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A Miami area travel agent once booked a Cuban immigrant on a vacation to Los Angeles for a family visit. The agent told him that it was only about a 500 mile trip so the man happily got on the road and after he'd driven the 500 miles he realized that Los Angeles was no where in sight. He stopped in Tallahassee to check his map and discovered to his amazement that Los Angeles was still 2,000 miles away. Furious, he called the travel agent and screamed at him mercilessly.

“Oh, I'm so sorry, sir,” he replied, “I forgot to tell you that there's a 2,000 mile “gap” between the 499th mile and the 500th.”

As unbelievable as this sounds, this is exactly the same ludicrous, ridiculous, incredulous logic that is used by many sincere but confused Christians to explain why Daniel's 70th week, which immediately followed the 69th week 2,000 years ago, is still a future “last seven years of tribulation” in which the Antichrist will arise. This idea originated not from Scripture, but from the 16th century Jesuit Counter-Reformation which sole purpose was to overthrow the Protestant Reformation and its claim that the Papal power in Rome was the Antichrist. By means of both Jesuit Futurism and Jesuit Preterism (which teaches Antichrist arose in the first century), the Roman Catholic church wants the finger of accusation pointed to the past, to the future, anywhere but at the Papacy.

  • God said He would give the Antediluvians 120 years to repent and 120 years they got.

  • God said there would be seven years of plenty in Egypt and seven years there were.

  • God said that there would be seven years of famine in Egypt and seven years there were.

  • God said Israel would wander 40 years in the desert and 40 years they did.

  • God said through Elijah there would be no rain for 3 ½ years and for 3 ½ years it was dry.

  • God said that the Babylonian captivity would last 70 years and 70 years it did.
You will search the rest of the Bible in vain to find just one occasion where God stuck rubber bands in His time prophecies to make them stretch down to the end of time.

It was Jesus Christ Who confirmed the covenant of grace for seven years, first through His 3 ½ ministry and then through the ministry of those who followed Him (Hebrews 2:3 KJV). It was Jesus Christ Who was cut off in the midst of the 70th week and by that True Sacrifice caused the sacrifices and oblations to cease to have merit in God's sight (Matthew 27:51 KJV). It was Jesus Christ Who allowed prince Titus and his Roman army to plant their Sun God emblazoned abominations in the holy ground outside the city walls just before desolating the city and the sanctuary because of the Jews' stubborn rejection of Him, though He plead for them be gathered to Himself as a hen her chicks (Matthew 23:37-38 KJV). Jesus Christ, not Antichrist!

Daniel's 70 Weeks had such power to convince Jews that Jesus was the Messiah that the rabbis placed a curse on anyone who would seek to find Messiah in the writings of Daniel (http://www.present-truth.org/1-Jesus/2300days.pdf). In Revelation 14, God calls Christians who are yet in “Babylon” (religious confusion) to “come out of her, My people” and one greatest examples of that confusion is to make the Antichrist the subject of Old Testament Messianic prophecies of Jesus Christ, our beloved, merciful Savior.
 

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Gaps

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The other aspect is while certain prophetic passages present an orderly timeline of events in the order they occur, having two events in the correct order does not negate other events from occurring in between. That is, there can be gaps in prophesy. This brings up another aspect of prophecy that makes it difficult for the Western trained mind to understand. There is no one definitive inclusive set of prophecy that contains all the subject matter completely in one concise chronology. Were it to, then it would invalidate another Biblical principle: to search out God.

Some theologians have alluded to God as hiding Himself, because were God to fill in all the areas of questions, the reader would not have to seek Him out. This is no more apparent than the subject of prophesy. While there is prophecy of the Messiah, and of the end time Judgment both on Earth and in Heaven, the majority opinion is that there is no mention of the Church age in the Old Testament (however, this book will present a verse in refutation, a hidden jewel in prophecy). This has been called one of the mysteries of the Bible revealed with the New Testament Gospel. Likewise, other significant events from Old Testament prophecy as they pertain to the Christian in terms of importance, like the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, are also conspicuously absent in obvious terms.

That the Bible does not mention certain pertinent events in no way invalidates the Bible as truth. Western man is trained that omission of a fact is a commission of perjury. In our culture, not telling something is akin to lying about it. We must be ready when examining the Bible to allow that had God spelled it all out, there would be no need for the faith of Abraham. As Deuteronomy 4:29 says: “But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.” Had God filled in all the gaps, we would not have to seek any answers, and our yearning for knowledge and truth of God would cease.
To see how this gap in prophesy can exist, we have an excellent example in the New Testament when Jesus began his ministry. In Jesus’ time, it was customary for the adult men to read from the Torah, and to do so in turn covering the whole of the law and the prophets from beginning to end on their appointed day. Starting Jesus’ ministry, Luke gives this account:

LK 4:16 He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. And he stood up to read. 17 The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
LK 4:18 "The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind,
to release the oppressed,

LK 4:19 to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."
LK 4:20 Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him, 21 and he began by saying to them, "Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing."

The question remains: Why Jesus stop in mid sentence? (there were no divisions of chapter and verse then). Isaiah 61:1-3 reads in full as:

He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim freedom for the captives
and release from darkness for the prisoners,

ISA 61:2 to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor
and the day of vengeance of our God,
to comfort all who mourn,

ISA 61:3 and provide for those who grieve in Zion--
to bestow on them a crown of beauty
instead of ashes,
the oil of gladness
instead of mourning,
and a garment of praise
instead of a spirit of despair.


