True Sin in the Garden

[Christina]

So in the simplest of terms in your Study of the true sin in the garden of Eden you lay out a convincing case, that Satan seduced both Eve and Adam,that Eve then also knew(had sexal relations) with Adam and became pregant with twins.Satan being the father of Cain (the first murder)and Adam being the father of Able (who was Slain) This would explain how they both came of age at the same time to make an offer to the Lord. So from the begining Satan was trying to destroy/defile the line/lineage that Christ would come thru.That explains so many things in Bible it also makes much more sense then Eve eating an Apple which I never understood.Thank you for this enlighting study.

 

[Christina]

forgot to post the link to your studyhttp://www.christianityboard.com/showthrea...p=1967#post1967

 

[Christina]

Swapfox,after reading your study on the sin in Eden thought you might find this Jewish teaching of interest the Jews have very little teachings on the anti-christ sense this is mostley a New testment teaching God placed a stupor upon the Jewish nation so that the time of the Gentiles/Christianity could take place.So I thought this teaching on an anti-christ figure called "Armilus " the offspring of Satan and a virgin of interest,inlight of you study and considering Eve was a virgin untill she met Satan the serpent. --------------------------------------------------"Armilus is an anti-Messiah figure in late-period Jewish eschatology, comparable to the christian Antichrist, who will conquer Jerusalem and persecute the Jews until his final defeat at the hands of God or the true Messiah. His inevitable destruction symbolizes the ultimate victory of good over evil in the Messianic age.

 

[Christina]

Swapfox,after reading your study on the sin in Eden thought you might find this Jewish teaching of interest the Jews have very little teachings on the anti-christ sense this is mostley a New testment teaching God placed a stupor upon the Jewish nation so that the time of the Gentiles/Christianity could take place.So I thought this teaching on an anti-christ figure called "Armilus " the offspring of Satan and a virgin of interest,inlight of you study and considering Eve was a virgin untill she met Satan the serpent. --------------------------------------------------For some reason my whole post didnt work so ill try again--------------------------------------------------Armilus is an anti-Messiah figure in late-period Jewish eschatology, comparable to the xtian Antichrist, who will conquer Jerusalem and persecute the Jews until his final defeat at the hands of God or the true Messiah. His inevitable destruction symbolizes the ultimate victory of good over evil in the Messianic age. According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, Armilus is "a king who will arise at the end of time against the Messiah, and will be conquered by him after having brought much distress upon Israel", similar to Gog. The origin of this figure, said to be the offspring of Satan and a virgin, or Satan and a statue (or "stone"), is as much involved in doubt as the different phases of his development, and his relation to the xtian legend and doctrine------------------------------------Dont know where Im going with this except that maybe a second sourcethat there is a line between Satan,Eve,Cain ?anti-christ? any thoughts

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

So in the simplest of terms in your Study of the true sin in the garden of Eden you lay out a convincing case, that Satan seduced both Eve and Adam,that Eve then also knew(had sexal relations) with Adam and became pregant with twins.Satan being the father of Cain (the first murder)and Adam being the father of Able (who was Slain) This would explain how they both came of age at the same time to make an offer to the Lord. So from the begining Satan was trying to destroy/defile the line/lineage that Christ would come thru.That explains so many things in Bible it also makes much more sense then Eve eating an Apple which I never understood.Thank you for this enlighting study.

The true sin in the Garden was disobedience. God had told Adam and Eve not to eat from the forbidden tree but they disobeyed and ate from the forbidden tree. This is why they grew old and died and the reason why we their offspring grow and die.

 

[Ancient]

Many also miss that yes they were "commanded" a "law" to not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. What many miss is that Yahweh also gave the man "instructions" which again is "law" to tend and keep the garden. One would do well to understand what tending, tilling and keeping are in the Hebrew language as these are all English words that often do not convey the meaning of the original Hebrew words. Just because you translate words from one language to another does not mean the meanings are conveyed along with it.
When one understands the Hebrew one may see that Adam didn't do his job either. How did the serpent get into the garden? Was Adam tending and keeping?

Blessings if you choose to investigate further.

 

[Robert Gwin]

So in the simplest of terms in your Study of the true sin in the garden of Eden you lay out a convincing case, that Satan seduced both Eve and Adam,that Eve then also knew(had sexal relations) with Adam and became pregant with twins.Satan being the father of Cain (the first murder)and Adam being the father of Able (who was Slain) This would explain how they both came of age at the same time to make an offer to the Lord. So from the begining Satan was trying to destroy/defile the line/lineage that Christ would come thru.That explains so many things in Bible it also makes much more sense then Eve eating an Apple which I never understood.Thank you for this enlighting study.

Hi Christiana welcome to the forum maam. I guess you do not understand the principle behind the sin, the tree was put there for a test. The Bible reveals that Eve was deceived, but that did not excuse her choice to disobey God. Adam willingly chose to join her in her rebellion. By eating the fruit on that tree, they stole, do you understand? No different if someone came to your house and took one of your possessions.

But much more was on the line, satan stated it point blankly, you can be your own god, choosing for yourselves what is right and wrong. So we have benefited by God allowing them to continue to see if man really can be his own god. If you asked me they have failed miserably.