QUOTE (savedbygrace57 @ Mar 10 2009, 12:06 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70502
Jesus believed in it too..matt 23:33Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?and its eternal damnation..mk 3:But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.Do you believe Jesus words or NO ?
I agree Jesus Himself taught eternal damnation.Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:CM, is right to say that the Lake of Fire was created for Satan not man, but she is wrong to say that men will not suffer for eternity.Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.QUOTE (Christian Mystic @ Mar 10 2009, 12:53 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70504
I believe that the doctrines of eternal torments and eternal destruction are twin sisters. Each depicts a God who looses 99% of his most prized possession, ultimately relegating the Gospel to defeat.
If Jesus death only saved one person then it would have been worth it to Him. He offers salvation to all men, and those that end up in hell chose hell by rejecting Christ.Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.Luke 128 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:9 But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God. QUOTE (Christina @ Mar 10 2009, 04:05 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70528
There is no burning forever as Jordan has said its a lie of Men who wrongly believed they had to use fear to control men before they would believe in God
When you say it is a lie of ''men'' to use ''fear'' to control, do you mean men like Jesus Christ Himself?Luke 124 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
Jesus believed in it too..matt 23:33Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?and its eternal damnation..mk 3:But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.Do you believe Jesus words or NO ?
I agree Jesus Himself taught eternal damnation.Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:CM, is right to say that the Lake of Fire was created for Satan not man, but she is wrong to say that men will not suffer for eternity.Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.QUOTE (Christian Mystic @ Mar 10 2009, 12:53 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70504
I believe that the doctrines of eternal torments and eternal destruction are twin sisters. Each depicts a God who looses 99% of his most prized possession, ultimately relegating the Gospel to defeat.
If Jesus death only saved one person then it would have been worth it to Him. He offers salvation to all men, and those that end up in hell chose hell by rejecting Christ.Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.Luke 128 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:9 But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God. QUOTE (Christina @ Mar 10 2009, 04:05 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70528
There is no burning forever as Jordan has said its a lie of Men who wrongly believed they had to use fear to control men before they would believe in God
When you say it is a lie of ''men'' to use ''fear'' to control, do you mean men like Jesus Christ Himself?Luke 124 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.