy Well-Known Member

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    So you are your own God, huh?
     
  8. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

    Jhn 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

    Jhn 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
     
  9. Davy

    Davy Well-Known Member

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    However, Jesus has not yet... returned to sit upon that throne, which David's throne is an earthly throne. Lord Jesus at present is at the right hand of The Father's throne. And didn't that same Acts 2 Scripture tell you that??? Yeah, I believe it did...

    Acts 2:32-35
    32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

    33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, He hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.


    34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, 'The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit Thou on My right hand,

    35 Until I make Thy foes Thy footstool.'
    KJV
     
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    Jhn 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
    Jhn 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
    Jhn 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
    Jhn 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
     
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    now compare those description to this same person,

    Revelation 1:12 "And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;"Revelation 1:13 "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle."Revelation 1:14 "His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;"Revelation 1:15 "And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters."Revelation 1:16 "And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength."


    PICJAG
    101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
     
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    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    7 pillars, 7 candlesticks, 7 thunders, 7 churches, 7 angels, 7 seals, 7 vials, 7 plagues..
    lots of 7's

    He is All and in All :)
     
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    101G Well-Known Member

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    Correct, and the person in Dan 7:9-11 is the same person in Revelation 1:12-16 that's "DIVERSIFIED". oh yes, he's all in all. when one get the correct understanding of Colossians 2:9

    PICJAG
    101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
     
  14. Davy

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    Well, you should have understood what Lord Jesus meant when He told the blind Jews that the kingdom of heaven is within you, but all you do is post irrelevant Scripture that doesn't explain it.

    In John 3 Jesus showed what it means. That which is born of the flesh and flesh, and that which is born of The Spirit is spirit. This present flesh world is NOT the kingdom He was pointing to. He was pointing to what is 'inside' our flesh, i.e., our spirit with soul, which is about the body image with soul of the world to come when He returns! It's that simple, but so many like you that try to make mysticism out of it.
     
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    Well, some see it differently..
    that's all I can say.. until you see it for yourself
    it won't make sense the words I tell ya.

    I am already in the Kingdom. I am not looking for an earthy kingdom.
    Even though I live on the earth, my heart and mind and might is in heaven with God.
    already..

    HUGS
     
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    is that the Kingdom of "GOD" within you, and not the Kingdom of heaven

    PICJAG
    101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
     
  17. Davy

    Davy Well-Known Member

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    A Mystery...

    David's throne is still... established upon this earth today, as God promised it would be.

    Gen 49:10
    10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto Him shall the gathering of the people be.
    KJV


    The prophecies in Genesis 49 are from God through Jacob to his twelve sons in the "last days" (now even!).

    The above prophecy is that the royal "sceptre", meaning kingly rule, will not depart from the tribe of Judah, nor a lawgiver, until Shiloh comes. Shiloh is put for Jesus.

    We know this prophecy can't be about Jesus' first coming, because He didn't come to reign then, He came to present Himself as the Perfect Sacrifice for one and all time. It will be at His 2nd coming when He will take rule over the whole earth.

    This means that royal sceptre, which is about Israel's throne, the throne of David, is still supposed to be setup here on earth today, all the way up to Christ's future return, for it is His inheritance when He returns. So where is it today?

    During the days of Jeremiah the prophet, the king of Babylon took Zedekiah, king of Judah of the house of David, poked his eyes out, and carried him captive to Babylon where he died. All of Zedekiah's son heirs to the throne were also killed, leaving no male heirs in Jerusalem to the throne of David. To this day, there has been no king of the house of David in Jerusalem since then.

    Per the Book of Jeremiah, he was kinsman redeemer to Zedekiah's daughters. Jeremiah with his scribe and Zedekiah's daughters escaped the Babylon captivity, but was instead kidnapped into Egypt, where he drops out of Bible and secular history. God told Jeremiah though that He made him a prophet to the nations, to tear down and destroy (involving Jerusalem), but also to build and to plant, but plant what and where?

    Jer 1:10
    10 See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.
    KJV


    In Jeremiah 31 is where God pointed to those whom He would build and plant, and it is related directly to what Paul quoted in Hebrews 8 & 10 about the house of Judah and house of Israel...

    Jer 31:31-33
    31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

    32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which My covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

    33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put My law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be My people.
    KJV


    That friends... is about The Gospel of Jesus Christ!

    So where is David's throne today? It certainly is not in Heaven, because it is an earthly throne. And it is Christ's inheritance.
     
  18. theefaith

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    Then the kingdom was taken from them matt 21:43 and given to Peter, Matt 16:18 the apostles, Matt 18:18 and their successors with the authority of the keys and the power to bind and lose!

    Teaching authority of the Apostles and their successors in the church founded in the one true founded by Jesus Christ!

    Jesus Christ is the head of the church, (eph 5:23) the body of Christ,
    (col 1:18) the new and eternal covenant, (pre-figured Jer 31:31) (Heb 8:8) new covenant replaces the Mosaic covenant, (Heb 8:13) Christ replaces David as king, (Lk 1:32-33) Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and men, (1 Tim 2:5 & Heb 12:24) but a mediator remains on earth mediating between God and His people, but Christ ascended to heaven, (acts 1) before He did He founded His church, on Peter, and the apostles, and their successors!
    Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 2:42 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 16:13
    Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20


    Major covenants!

    Adam:
    (Marriage covenant)

    Noah:
    (Family covenant)

    Abraham:
    (Tribal covenant)

    Moses:
    (National covenant)

    Jesus Christ:
    (Universal covenant)

    New and eternal covenant founded by Jesus Christ! Matt 16:18

    Universal (Catholic) Jn 1:29 Jn 3:16
    World universal

    1 Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
     
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    Kingdom of God, kingdom of Heaven, same thing different descriptors. Wherever Heaven is, that is where God's Kingdom is. And it is coming to earth in our near future. (Revelation 21)
     
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    Davy Well-Known Member

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    Nope, not it. There is NO Scripture written anywhere that says Peter was to inherit the throne of David! ONLY Jesus Christ is to inherit the throne of David. You are reaching, and left the building.

    Furthermore, David's throne is a LITERAL PHYSICAL throne here on earth. It is not some imaginary keys. I'm speaking of something that one can physically touch.
     
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