The first answer is that as Messiah, we can now see how Jesus fulfilled the prophecy that started in Isaiah 61:1, ending with the favor of His death and resurrection as a gift of salvation for us. But the day of vengeance of our God was not proclaimed at that time, because the day of vengeance whereby God judges the world is still to come. So in one verse, we have two events, the year of the Lord’s favor and the day of vengeance separated by at this point almost two thousand years. Until the fulfillment of the gospel and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, this prophecy had escaped the proper assignment of time by the Pharisees of Jesus’ time, and they had negated the gap between ministry and conquering and were looking for a hero and not a sacrifice.

So while the Bible does go in forward motion in the text, there can be large gaps of time even in a single verse. A large part of prophecy has gaps. This is what makes it so difficult. As pervasive as gaps are, I have come to refer to God as being the God of the Gaps, because God can span large gaps of time in prophecy.

However, in viewing the gaps, there is a way of looking at either end as having something in common, a theme to the passage. Thus, in spanning a gap, the point of the narrative is expressed in both sides of the gap in time, in analogous fashion, as even a rope foot bridge spans a chasm linking two cliffs. Here in Isaiah, that theme is the visitation of the LORD on earth. The first time, or advent, is Christ’s ministry, but the second advent of Christ will be as one who administers God’ wrath. The chasm is the Church age in between. Viewed in this way, there are two very different events that line up one after another, and using the example a bridge between cliffs, God’s perspective moves from one cliff to the other and crosses the chasm without being in it, or mentioning it.

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As orderly Western Post-Renaissance schooled people, it is considered an actual error to omit facts. Not saying a foot bridge crosses a chasm could be considered to be a material fact, but in the analogy, it depends where the vision is centered. If a perspective is taken not to look down, then going from start to finish only focuses on the objective. In this way, neglecting to mention the chasm, relates to the focus, or theme, and the depth of the chasm is immaterial or even the need of the bridge.

Certain facts are important to our culture as well and when left out, like Jesus’ exact age, or His whereabouts beforehand, become an irresistible compunction for some to answer, even with conjecture. But to the first century culture, exact age was not as relevant as Jesus’ message, nor was His upbringing outside of one account of His youthful teaching which was pertinent to His character. With no cultural need to answer the standard newspaper questions; “who, what, when, where, why and how,” the authors of the books containing prophecy had no need to fill all the gaps. Neither does God have a Western Post-Renaissance perspective. In fact, God hides Himself and the reader is asked to seek out God in Scripture, just as David discerned a personal God through the study of the Law.

But an omission of a fact is not a commission of an error to the pre-Western cultures. Thus, it is incumbent upon the reader to shed accumulated prejudices and accept the nuances of Hebrew, Gospel and Apocalyptic writings in the same spirit in which they were written. The reader will have to adopt various conventions common to an ancient and separate culture and one of those in story-telling was the lack of continuity in how the message is presented.

While gaps can be difficult to see immediately, a premise of this book is these gaps can be identified and filled by correlation of various specific and unique events in prophecy in order to present prophecy in a manner to which the modern reader is more accustomed. When gaps are identified, one of their characteristics will be a common theme linking both sides. The starting point and final objective about a gap will be listed in chronological order, so their study will be helpful in establishing an overall sequence of prophecy. Identifying gaps can untangle complicated passages that have eluded interpreters as has happened in the past where too many events are compiled on top of each other that should ordinarily be seen as occurring in separate times.
 

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Daniel chapter nine: This chapter lays down an extremely important timeline: the seventy ‘sevens’ in Daniel 9:24-27. The first verse is examined in detail in chapter four of this book as it delves into God’s purpose in having the seventy ‘sevens.’ Through word study of the verbs in the first verse of Gabriel’s announcement, Daniel 9:24 reflects the centrality of Christ in prophecy. Thus as a foundation for the Heavenly role in the end-times, this verse reveals God’s unfolding plan for salvation. The key concept here though involves the seventy ‘sevens.’
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LEV 26:18 “If after all this you will not listen to me, I will punish you for your sins seven times over.”

The seventy ‘sevens’ fulfills God’s Law. Israel disobeyed God’s laws in not letting the land lay fallow for seventy Sabbath years. God then imposed the resting of the land by taking Israel out of the land for the seventy years in Babylonian captivity. As Daniel is reflecting on Jeremiah’s prophecies which spoke of Israel’s transgression and their coming captivity, Gabriel reveals the consequence for their sin in accordance with this Law. In doing so though, Gabriel gives a preliminary summation and then launches into the detailed account of the one ‘seven.’ This repetition of the end suggests a parallel construction within these three verses. At the end of Daniel 9:26, Gabriel says:

The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.

In the next verse, Gabriel "backs up" so to speak and covers the end which comes like a flood in more detail:

27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on wing, he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

Notice the repetition of end in verse 26 and the end that is decreed in verse 27. This indicates a verse that is in parallel to the previous one because of repeated events. Stating a conclusion which reveals the end before getting there in detail is a convention of that time and culture. Jesus does this as well right around the same junction in time with the Olivet Discourse. He states the end will come in Mt 24:14, then "backs up" so to speak in linear time and gives a more detailed account of the end-time events. Verse 26 and verse 27 are connected by their respective ends. Both then convey different information about the end-time laid on top of the other. Verse 26 is general, while verse 27 is specific. Thus within chapter nine, Gabriel uses parallel construction to lay out the end of God’s plan.

