Has no reference to Israel, he who believes and is baptized shall be saved, only reference is to those being saved
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Has no reference to Israel, he who believes and is baptized shall be saved, only reference is to those being saved
the mosaic covenant was for Israel, a national covenant, the new covenant is universal (catholic)
Major covenants!
Adam:
(Marriage covenant)
Noah:
(Family covenant)
Abraham:
(Tribal covenant)
Moses:
(National covenant)
Jesus Christ:
(Universal covenant)
New and eternal covenant founded by Jesus Christ! Matt 16:18
Universal (Catholic)
World universal
Jn 1:29 lamb of God who takes way the sins of the world
Jn 3:16 for God so loved the world
1 Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
101G
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ERROR, Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"
Acts 1:4 "And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me."
Acts 8:1 "And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles."
they went, ......
YIKES!PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
Ziggy
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Not so,
Abraham is of the line of Shem, firstborn of Noah.
Abraham has 2 sons. Isaac (covenant) and Ishmael (blessing) .
It's funny, Ishmael is actually the circumcised. They was cut off by not keeping the outward cicumcision.
Both Abraham and Ishmael were circumcised the same day. Abraham was 99 and Ishmael was 13.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Rom 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
Rom 3:2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
Oracles: a brief utterance, a divine oracle (doubtless because oracles were generally brief)
in the NT, the words or utterances of God
of the contents of the Mosaic law
So the Jews got the "letter" of the law, while others who walk by the spirit and in faith have the law written in their hearts.
Nevertheless. The Jews and Gentiles all meet at the center. Jesus Christ. Amen
Hugs
no now in the new covenant church
Lk 2:30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;
32 A light to the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
Lk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. ( catholic universal)
Lk 2:31 prepared before the face of all (catholic) people
The new covenant was not made with Abraham....it was made with the house of Israel and Judah Jeremiah 31:31
God made covenant with Abraham in Genesis 15:18 Genesis 17:2-11
Acts 8 the eunuch was Israel?
And how did he know about water baptism if Philip preached Jesus? Faith alone Christ alone grace alone right?
Look at Mark 16:15 Jesus was speaking to the eleven apostles...they were to go into the world...not us
If Mark 16:16 is for us than so is Mark 16:17-18...all of these signs must therefore be seen...these signs are not seen in the church
I do not see how these questions pertain to my comments below:
Look at Mark 16:15 Jesus was speaking to the eleven apostles...they were to go into the world...not us
If Mark 16:16 is for us than so is Mark 16:17-18...all of these signs must therefore be seen...these signs are not seen in the church
Nonetheless, The new covenant is not the church. The new covenant is found in Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Ezekiel 36:24-28 and pertains to Israel
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediatorbetween God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
all men!
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
thru baptism of course
For there is one God, and one mediatorbetween God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
all men!
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
thru baptism of course
Ziggy
Well-Known Member
Matt 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
where’s the other children here?
is James etc going to save us?
where’s the other children here?
is James etc going to save us?
Context of Jn 3:5 “born again”
John1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (John prepared the way by baptism)
John 2:6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. (Old covenant prefiguring of baptism, purification from sin)(His disciples believed because the ever Virgin mother of God interceded Jn 2:11)
John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (Baptism)
John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.(Baptism)
John 4:4 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.
Born again means Baptism!
—————
Becoming a Disciple by baptism!
Matt 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
John 4:4 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Romans 6:3
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
(Born again by baptism)
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Spirit.
1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark none were saved, outside the church none are saved)
John1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (John prepared the way by baptism)
John 2:6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. (Old covenant prefiguring of baptism, purification from sin)(His disciples believed because the ever Virgin mother of God interceded Jn 2:11)
John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (Baptism)
John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.(Baptism)
John 4:4 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.
Born again means Baptism!
—————
Becoming a Disciple by baptism!
Matt 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
John 4:4 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Romans 6:3
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
(Born again by baptism)
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Spirit.
1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark none were saved, outside the church none are saved)
Ziggy
Well-Known Member
Something about those 6 water pots...
they washed their hands and feet in them.. for purifying themselves.
Yup..
I think Jesus give them some of their own medicine when he poured water in and they took out and drank from the dregs of it..
mm mm..
Do I have an evil eye??
Why I hear Jesus giving people back exactly what they deserve... in a nice way??
That eternal fountain of living water is in himself. I'm not so sure what was in them pots.
Hugs
they washed their hands and feet in them.. for purifying themselves.
Yup..
I think Jesus give them some of their own medicine when he poured water in and they took out and drank from the dregs of it..
mm mm..
Do I have an evil eye??
Why I hear Jesus giving people back exactly what they deserve... in a nice way??
That eternal fountain of living water is in himself. I'm not so sure what was in them pots.
Hugs
In Acts 1:4 the apostles were to wait in Jerusalem for the power of the Spirit for the tribulation (Acts 1:8 Luke 24:49)ERROR, Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"
Acts 1:4 "And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me."
Acts 8:1 "And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles."
they went, ......
PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
In Acts 8:1 the apostles stayed in Jerusalem in obedience to Luke 24:47....they were to start in Jerusalem then go to the nations. The apostles did not go into Judaea, and Samaria as commanded in Acts 1:8 and in fact they abandoned their commands in Galatians 2:9
