Just caught that,
But it does say, that God is light
For example,
1 John 1:5 God is light
John 16:27 I came out from God.
The phrase "Light from Light" appears in the Nicene Creed too doesnt it?
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But it does say, that God is light
For example,
1 John 1:5 God is light
John 16:27 I came out from God.
The phrase "Light from Light" appears in the Nicene Creed too doesnt it?
I probably dont read all the profound underlying words, I would be boring for you to talk to that way.
The same word can have different meanings in different contexts. Not every light is the same as every other light.
For example the light of new knowledge about the term Logos is not the same as the light you get from a street lamp.
We have God IS light, and God spake the word, "let there be" and there was would be by Jesus Christ, wouldn't it?
Ephes 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ
You must have added this in.
Well I figured we were talking spiritual comparisons and a street lamp wouldnt really be a consideration here
soberxp
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When people starts to use "logos" instead of the "word"? I thought it better use "road" instead of the "word".
Taken
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The Word made flesh
Inanutshell…
A Godly MYSTERY earthly manKIND overlooks.
God CREATED A manKind of Earthly Terrestrial Being.
Then
God MADE the CREATED Being to have ABILITIES…
Then
God OFFERED the CREATED manKIND of Being…
A
Continual MAKING which ENDS in the manKIND of Being to BECOME in Gods Likeness…
…
GOD… Add an “O”… GOOD.
Perfected, wholly, holy, eternally alive WITH God.
God Already Knows the Outcome, that which EVERY manKIND of Being WILL freely CHOOSE to accept His Offering OR Not…
AND
God has Already Prepared the Destiny of EVERY manKIND of Being.
Some manKIND of Beings Have MADE their FREEWILL Choices… many have not.
Gen 1:
[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 2:
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Gen 5:
[1] This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
The Creation is accomplished, without mans agreement…
the Making continues, dependent upon mans agreement…
Glory to God,
Taken
Inanutshell…
A Godly MYSTERY earthly manKIND overlooks.
God CREATED A manKind of Earthly Terrestrial Being.
Then
God MADE the CREATED Being to have ABILITIES…
Then
God OFFERED the CREATED manKIND of Being…
A
Continual MAKING which ENDS in the manKIND of Being to BECOME in Gods Likeness…
…
GOD… Add an “O”… GOOD.
Perfected, wholly, holy, eternally alive WITH God.
God Already Knows the Outcome, that which EVERY manKIND of Being WILL freely CHOOSE to accept His Offering OR Not…
AND
God has Already Prepared the Destiny of EVERY manKIND of Being.
Some manKIND of Beings Have MADE their FREEWILL Choices… many have not.
Gen 1:
[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 2:
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Gen 5:
[1] This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
The Creation is accomplished, without mans agreement…
the Making continues, dependent upon mans agreement…
Glory to God,
Taken
It would demonstrate that not every use of the word "light" must refer to the same thing.
And in the same way, the created light in Genesis is not about the same thing as in verse "God is light", for example.
Behold
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Real Christians dont elevate the Nicene Creed over the word of God....unless they are deceived.
Why is that?
Its because the "creed" has this in it that is deception.
""""""And I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church."""""""
See, God does not "believe in the MaryCult".......and neither does anyone else, unless they are deceived by the MaryCult.
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Taken
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Pray FOR the human saints ON Earth.
Pray FOR Your enemies ON Earth.
Pray TO God, IN Jesus Name, ( the Godly Appointed Intercessor. )
Pray TO any other thing is Idolatry.
Bowing Down TO IS Worship.
Glory to God,
Taken
Behold
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Taken
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Its only one extra letter, like if you click on the word and use the orginal words type thing, I dont have time for that.
I'll post an example
Why not just compare spiritual truths and not get so hung up on the words, for example
Deut 32:31 For their rock H6697 is not as our Rock H6697, even our enemies themselves being judges.
Which rock is the most truest rock
I mean we know HE is and OURS is not THEIRS but the word in both is tsuwr
So I often find it is a waste, of time, and think, man....
WHERE IS THE SCRIBE??
(hath not God made foolish, sort of thing lol)Amen taken!
I woke up this morning thinking about something I had saved and how I would approach it there was your post!
I always thought this was interesting, he appears to press on these three things he does here
He says concerning the earth
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
He says concerning everyone called by His name
Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
Says he formed the earth in Isaiah 45:18
In the beginning, it tells us,
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
By the seventh day he rested from all his work, and only these two are mentioned
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work
which God created and made.
There are some other things I was looking at but he does appear to mention "formed, made, and created" in the same pictures with both the earth and man.
Then after the days part of creation, we see God "formed" the man (dust) "made" the woman (from side) and then after the blood of Abel is theres this other recap and Him calling their name both Adam
Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Just as we might be created in Christ, in the new man
Psalm 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.
Psalm 102:18 This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the LORD.
Just noticing various paterns I think are interesting when you examine them.
I think I posted another one of these (but differently) somewhere on this forum, so I figured I would post a picture of the Lamb
comparing between pictures
In Abraham,
Abraham places the wood for burnt offering on his only H3173 Son
Isaac asks His Father
Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?