The three verses of Daniel 9:25-27 are important to any eschatology and as an invaluable support to the sequence-of-events model; several issues of exegesis require examination. Depending on how the words are interpreted can lead to wildly different conclusions so some word study is required as well. Issues addressed here concern:
  1. the coming of the Messiah,
  2. the cutting off of the Anointed One,
  3. evidence within the Scripture for separating the one ‘seven’ from the sixty-two ‘sevens’ with a gap in time between the two, and
  4. the nature of “confirming” the covenant with many
DA 9:25 "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven 'sevens,' and sixty-two sevens.'

(1.) The seven and the sixty-two ‘sevens’ describe the first part of the timeline. The start is revealed as the issuing of the decree to restore Jerusalem. Unfortunately this extremely important date is not totally clear. There are then three instances which Jesus could be said to have arrived:
  1. The first is his birth which the Magi observed.
  2. The second instance would be the start of Jesus’ Ministry.
  3. The third would be the Triumphal Entry which Jesus stressed as important:
LK 19:40 "I tell you," he replied, "if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out."
  1. The first possibility might be found in the first decree of Cyrus the Great.
  2. The second possible date may be in the seventh year of Artaxerxes I around 457 B.C. This would put the coming of the Messiah as his baptism in A.D. 27 counting in straight solar years and would conform to Jesus being crucified around A.D. 31.
  3. The third possibility might be the commission of King Artaxerxes to Nehemiah in 446 B.C. The third seems too recent because that would push the coming of the Messiah to A.D. 38. However, if one counts in prophetic years (360 days per year as is used in Revelation) then the coming of the Messiah happens in early A.D. 31 which would coincide with Jesus' arrival on Palm Sunday.
So the problem is two-fold, finding the actual start date and then correctly calculating the years.

So far, none of the methods yields a date close to Christ’s birth, however, some Jewish and Christian scholars have set a terminus a quo, or beginning point in the reign of Cyrus which align with the Savior’s birth. (Know Therefore and Understand: A Biblical Explication of the First 69 Weeks of Daniel 9, by T. T. Schlegel.) The interesting fact that the Magi had determined His birth leaves one to wonder if they hadn’t used some method to arrive at Christ’s birth between 6 and 4 B.C. (Herod the Great, who ordered the infants in Bethlehem killed, has had his death corrected to having died in 4 B.C. which then necessitates that Jesus be born before A.D. 1 as initially set by Dionysius Exiguus.) One could allow that the Magi may have had some other prophecies of Daniel in Babylon that might explain their arrival being timed correctly. They may have used an additional celestial test such as conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn or eclipses of the moon, and Jupiter. Several such astrological signs occurred in this time period, but which one may have been interpreted as determining the Savior’s birth is not known. Despite how they came to determine Jesus’ birth, however, the sign they followed was in the heavens (sky) and the Gospel accounts testify that they did arrive.

While the fixing of dates is important in understanding the literal nature of prophecy’s fulfillment, however, from a sequence of events standpoint: any of the end dates rendered by the three possible starting points or which ever counting method is employed brings the timeline of Gabriel’s prophecy of the seven and sixty-two ‘sevens’ into the lifetime of Christ. The important aspect is after the sixty-two ‘sevens’ the Messiah is cut off. The word: after, 'ahar, a simple adverb, starting the quoted verse means sets the sequence for the Anointed One’s “cutting off” after Christ’s arrival. So no matter which date or method is used, the sequence of events is correctly set.

DAN 9:26a After the sixty-two `sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing…

(2.) The second matter requiring address concerns the verb “be cut off” because of the nature of how Christ’s ministry and crucifixion are interpreted in this verse and the next. The nominal usage of this verb, karat, can be as in to cut down with a woodcutter (Isa. 14:8). It also contains a “metaphorical meaning to root out, eliminate, remove, excommunicate or destroy by a violent act of man or nature” ―Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament p. 457. This certainly would include a description of a crucifixion. However, karat, can also be used in Daniel as it is in Genesis 15:18 to cut or make a covenant because of the slaughter of animals was a part of the covenant ritual ― (Speiser, Genesis, in AB, p. 112; BA 34:18) ibid. While the Hebrew language allows enough some latitude in the normal sense when applied to a person, seeing Christ’s crucifixion on the Cross in the literal sense of a violent act, the metaphorical sense of being destroyed by a violent act of man, and even in the theological sense of making a new Covenant with His shed Blood becomes an overwhelming fulfillment reality in all aspects of karat.

DAN 9:26b ...The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.

(3.) The nature of gaps in prophecy does not manifest itself in this passage. There is no readily apparent mirror image between the sixty-two and the one ‘seven’ which make up the respective parts to the gap as covered in chapter two. However, as the third concern to be addressed, the evidence in Gabriel’s message to Daniel reflects an insertion of a number of years between the sixty-two ‘sevens’ and the one ‘seven’ because of the three items listed.

The first was the cutting off of the Messiah. Whether it happened 30 some years after He came as in being born, more than three years after being baptized, or less than a week after the Triumphal Entry, some time goes by. In the last case, allowing for a few days would preserve the sense of consecutive ‘sevens’ and were it not for the mention of the next two events, disallowing a gap in Gabriel’s ‘sevens’ could legitimately be made. However, that is not the case.

