Those who have wifes should live as if they do not

[soberxp]

I saw this verse proven on two separate occasions-
"A married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife—
and his interests are divided." (1 Corinthians 7:33-34)

The first was when a pal of mine used to visit me for a spot of chess-like strategy gaming and he was pretty good at it, but then he got married and when he came back from honeymoon he seemed distracted andunable to concentrate, and kept sneaking peeks at his watch every 5 minutes which annoyed me, and he said "My wife told me to be back by 6 pm and I dare not be late".

Then exactly the same thing happened some years later when another pal and his wife stayed with me at my place for a week.. One day him and me went for a look round town while she remained behind to do some cooking, and he kept sneaking glances at his watch every 5 minutes."I've got to be back by 6 or i'll never hear the last of it" he explained..:)

(PS- neither of their marriages lasted more than a few years)

LOL,I got it.

 

[Lambano]

1 Corinthians chapter 7 is Paul's Q & A time with the Corinthian church, so apparently they asked about that. The quote verse is part of that overall discussion Paul interestingly frames it as a man having an obligation to sexually please his wife, and a wife having an obligation to sexually please her husband:

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. 6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. -1 Corinthians 7:3-6

On another forum, a man stated that he had to all extents and purposes made himself a eunuch for the sake of the Kingdom (Matthew 19:12 reference) - and his wife didn't understand. To my astonishment, one of the most conservative women on the forum told that man in no uncertain terms to turn around and be a husband to his wife. So, if you're married and think it's more spiritual to abstain, fine - but breaking obligations to others is NOT spiritual.

10 The disciples say to Him, “If the relationship of the man with his wife is like this, it is better not to marry.” 11 But He said to them, “Not all men can accept this statement, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way from their mother’s womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by people; and there are also eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who is able to accept this, let him accept it.” Matthew 19-10-13.

 

[OreCove]

1 Corinthians chapter 7 is Paul's Q & A time with the Corinthian church, so apparently they asked about that. The quote verse is part of that overall discussion Paul interestingly frames it as a man having an obligation to sexually please his wife, and a wife having an obligation to sexually please her husband:



On another forum, a man stated that he had to all extents and purposes made himself a eunuch for the sake of the Kingdom (Matthew 19:12 reference) - and his wife didn't understand. To my astonishment, one of the most conservative women on the forum told that man in no uncertain terms to turn around and be a husband to his wife. So, if you're married and think it's more spiritual to abstain, fine - but breaking obligations to others is NOT spiritual.

Should wife follow her husband?

When someone from christians becomes spiritually alive, this person will not suffer from luck of fleshy pleasure. It is so sad there are no alive christians.

 

[pandaflower]

1 Corinthians 7:29 emphasizes that the time is short, urging those who are married to live as if they are not, which means prioritizing spiritual commitments over earthly relationships. This reflects the belief in the imminent return of Christ and the temporary nature of life on earth. bibleref.com Bible Hub

 

[OreCove]

1 Corinthians 7:29 emphasizes that the time is short, urging those who are married to live as if they are not, which means prioritizing spiritual commitments over earthly relationships. This reflects the belief in the imminent return of Christ and the temporary nature of life on earth. bibleref.com Bible Hub

I like your bravery. You are probably liberated yourself from flesh. Or you just honest and say truth, despite being struggling with sin. I am sorry for the straight question - What is your stage? Do you still commit sins?

 

[Behold]

Who believes that we can be perfect?

"as many as be perfect" is Paul's teaching on having a renewed mind that perfectly understands God's Grace .

He is talking about Believer's being in unity, regarding having "one" mind........The same exact spiritually mature understanding.

Phil 2:2 (KJV)

Who believes that we can be stronger than sin?

God's Grace is stronger then sin, Paul teaches.

"""Where sin abounds, GRACE more abounds".""

 

[OreCove]

I'm not taking you seriously. I'm not playing role of loving sheep and accepting everyone in this world. Time is short. I'm looking for someone who used God's power and defeated sin. Completely.

 

[soberxp]

I'm looking for someone who used God's power and defeated sin. Completely.

Can't you do it yourself?

 

[OreCove]

Can't you do it yourself?

Without God no one can even think to be sinless.

 

[soberxp]

Without God no one can even think to be sinless.

Agree.
And
Disagree.

God can indeed empower us to break free from the shackles of the flesh—
yet we also overcome sin by submitting to His Word

If you want to find someone who is innocent, why not get married, have a child, and teach him to grow up without guilt.


If you can hear God, ask for him, is it possible.

 

[Behold]

I'm not taking you seriously.

Your Thread proves that noone should take you seriously.
You dont realize it yet, but you will soon.

I'm not playing role of loving sheep and accepting everyone in this world.

God doesn't require that we accept everyone.
What God requires is that we learn how to live like He loves, and that can't begin until we are born again.

Time is short.

Yes, Hebrews 9:27 is coming sooner then anyone thought.
You too.

I'm looking for someone who used God's power and defeated sin. Completely.

Sin is defeated by The Cross of Christ., and Christ always "gives us the Victory", over sin, the world, the devil, and our own flesh.

But, you have to belong to God, and then be taught how to overcome, as otherwise you'll just search and never find the solution.

