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lolWell next time I smack you over the head with a saucepan ill apologize...
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lolWell next time I smack you over the head with a saucepan ill apologize...
If I were unable to give you an answer according to scripture you might be correct, but I can. That does not make me right. It simply makes it a possibility as I see it.Yes John...agree, only God knows.
But how on earth do you reconcile the work of the cross and then say there is a sin which cannot be forgiven!!
That is an oxymoron to me.
Nothing is impossible with God.
Do you want to tell me how you believe it?
But don't worry if you don't wish to get into it...I know we have done this on this forum and on others
No worries. We can 'wait and see' ...
Bless you...H x
If I were unable to give you an answer according to scripture you might be correct, but I can. That does not make me right. It simply makes it a possibility as I see it.
Men have taken God's very good creation and using the possibilities allowed have introduced sin. Can they not also introduce a sin that God will not forgive? If there were no curses in scripture, then you also might be right, but there are curses and, is not death one of them? Is there not a death that never ends?
As to nothing being impossible with God, consider this question: Can God disobey His own Word? God gave man the authority to sin, which is to disobey God's Word, but could God do it Himself?
Thank you.
Haha! Okay, you ask two major question here.
1) you said:- "Men have taken God's very good creation and using the possibilities allowed have introduced sin. Can they not also introduce a sin that God will not forgive? "
2) As to nothing being impossible with God, consider this question: Can God disobey His own Word? God gave man the authority to sin, which is to disobey God's Word, but could God do it Himself?
There is no sin that God is unable or unwilling to forgive.
How does Mark 3:28-29 fit into this?
Mary
Hi Richard - I like and agree that it's and ongoing attitude, and I believe it is part of the gift of faith because it doesn't come from us but from God--through us.I believe that repentance is necessary for the child of God. But that repentance is not a ritual that is done when they think they have sinned. I believe in a repentant attitude, an attitude of continually acknowledging, to God, that the sins of the flesh are always present in the mind.
True repentance "IS" a "CONSTANT ATTITUDE" of the heart and is not an action that is done at some place or time. --- It is constantly acknowledging (admitting to God) that you are a sinful person in the flesh and that you need His forgiveness, the need for God, who paid for your sins, to save you from your sinful nature in the flesh. -- It is a constant humble walk with God (the Holy Spirit that lives in your heart) in honesty, without deceit. -- To be exact it is and attitude of the heart and it is not a ritual that you do at some place or time.
I was not thinking of Esau but of the children of Israel:Thank you.
Haha! Okay, you ask two major question here.
1) you said:- "Men have taken God's very good creation and using the possibilities allowed have introduced sin. Can they not also introduce a sin that God will not forgive? "
# 1 = NO!! Never. There is no sin that God is unable or unwilling to forgive.
With #1 I expect you are thinking of Esau Heb 12:17
But like Judas , it was his destiny, all part of the major Plan for Jacob.
Interesting.
I was not thinking of Esau but of the children of Israel:
"Because all those men which have seen my glory, and my miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not hearkened to my voice; Surely they shall not see the land which I sware unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it:" Num 14:22-23 <snip>
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This one is even more of a can of worms and likely you know it as you don't delve much into it yourself. Consider what Joshua says here:Thank you.
Haha! Okay, you ask two major question here.
2) you said: As to nothing being impossible with God, consider this question: Can God disobey His own Word? God gave man the authority to sin, which is to disobey God's Word, but could God do it Himself?
#2 = I say No, He could, but He would not. But I dare not really touch that question. Haha!!
Neither do I, but we were not discussing the final result for the children of Jacob. We were discussing whether or not God would always forgive. What I showed is that He did not forgive them and allow them to enter the physical promised land. I said nothing about whether or not they might still somehow receive salvation. That is a separate question.Well John, it seems that we see things differently ...I can read that...but to me it doesn't speak as being "all over" for them.
I don't think God has turned his back 100% on old Israel.
Again you jumped from the subject of God NOT forgiving to final salvation. God did not forgive them and let them enter the promised land. That entrance was lost to them as it was lost to Moses and Aaron. Moses appearance on the mount of transfiguration indicated that God did not case the man aside. But, Moses still had to pay the price for striking rather than speaking to the rock. God would not forgive him so that he could receive that reward [reward of natural entrance].When they see Him, every knee will bend and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. They will have their face to face time. As will all.
Even if we throw out that argument, which we can.....'The Promised Land' spoke of their/Abrahams Inheritance...which indeed....can be lost.
We have to make our calling and election sure.
"Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown." ( reward, inheritance)
but wait...True repentance "IS" a "CONSTANT ATTITUDE" of the heart and is not an action that is done at some place or time. --- It is constantly acknowledging (admitting to God) that you are a sinful person in the flesh and that you need His forgiveness, the need for God, who paid for your sins, to save you from your sinful nature in the flesh. -- It is a constant humble walk with God (the Holy Spirit that lives in your heart) in honesty, without deceit. -- To be exact it is and attitude of the heart and it is not a ritual that you do at some place or time.
how can you say that? isn't this called a lack of faith? what happened toPaul couldn’t in Romans 7 and neither can we.
Yet, as clear though all Scripture,There is no such thing as an unforgivable sin.