The second event gives evidence within Gabriel’s prophecy for the insertion of a longer gap in time between the sixty-two and the one ‘seven’ than just a week. Gabriel correctly lists the destruction of the Temple in the sequence of events as occurring after the crucifixion. History confirms the fulfillment of this prophecy. The Temple was destroyed first by being set on fire by the zealots and then it was pulled down by the Romans under Titus in A.D. 70. This portion of the prophecy demonstrates a gap in time: The one ‘seven’ does not run currently with the sixty-two ‘sevens’ because there is no formula or multiple that allows anyone to stretch one ‘seven’ over the nearly four decades between the crucifixion Christ’s figurative temple and the destruction of the literal Temple in A.D. 70.

While this verse contains fulfilled prophecy which confounds the critic and also gives a definite time marker which shows the one ‘seven’ does not run concurrently to the sixty-two sevens; that is not the point in mentioning the destruction of the city and the sanctuary. The reason for the inclusion of this prophetic fact and the significance here is that this statement points to the future anti-Christ: He is of Roman descent. The verse doesn’t say Titus or any other ruler will destroy the city and the sanctuary, but the people will destroy the city and the sanctuary. In turn, the ruler who will come is identified as coming from these people. As the people were Roman soldiers, they were not necessarily Italian, but would be from the entire Roman Empire which included conquered Europe. Thus, this ruler, ‘who will come,’ will be out of this Roman kingdom in its larger extent.

A critic might suggest a Preterist solution in that Jesus said; “this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.” Thus they relegate much of God’s Wrath listed in the book of Revelation to the Roman’s conquest of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. While some would argue this fulfilled Jesus’ prophetic statement within the Olivet Discourse for “this generation,” taken within the context of His words, the counter argument would be that the events Jesus lists in His Olivet Discourse as to when He would return would be fulfilled within the generation that sees “these things.” Those things Jesus lists were not fulfilled in A.D. 70. However, two facts in Daniel 9:26 serve to disprove any stretching of the one ‘seven’ over nearly forty years. First of all, the conquest of the city is listed here as a precursor to the end, not the end itself. Secondly, because war continues after A.D.70, it refutes any notion that the first Jewish rebellion was in any sense the final conflict envisioned in prophecy, which is the third event.

The third event is not a single action as the first two, but shows the lengthening of time because wars continue. Were some confusion allowed with Jesus’ statement and the Preterist eschatological position so that prophecy was neatly concluded in the first century, the next sentence in Gabriel’s prophetic announcement cements the gap and extends it well past the first century. While Gabriel uses a then-common convention of giving a preliminary summation before going into greater detail as is the nature of parallel accounts, an important fact of his testimony is that “wars will continue until the end.” It is the continuation which stretches the gap past the first century and through every century since including the twenty-first. War will be a state of man’s existence until God puts an end to war at the end of the one ‘seven’ by waging war Himself and overcoming the world in the most literal sense at Armageddon.

Despite any assertion that God’s Kingdom has been ushered in with the Pentecost, Rome as a nation went on without missing a beat. The end of Nebuchadnezzar’s stature has not been realized yet. Wars have continued between nations just as Gabriel said yet the end will come quickly. Reading a continuation here is consistent with Jesus’ Olivet Discourse which speaks of wars and rumors of wars, nations rising up against nations, and kingdoms against kingdoms as being part of the birth pains but the end comes later. As a birth pain, this comes before the labor of the end which comes quickly. So even if God’s Kingdom began in a figurative sense with the spring festival of Pentecost and the first fruits of the Church there, it will be made literally complete at the fall festival of Harvest still to come at the end of the Church age.
Gabriel’s sequence of events which happen after the sixty-two ‘sevens;’ Christ’s crucifixion, the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70, and the two millennium of war which has followed -all point to a separation of time between the sixty-two ‘sevens’ and the one ‘seven.’ This can be portrayed graphically as presented below:

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The gap in the sevens spans the time of the Church. While some commentators say this period is overlooked by the prophets, a discernible reference for it can be found within the task of the Messiah in Daniel 9:24 and prophecy relating to the outpouring of God’s Spirit. This gap in time follows the very same gap identified in Isaiah 61:2. The gap in Daniel traverses the Messiah coming and then being cut off and then shifting to a time of desolations follows Isaiah 61:2 in parallel:

ISA 61:2 to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor
and the day of vengeance of our God,


Another parallel in the gap is found in the person of Jesus. The arrival of the Messiah starting at the end of the sixty-ninth week is not to be repeated until some point in the one week with his return to start the millennium period at the end of it as the rock that grows into a mountain and fills the whole land out of Daniel chapter two. The jump, from the first century to some time in the future in Daniel 9:26, is consistent with the last theme of the Messiah’s involvement and certainly inline with one of the subjects of Gabriel’s proclamation, being Christ.

Considering the aspect of “to bring in everlasting righteous” as also describing the time between the sixty-ninth and one week, there is no gap in Christ’s work for the entire order of the seventy weeks in Daniel 9:24 in one sense. But as to His physical presence, there certainly is a nearly two millennium span. To focus on the time when Christ is active on Earth, then Gabriel would naturally skip the interim period between the first and second coming of the Lord, and the detail listing in verses 9:25-27 certainly qualify from an earthbound perspective. The placement of the one ‘seven’ apart from the preceding two named periods follows the pattern of the people, the city and Christ as well.

