The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

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quietthinker

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Where did I ever... claim that flesh man is immortal?

You need to STOP TRYING TO PUT YOUR STUPID WORDS in other people's mouths.

Look at quietthinker's words above, NO EVIDENCE AT ALL TO BACK UP HIS PERSONAL ATTACK AGAINST ME. His doing that is a mark of a CHARLATAN, A DECEIVER, A LIAR.
The tragedy is you don't understand the implications of your own words. You do not realise that the evidence comes from your own pen!
 

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#1 - Jerusalem ABOVE is not in the lowest parts of the earth.

Just out of curiosity, where do you say Abraham's Bosom is or was?

#2 - Revelation is CLEAR = Jerusalem on earth is the location of spiritual Sodom and Egypt

Verse?

#3 - The earth that contains the blood of the saints is worldwide...

You are contradicting yourself. How can the woman that contains the blood inside of her be both earth *and* Jerusalem at the same time?

Revelation 17:18 - "And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth."

You need to reconcile the verses, not just make a claim without any proof.

#4 - Therefore the Capital City of the earth is modern day Jerusalem/Israel.

The 'center of the world' eh?

Ezekiel 5:5 - The Sovereign LORD said, "Look at Jerusalem. I put her at the center of the world, with other countries all around her."

Anyhow, I made this thread to go into more detail if you are interested:

 

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The 2 witnesses are the Church and the Holy Spirit. The Candlesticks and olive trees. Witnesses before God on all the earth. That said, Revelation is over, we are waiting for Christ now. It's all done.
That could be, but I propose that according to scripture and by the Holy Spirit of God, the "two anointed ones" (Zech. 4:14), being John the Baptist (6 mos.) and Jesus (3.0 yrs.), were the Two Witnesses of Rev.

They were a joint ministry for 1260 days/42 mos.
 
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That could be, but I propose that according to scripture and by the Holy Spirit of God, the "two anointed ones" (Zech. 4:14), being John the Baptist (6 mos.) and Jesus (3.0 yrs.), were the Two Witnesses of Rev.

They were a joint ministry for 1260 days/42 mos.
I said "The 2 witnesses are the Church and the Holy Spirit. The Candlesticks and olive trees. Witnesses before God on all the earth. That said, Revelation is over, we are waiting for Christ now. It's all done."

In Revelation 1, Jesus has in His right hand 7 stars and and John saw 7 lampstands. Jesus says the lampstands are the churches. Revelation 11:4 says these (witnesses) are the two olive trees and two lampstands. Lampstands are churches. Olive trees produce olive oil, the anointing oil.
1 Samuel 16:13 -Then Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the midst of his brothers; and the Spirit of the Lord came upon David from that day forward. So Samuel arose and went to Ramah.
 
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IMO:
The two witnesses (Revelation 11:3) are perhaps Enoch and Elijah, neither of whom ever died (Genesis 5:24, 2Kings 2:11). They apparently oversee the rebuilding of the Jewish temple.

They are compared to Zerubbabel (governor) and Jeshua (high priest), who likewise supervised the rebuilding of the Jewish temple in times past (Ezra 5:2).

Jesus similarly is prophet, priest, king, and he will supervise completion of the future rebuilding of the temple (Zechariah 6:12).
 
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