 

[OreCove]

Can't you do it yourself?

Sorry, I might misunderstood your question. I can certainly claim that I used tool provided by God and defeated sin. I'm not perfect. When we stop committing sin only then we start growing toward perfection. I always apply what others say "word of God" to myself and also anything sims to me right and check, does it work or not. I don't copy past scripture, I share my experience. If something doesn't work, I exclude it from my list of useful stuff. And I honest with God. I guess most christians have some sense of God present, especially His absence. And I tell you, God doesn't reject me even if I criticize His work. Today I realized that God also regrets and feels sorrow after creating humans. Maybe it is why He understands my frustration when I understand that God can't use miracles to stop evil, and throughout history the most suffering group of people were honests and righteous. You don't have to believe me, and keep an image of God who ignores when people asking for help. But God created mechanism of developing and controlling the Universe, without actively participating in management. Maybe it is us who will be His "hands" to influence the whole creation directly.

I'm looking for people who defeated sin. It doesn't matter if they are not perfect. Plus, I offer to analyze my experience and take what is useful and spread it to others. You can still believe what you believe. I'm not asking for change in your belief system. Just let's help each other to be better by using what is really working. I state here, I gain ability ignor sin. If I face temptation I ask God and myself why do I need this? And it's clear, real me doesn't want to commit sin. It is amazing to me why I needed pleasure so much and now it is nothing compare to God's treasure. If image of sexual act crawling to my mind I kick it out like dirt. It is not what can make me happy, obviously, and pleasure is not what I crave in this world.
Let's share how we defeat sin. How to grow. We can bring this world to the end. I can't do it on my own alone.

 

[soberxp]

Sorry, I might misunderstood your question. I can certainly claim that I used tool provided by God and defeated sin. I'm not perfect. When we stop committing sin only then we start growing toward perfection. I always apply what others say "word of God" to myself and also anything sims to me right and check, does it work or not. I don't copy past scripture, I share my experience. If something doesn't work, I exclude it from my list of useful stuff. And I honest with God. I guess most christians have some sense of God present, especially His absence. And I tell you, God doesn't reject me even if I criticize His work. Today I realized that God also regrets and feels sorrow after creating humans. Maybe it is why He understands my frustration when I understand that God can't use miracles to stop evil, and throughout history the most suffering group of people were honests and righteous. You don't have to believe me, and keep an image of God who ignores when people asking for help. But God created mechanism of developing and controlling the Universe, without actively participating in management. Maybe it is us who will be His "hands" to influence the whole creation directly.

I'm looking for people who defeated sin. It doesn't matter if they are not perfect. Plus, I offer to analyze my experience and take what is useful and spread it to others. You can still believe what you believe. I'm not asking for change in your belief system. Just let's help each other to be better by using what is really working. I state here, I gain ability ignor sin. If I face temptation I ask God and myself why do I need this? And it's clear, real me doesn't want to commit sin. It is amazing to me why I needed pleasure so much and now it is nothing compare to God's treasure. If image of sexual act crawling to my mind I kick it out like dirt. It is not what can make me happy, obviously, and pleasure is not what I crave in this world.
Let's share how we defeat sin. How to grow. We can bring this world to the end. I can't do it on my own alone.

You don't understand that evil is based on good things, that sex is not abnormal, it's just that people turn love into pure sex, To become an evil thing, love a person is not evil, because the lack of love, so sex will be infinitely magnified into evil, if there is love, I mean the feeling of loving someone, it would be better if both of you fall in love, which in itself is fundamental to overcoming flesh desires.

Over come sin is not something very difficult,
It's just that humans turn the feelings of good things into feelings of evil, they don't understand what they're doing.

I think trying to explain these things would be like writing a paper, but the general idea is what I'm talking about.

I admire your thinking, but this is not a problem that can be solved by finding an innocent man, Jesus Christ is the innocent man, It's just that people don't go looking for him on their own, so there's a gospel preaching, but for secular people, it's hard to talk to them.

Unless you can fulfill their wishes like Aladdin's lamp, they may try to listen to what you have to say.

Let me ask you a question. Can you make games？ program games.

 

[pandaflower]

I like your bravery. You are probably liberated yourself from flesh. Or you just honest and say truth, despite being struggling with sin. I am sorry for the straight question - What is your stage? Do you still commit sins?

In reading Jesus and his teachings, I don't believe the reborn redeemed Christian is a sinner still.
Nor do we sin,as sin was understood before when we were in our natural worldly minded state.

I believe now we are conscious of our choices and emotions as related to what pleases the Father. And what disappoints.

Now,with that awareness , rather than being sinners who sin, we are saints who are growing closer in our union with God.


Our choices,experiences,consequences of our actions, are how we learn to follow God's guidance to grow in spiritual consciousness. And as such release the hold of the worldly inclinations.

 

[Matthias]

Monkish asceticism redivivus.

 

[pandaflower]

Monkish asceticism redivivus.

How boring.

 

[Matthias]

How boring.

I haven’t come across the phrase before but “Holy boring” - now I’ve got Batman on my mind, darn your hide - would perhaps be an apt description (once I get my mind refocused).

Husbands and wives may refrain, when mutually agreed upon, for a time.