Dan 9:27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on wing, he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

(4.) While there is an obsolete definition to “confirm” which fits with the meaning of the underlying Hebrew word gabar, (Strong’s 1396) the modern connotation is largely positive and lends readers to assume because of the linkage of “covenant,” that the actor confirming (a positive action) the covenant is Jesus. This is sometime buttressed with the theological argument from the book of Hebrews that ritual, legal sacrifice is no longer required for the Christian.

However, the Hebrew verb, while used for God’s strength as an adjective, misses the mark for Jesus’ New Covenant He made by laying His Life down. Gone in Jesus’ first Advent are all overtones of military might or strength in His Sacrifice. Furthermore, there is no theological basis for saying Jesus ever initiated a covenant which ran out of time in just seven years, prophetic, solar, or based on the Hebrew lunar calendar.

The Hebrew verb conjugation of gabar is in the third person singular. The person who does the action then reverts to the last person mentioned. That is found in the prince who will come. This future reference is the direct linkage to this future actor. This prince can be identified by the people who destroy the city and the sanctuary, which was a prophetic utterance from the oldest Daniel manuscript of the second century B.C. This was accomplished in A.D. 70 by the Romans in the first Jewish Revolt. This then aligns with the King of the North being the last of a long line of Roman rulers as Daniel 2 dictates. Some critics maintain the antecedent to the pronoun within gabar’s conjugation reverts back only to a subject of a sentence, which is the Messiah, but no such rule can be found in Hebrew grammar.

To reiterate the issues within Daniel chapter nine in closing, the coming of the Messiah occurred with Jesus’ first Advent. The cutting off of the Anointed One was fulfilled on the Cross after Christ came. Evidence within the Scripture separates the one ‘seven’ from the sixty-two ‘sevens’ with a gap in time between the two. This gap is ongoing as long as war continues. Finally the nature of “confirming” the covenant with many relegates it not to Jesus’ sacrifice, but to the other ruler who will come as identified by the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70.
 

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Marcus O'Reillius said:
Daniel chapter nine: This chapter lays down an extremely important timeline: the seventy ‘sevens’ in Daniel 9:24-27. The first verse is examined in detail in chapter four of this book as it delves into God’s purpose in having the seventy ‘sevens.’ Through word study of the verbs in the first verse of Gabriel’s announcement, Daniel 9:24 reflects the centrality of Christ in prophecy. Thus as a foundation for the Heavenly role in the end-times, this verse reveals God’s unfolding plan for salvation. The key concept here though involves the seventy ‘sevens.’
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LEV 26:18 “If after all this you will not listen to me, I will punish you for your sins seven times over.”

The seventy ‘sevens’ fulfills God’s Law. Israel disobeyed God’s laws in not letting the land lay fallow for seventy Sabbath years. God then imposed the resting of the land by taking Israel out of the land for the seventy years in Babylonian captivity. As Daniel is reflecting on Jeremiah’s prophecies which spoke of Israel’s transgression and their coming captivity, Gabriel reveals the consequence for their sin in accordance with this Law. In doing so though, Gabriel gives a preliminary summation and then launches into the detailed account of the one ‘seven.’ This repetition of the end suggests a parallel construction within these three verses. At the end of Daniel 9:26, Gabriel says:

The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.

In the next verse, Gabriel "backs up" so to speak and covers the end which comes like a flood in more detail:

27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on wing, he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

Notice the repetition of end in verse 26 and the end that is decreed in verse 27. This indicates a verse that is in parallel to the previous one because of repeated events. Stating a conclusion which reveals the end before getting there in detail is a convention of that time and culture. Jesus does this as well right around the same junction in time with the Olivet Discourse. He states the end will come in Mt 24:14, then "backs up" so to speak in linear time and gives a more detailed account of the end-time events. Verse 26 and verse 27 are connected by their respective ends. Both then convey different information about the end-time laid on top of the other. Verse 26 is general, while verse 27 is specific. Thus within chapter nine, Gabriel uses parallel construction to lay out the end of God’s plan.

The three verses of Daniel 9:25-27 are important to any eschatology and as an invaluable support to the sequence-of-events model; several issues of exegesis require examination. Depending on how the words are interpreted can lead to wildly different conclusions so some word study is required as well. Issues addressed here concern:
  1. the coming of the Messiah,
  2. the cutting off of the Anointed One,
  3. evidence within the Scripture for separating the one ‘seven’ from the sixty-two ‘sevens’ with a gap in time between the two, and
  4. the nature of “confirming” the covenant with many
DA 9:25 "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven 'sevens,' and sixty-two sevens.'

(1.) The seven and the sixty-two ‘sevens’ describe the first part of the timeline. The start is revealed as the issuing of the decree to restore Jerusalem. Unfortunately this extremely important date is not totally clear. There are then three instances which Jesus could be said to have arrived:
  1. The first is his birth which the Magi observed.
  2. The second instance would be the start of Jesus’ Ministry.
  3. The third would be the Triumphal Entry which Jesus stressed as important:
LK 19:40 "I tell you," he replied, "if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out."
  1. The first possibility might be found in the first decree of Cyrus the Great.
  2. The second possible date may be in the seventh year of Artaxerxes I around 457 B.C. This would put the coming of the Messiah as his baptism in A.D. 27 counting in straight solar years and would conform to Jesus being crucified around A.D. 31.
  3. The third possibility might be the commission of King Artaxerxes to Nehemiah in 446 B.C. The third seems too recent because that would push the coming of the Messiah to A.D. 38. However, if one counts in prophetic years (360 days per year as is used in Revelation) then the coming of the Messiah happens in early A.D. 31 which would coincide with Jesus' arrival on Palm Sunday.
So the problem is two-fold, finding the actual start date and then correctly calculating the years.