Abraham knew
Gen 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering
Seeing Jesus, who was before Abraham as
Romans 13:8 The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Who come into this world
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him,
and saith,
Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world
Showing the same in God the Father and His Son
Who places the wood (or cross) upon his only begotten G3439 Son
And so similarly shows God the Father withholds not His own Son
Romans 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all,
As Abraham did not withhold (Gen 22:12) his only H3173 Son
And so God spared not His
John 3:16 God gave his only begotten G3439 Son
Which also shows us in all the same
"The law having shadow of the good things to come and not the very image of things"
These all died in faith, seeing them afar off, as Abraham did
Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises
offered up his only begotten G3439 son,
Heb 11:18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:
Heb 11:19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.
A similitude of Jesus Christ, Abraham's seed
Acts 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly (see what I did there)
Abraham received his own Son (Isaac) back in a figure,
But he (Jesus) whom God raised up was shewed openly
The latter picture showing faith in the operation of God, as it pertains to God's ability to raise the dead.
Even the resurrection
comparing between pictures
In Abraham,
Abraham places the wood for burnt offering on his only H3173 Son
Isaac asks His Father
Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?
Abraham knew
Gen 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering
Seeing Jesus, who was before Abraham as
Romans 13:8 The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Who come into this world
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him,
and saith,
Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world
Showing the same in God the Father and His Son
Who places the wood (or cross) upon his only begotten G3439 Son
And so similarly shows God the Father withholds not His own Son
Romans 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all,
As Abraham did not withhold (Gen 22:12) his only H3173 Son
And so God spared not His
John 3:16 God gave his only begotten G3439 Son
Which also shows us in all the same
"The law having shadow of the good things to come and not the very image of things"
These all died in faith, seeing them afar off, as Abraham did
Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises
offered up his only begotten G3439 son,
Heb 11:18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:
Heb 11:19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.
A similitude of Jesus Christ, Abraham's seed
Acts 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly (see what I did there)
Abraham received his own Son (Isaac) back in a figure,
But he (Jesus) whom God raised up was shewed openly
The latter picture showing faith in the operation of God, as it pertains to God's ability to raise the dead.
Even the resurrection
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Abraham (the Father) who laid the wood (cross) on Isaac (only Son ) walked together
to the place he would be sacrificed
Before Christ suffers, he assures them that he is not alone because the Father is with him
John 16:32 Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me.
The cross in Abraham, showing the Father is with his Son
Gen 22:6 And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together.
The knife is in Abraham's hand, or in the Father's power
and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together.
Just as the scriptures foresee an awakened sword against his shepherd
Zech 13:7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered
Jesus understood that this sword was meant for him in the context of going to the cross
Mark 14:27 And Jesus saith unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd
and the sheep shall be scattered.
Considering,
If the knife in Abraham's hand or even the sword that is awakened against Jesus (even by His Father) is the same in the Fathers hand, wouldn't be equated to being delivered into the hands of the wicked,
As Peter confirms here it says
Acts 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain
They (the wicked) being used as a tool in the Father's hand for his own purposes (whether delivered into their hands or from them)
Psalm 17:13 Arise, O LORD, disappoint him, cast him down: deliver my soul from the wicked, which is thy sword
He was delivered into their hands
Luke 9:44 Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. (Acts 2:23)
So the wicked, which is thy sword makes more sense looking at each place
Zech 13:7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts
I was just looking at this one, I never really examined the knife sword and thought much about it, they meant it for evil, but God for good.
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to the place he would be sacrificed
Before Christ suffers, he assures them that he is not alone because the Father is with him
John 16:32 Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me.
The cross in Abraham, showing the Father is with his Son
Gen 22:6 And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together.
The knife is in Abraham's hand, or in the Father's power
and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together.
Just as the scriptures foresee an awakened sword against his shepherd
Zech 13:7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered
Jesus understood that this sword was meant for him in the context of going to the cross
Mark 14:27 And Jesus saith unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd
and the sheep shall be scattered.
Considering,
If the knife in Abraham's hand or even the sword that is awakened against Jesus (even by His Father) is the same in the Fathers hand, wouldn't be equated to being delivered into the hands of the wicked,
As Peter confirms here it says
Acts 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain
They (the wicked) being used as a tool in the Father's hand for his own purposes (whether delivered into their hands or from them)
Psalm 17:13 Arise, O LORD, disappoint him, cast him down: deliver my soul from the wicked, which is thy sword
He was delivered into their hands
Luke 9:44 Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. (Acts 2:23)
So the wicked, which is thy sword makes more sense looking at each place
Zech 13:7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts
I was just looking at this one, I never really examined the knife sword and thought much about it, they meant it for evil, but God for good.
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Taken
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Amen…excellent post.
Earth was always intended for ManKinds habitat. A beginning with a glimpse, “Eden” of Heaven… Man created and Made in Gods Likeness… And FREEWILL… And the Oops…
Bad influence…Bad choices….
But, But, But… an Offering to Mankind…to Become “Made” in Gods Likeness…for any man who desires to Take the Offering.
Holy Praise to our Great God!
God bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken
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