The unknown single most important thing to be sure to know if you meet a JW.

[PS95]

Not sure what you mean here, @TheHC. The death of an unbeliever is not paid for by their own death. There is no payment for the sin of an unbeliever unless that unbeliever becomes saved by believing and receiving Christ as the Lord and Savior. Then the blood of Jesus cleanses them from sin. Sin is only atoned for through Jesus' death and resurrection. No one is able to be cleansed from sin through Christ's blood without that person being saved by grace and also through faith.

What she is speaking about there, is those who never heard the JW "good news"-- who have died before hearing the JW and becoming a JW. (since our gospel ended in 1914 when Jesus returned invisibly and chose them as best church)

Aside from those people.. YES, JWs do teach that their deaths pays for their own sins. NOT Jesus' blood.*
And it does not matter what evil they've done here while alive since dying pays for their sins. They will get an auto-resurrection with no sins.
They do not read Romans 6. They just pluck 2 partial verses from the chapter where Paul is speaking about our new lives NOW in Christ. They say it is all about our physical deaths not dying with Christ.

I just wanted you to be clear, Angelina. I'm sure TheHC or Aunty Jane or Keiw or the other JWs will be happy to explain further.

 

[Angelina]

I just wanted you to be clear, Angelina. I'm sure TheHC or Aunty Jane or Keiw or the other JWs will be happy to explain further.

I will be looking forward to their posts here.

 

[Debp]

if you read Matthew 12:22-32 and see the context you should see that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is when you attribute things to Satan that are done by the Holy Spirit instead such as when Jesus cast demons out of people. The Pharisees accused him of doing that by the power of Beelzebub, which is Satan and after that is when He talked about the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

The above is what I believe to be blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

 

[Debp]

I agree with you that this forum is awful. . Many who say they are Christian it seems they are not. There is a lot of venom in this place and should not be over non-salvational things. They are walking in the flesh. I never see this behavior among true believers in my personal experience. I'm planning on leaving here soon because of the way it is. I gave it 2 chances.

I agree this forum is wild. I go to another forum...if members don't agree with the statement of faith, they are put into a separate area so as not to mislead others.

I hope you won't leave but I can understand your feelings.

 

[PS95]

I agree this forum is wild. I go to another forum...if members don't agree with the statement of faith, they are put into a separate area so as not to mislead others.

I hope you won't leave but I can understand your feelings.

Thank you Debp
I appreciate that.
TheHC was going after a member there who had posted to me that he is having some questions about the fighting on these boards. Right on this very thread he said it. So they are reading it! But hiding from it.
JWs seek people out who they see as vulnerable. They even ambulance chase- and will just show up at a home where someone recently died by reading the OBITUARIES.
I am not going to stay much longer. It's too much being the only one who is looking out for their lies. They should not be allowed here. But they see it differently because they have no idea of the actual evil that is hidden in this religion. They only know what they've heard. They have never been up close like I have.
They are VERY secretive. JWs have a thing called, "theocratic warfare" and what that means is it is OK to LIE to protect their ORG. They abuse the story of Rahab for that one.
People are unaware of these things. "They act so nice"- they say. or they sure know the bible. HA! No they shred the bible. And they are only nice when you are looking. Nothing worse to live with than someone under the JW spell. They have to take classes once a week to learn how to act -and what to say- and how to say -it and how to bait you...and what to say if you say this or that. It is scripted. That's why they sound alike.
I'm sorry for this post. I have had it with them.
My parents died in that false religion. The rest of the family is under their spell. Its awful beyond all words. I am not responsible for who they hurt on here anymore. I have done my job. It's time for the moderators to decide what they want to do. Maybe I will catch you on the other site. Msg me with the name, ok?