So far, none of the methods yields a date close to Christ’s birth, however, some Jewish and Christian scholars have set a terminus a quo, or beginning point in the reign of Cyrus which align with the Savior’s birth. (Know Therefore and Understand: A Biblical Explication of the First 69 Weeks of Daniel 9, by T. T. Schlegel.) The interesting fact that the Magi had determined His birth leaves one to wonder if they hadn’t used some method to arrive at Christ’s birth between 6 and 4 B.C. (Herod the Great, who ordered the infants in Bethlehem killed, has had his death corrected to having died in 4 B.C. which then necessitates that Jesus be born before A.D. 1 as initially set by Dionysius Exiguus.) One could allow that the Magi may have had some other prophecies of Daniel in Babylon that might explain their arrival being timed correctly. They may have used an additional celestial test such as conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn or eclipses of the moon, and Jupiter. Several such astrological signs occurred in this time period, but which one may have been interpreted as determining the Savior’s birth is not known. Despite how they came to determine Jesus’ birth, however, the sign they followed was in the heavens (sky) and the Gospel accounts testify that they did arrive.

While the fixing of dates is important in understanding the literal nature of prophecy’s fulfillment, however, from a sequence of events standpoint: any of the end dates rendered by the three possible starting points or which ever counting method is employed brings the timeline of Gabriel’s prophecy of the seven and sixty-two ‘sevens’ into the lifetime of Christ. The important aspect is after the sixty-two ‘sevens’ the Messiah is cut off. The word: after, 'ahar, a simple adverb, starting the quoted verse means sets the sequence for the Anointed One’s “cutting off” after Christ’s arrival. So no matter which date or method is used, the sequence of events is correctly set.

DAN 9:26a After the sixty-two `sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing…

(2.) The second matter requiring address concerns the verb “be cut off” because of the nature of how Christ’s ministry and crucifixion are interpreted in this verse and the next. The nominal usage of this verb, karat, can be as in to cut down with a woodcutter (Isa. 14:8). It also contains a “metaphorical meaning to root out, eliminate, remove, excommunicate or destroy by a violent act of man or nature” ―Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament p. 457. This certainly would include a description of a crucifixion. However, karat, can also be used in Daniel as it is in Genesis 15:18 to cut or make a covenant because of the slaughter of animals was a part of the covenant ritual ― (Speiser, Genesis, in AB, p. 112; BA 34:18) ibid. While the Hebrew language allows enough some latitude in the normal sense when applied to a person, seeing Christ’s crucifixion on the Cross in the literal sense of a violent act, the metaphorical sense of being destroyed by a violent act of man, and even in the theological sense of making a new Covenant with His shed Blood becomes an overwhelming fulfillment reality in all aspects of karat.

DAN 9:26b ...The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.

(3.) The nature of gaps in prophecy does not manifest itself in this passage. There is no readily apparent mirror image between the sixty-two and the one ‘seven’ which make up the respective parts to the gap as covered in chapter two. However, as the third concern to be addressed, the evidence in Gabriel’s message to Daniel reflects an insertion of a number of years between the sixty-two ‘sevens’ and the one ‘seven’ because of the three items listed.

The first was the cutting off of the Messiah. Whether it happened 30 some years after He came as in being born, more than three years after being baptized, or less than a week after the Triumphal Entry, some time goes by. In the last case, allowing for a few days would preserve the sense of consecutive ‘sevens’ and were it not for the mention of the next two events, disallowing a gap in Gabriel’s ‘sevens’ could legitimately be made. However, that is not the case.

The second event gives evidence within Gabriel’s prophecy for the insertion of a longer gap in time between the sixty-two and the one ‘seven’ than just a week. Gabriel correctly lists the destruction of the Temple in the sequence of events as occurring after the crucifixion. History confirms the fulfillment of this prophecy. The Temple was destroyed first by being set on fire by the zealots and then it was pulled down by the Romans under Titus in A.D. 70. This portion of the prophecy demonstrates a gap in time: The one ‘seven’ does not run currently with the sixty-two ‘sevens’ because there is no formula or multiple that allows anyone to stretch one ‘seven’ over the nearly four decades between the crucifixion Christ’s figurative temple and the destruction of the literal Temple in A.D. 70.

While this verse contains fulfilled prophecy which confounds the critic and also gives a definite time marker which shows the one ‘seven’ does not run concurrently to the sixty-two sevens; that is not the point in mentioning the destruction of the city and the sanctuary. The reason for the inclusion of this prophetic fact and the significance here is that this statement points to the future anti-Christ: He is of Roman descent. The verse doesn’t say Titus or any other ruler will destroy the city and the sanctuary, but the people will destroy the city and the sanctuary. In turn, the ruler who will come is identified as coming from these people. As the people were Roman soldiers, they were not necessarily Italian, but would be from the entire Roman Empire which included conquered Europe. Thus, this ruler, ‘who will come,’ will be out of this Roman kingdom in its larger extent.

A critic might suggest a Preterist solution in that Jesus said; “this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.” Thus they relegate much of God’s Wrath listed in the book of Revelation to the Roman’s conquest of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. While some would argue this fulfilled Jesus’ prophetic statement within the Olivet Discourse for “this generation,” taken within the context of His words, the counter argument would be that the events Jesus lists in His Olivet Discourse as to when He would return would be fulfilled within the generation that sees “these things.” Those things Jesus lists were not fulfilled in A.D. 70. However, two facts in Daniel 9:26 serve to disprove any stretching of the one ‘seven’ over nearly forty years. First of all, the conquest of the city is listed here as a precursor to the end, not the end itself. Secondly, because war continues after A.D.70, it refutes any notion that the first Jewish rebellion was in any sense the final conflict envisioned in prophecy, which is the third event.

The third event is not a single action as the first two, but shows the lengthening of time because wars continue. Were some confusion allowed with Jesus’ statement and the Preterist eschatological position so that prophecy was neatly concluded in the first century, the next sentence in Gabriel’s prophetic announcement cements the gap and extends it well past the first century. While Gabriel uses a then-common convention of giving a preliminary summation before going into greater detail as is the nature of parallel accounts, an important fact of his testimony is that “wars will continue until the end.” It is the continuation which stretches the gap past the first century and through every century since including the twenty-first. War will be a state of man’s existence until God puts an end to war at the end of the one ‘seven’ by waging war Himself and overcoming the world in the most literal sense at Armageddon.

Despite any assertion that God’s Kingdom has been ushered in with the Pentecost, Rome as a nation went on without missing a beat. The end of Nebuchadnezzar’s stature has not been realized yet. Wars have continued between nations just as Gabriel said yet the end will come quickly. Reading a continuation here is consistent with Jesus’ Olivet Discourse which speaks of wars and rumors of wars, nations rising up against nations, and kingdoms against kingdoms as being part of the birth pains but the end comes later. As a birth pain, this comes before the labor of the end which comes quickly. So even if God’s Kingdom began in a figurative sense with the spring festival of Pentecost and the first fruits of the Church there, it will be made literally complete at the fall festival of Harvest still to come at the end of the Church age.
Gabriel’s sequence of events which happen after the sixty-two ‘sevens;’ Christ’s crucifixion, the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70, and the two millennium of war which has followed -all point to a separation of time between the sixty-two ‘sevens’ and the one ‘seven.’ This can be portrayed graphically as presented below:

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The gap in the sevens spans the time of the Church. While some commentators say this period is overlooked by the prophets, a discernible reference for it can be found within the task of the Messiah in Daniel 9:24 and prophecy relating to the outpouring of God’s Spirit. This gap in time follows the very same gap identified in Isaiah 61:2. The gap in Daniel traverses the Messiah coming and then being cut off and then shifting to a time of desolations follows Isaiah 61:2 in parallel:

ISA 61:2 to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor
and the day of vengeance of our God,


Another parallel in the gap is found in the person of Jesus. The arrival of the Messiah starting at the end of the sixty-ninth week is not to be repeated until some point in the one week with his return to start the millennium period at the end of it as the rock that grows into a mountain and fills the whole land out of Daniel chapter two. The jump, from the first century to some time in the future in Daniel 9:26, is consistent with the last theme of the Messiah’s involvement and certainly inline with one of the subjects of Gabriel’s proclamation, being Christ.

Considering the aspect of “to bring in everlasting righteous” as also describing the time between the sixty-ninth and one week, there is no gap in Christ’s work for the entire order of the seventy weeks in Daniel 9:24 in one sense. But as to His physical presence, there certainly is a nearly two millennium span. To focus on the time when Christ is active on Earth, then Gabriel would naturally skip the interim period between the first and second coming of the Lord, and the detail listing in verses 9:25-27 certainly qualify from an earthbound perspective. The placement of the one ‘seven’ apart from the preceding two named periods follows the pattern of the people, the city and Christ as well.

Dan 9:27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on wing, he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

(4.) While there is an obsolete definition to “confirm” which fits with the meaning of the underlying Hebrew word gabar, (Strong’s 1396) the modern connotation is largely positive and lends readers to assume because of the linkage of “covenant,” that the actor confirming (a positive action) the covenant is Jesus. This is sometime buttressed with the theological argument from the book of Hebrews that ritual, legal sacrifice is no longer required for the Christian.

However, the Hebrew verb, while used for God’s strength as an adjective, misses the mark for Jesus’ New Covenant He made by laying His Life down. Gone in Jesus’ first Advent are all overtones of military might or strength in His Sacrifice. Furthermore, there is no theological basis for saying Jesus ever initiated a covenant which ran out of time in just seven years, prophetic, solar, or based on the Hebrew lunar calendar.

The Hebrew verb conjugation of gabar is in the third person singular. The person who does the action then reverts to the last person mentioned. That is found in the prince who will come. This future reference is the direct linkage to this future actor. This prince can be identified by the people who destroy the city and the sanctuary, which was a prophetic utterance from the oldest Daniel manuscript of the second century B.C. This was accomplished in A.D. 70 by the Romans in the first Jewish Revolt. This then aligns with the King of the North being the last of a long line of Roman rulers as Daniel 2 dictates. Some critics maintain the antecedent to the pronoun within gabar’s conjugation reverts back only to a subject of a sentence, which is the Messiah, but no such rule can be found in Hebrew grammar.

To reiterate the issues within Daniel chapter nine in closing, the coming of the Messiah occurred with Jesus’ first Advent. The cutting off of the Anointed One was fulfilled on the Cross after Christ came. Evidence within the Scripture separates the one ‘seven’ from the sixty-two ‘sevens’ with a gap in time between the two. This gap is ongoing as long as war continues. Finally the nature of “confirming” the covenant with many relegates it not to Jesus’ sacrifice, but to the other ruler who will come as identified by the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70.
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Marcus O'Reillius said:
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The other aspect is while certain prophetic passages present an orderly timeline of events in the order they occur, having two events in the correct order does not negate other events from occurring in between. That is, there can be gaps in prophesy.
You will search the Bible in vain for a duration-specific time prophecy which fails to conclude itself at the time God said so. He said there would be:
...120 years that His spirit would strive with the Antediluvians until the flood and 120 years there were.
...7 years of plenty in Egypt and 7 years there were.
...7 years of famine in Egypt and 7 years there were.
...40 years of Israel wandering the desert and 40 years there were
...3 1/2 years of no rain in the days of Elijah and 3 1/2 days there were.
...15 years added to Hezekiah's life and 15 years there were.
...70 years that Israel would be in captivity in Babylon and 70 years there were.
...and.............
...490 years for the events of Daniel 9 to be accomplished and 490 years there were! The insertion of "gaps" in prophecy is simply NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE - it is an idea which finds its roots in the Counter-Reformation.
 

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A famous quote is that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results.

Actually I think that defines stupidity. Insanity is doing the same thing over again knowing the results are going to be most horrid and doing them anyways.

Now there are gaps in prophecy.

You ignore Isaiah 61:2.

You also ignore that Gabriel not only breaks up the seventy 'sevens' into 7, 62, and 1 - BUT -

He also inserts THREE events between the 62 and the 1. These are:

  • The Messiah will be cut off. This happens first after the Messiah comes.
  • The city and the Sanctuary will be destoryed. This happened some 40 years after the Messiah came.
  • War will continue to the end of the seventy 'sevens'. This is the most important aspect for a lengthening of time because we know the last battle or act of war is Armageddon when Jesus and His Army will capture the anti-Christ, the King of the North, who comes from the people who destroyed the city and the Sanctuary and who "prevails" a covenant which STARTS the one 'seven' in the first place - and war has been going on for two thousand years now. THE END IS NOT YET.

So God did not say there would be seventy 'sevens' PERIOD. That is a false presumption which is keeping you in your ignorance. Read ALL of what Gabriel had to say to Daniel with understanding, and don't get locked into a preset mentality, because it did not all happen in the past. That's Preterism and next to Amillennialism, it's the weakest eschatology out there.
 

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Marcus O'Reillius said:
A famous quote is that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results.

Actually I think that defines stupidity. Insanity is doing the same thing over again knowing the results are going to be most horrid and doing them anyways.

Now there are gaps in prophecy.

You ignore Isaiah 61:2.

You also ignore that Gabriel not only breaks up the seventy 'sevens' into 7, 62, and 1 - BUT -

He also inserts THREE events between the 62 and the 1. These are:

  • The Messiah will be cut off. This happens first after the Messiah comes.
  • The city and the Sanctuary will be destoryed. This happened some 40 years after the Messiah came.
  • War will continue to the end of the seventy 'sevens'. This is the most important aspect for a lengthening of time because we know the last battle or act of war is Armageddon when Jesus and His Army will capture the anti-Christ, the King of the North, who comes from the people who destroyed the city and the Sanctuary and who "prevails" a covenant which STARTS the one 'seven' in the first place - and war has been going on for two thousand years now. THE END IS NOT YET.

So God did not say there would be seventy 'sevens' PERIOD. That is a false presumption which is keeping you in your ignorance. Read ALL of what Gabriel had to say to Daniel with understanding, and don't get locked into a preset mentality, because it did not all happen in the past. That's Preterism and next to Amillennialism, it's the weakest eschatology out there.
Don't confuse insanity with "extending patience beyond reason", as did God toward the Antediluvians by unnaturally extending the life of "when he dies it shall come" - Methuselah.

I'm going to put this in terms that even a child can understand that you have no excuse to any longer be confused about gaps:

No one is ignoring Isaiah 61:2. It is an "EVENT-specific" prophecy, and has nothing to do with the "DURATION-specific" prophecy of Daniel 9, and every single "duration-specific" prophecy of scripture lasts only as long as God says it will last, as in the examples I've already given. Your feeble attempt to confuse apples and oranges in order to establish peaches is getting tiresome. Please meet my challenge to find a "duration-specific" prophecy in which the duration of the prophecy lasts longer than God originally said it will last or move on to your next "proof" text.

What law of hermeneutics demands that Gabriel inserted a "GAP" into the 70 weeks b/c he broke up the duration in segments for the contextual purpose of showing the length of time that would be in the building of the wall? It is obvious that he does so for the purpose of inserting proverbial "waymarks" - not "stargates" - so that the Jews would know exactly when the Messiah was to arrive, although their unbelief blinded them to even that.