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Lizbeth

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Jesus wasn't resurrected at easter..Lol
Yep, that is the Catholic church dictating to us. His death and resurrection is tied to the Passover and if we want to have a day to celebrate, we really should celebrate accordingly. But good luck getting family and friends on board with that, especially if they are unbelievers to start with, lol.
 
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Yep, that is the Catholic church dictating to us. His death and resurrection is tied to the Passover and if we want to have a day to celebrate, we really should celebrate accordingly. But good luck getting family and friends on board with that, especially if they are unbelievers to start with, lol.
Yes, and all of the world's system is purposefully structured around the pagan dates, as they have totally obscured the truth. So 98% of society is in line with what the RCC has dictated rather than what God's Word says.
 

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Bless you for this. It's not uncommon for satanic ritual abuse survivors who turned to Christ to separate 100% from anything connected to the pagan practices, because it is so plainly a mixture with the world.

Do we celebrate and rejoice in His resurrection? ABSOLUTELY! Are we grateful for His birth? ABSOLUTELY! If He didn't come, we couldn't go, right? Are we grateful that He chose to go to the cross and take all our sins upon Himself ....oh my goodness, how can you put words to that?! He did what we could never do ...and all He asks is that we believe He is who He says He is, that we love Him with all our heart, mind, and soul ...and love our neighbor as ourselves. What an exchange!! We are broken ....and He was broken for us so we can be whole in Him. Just amazing ....beyond words!!!
Amen! You are loved sister.
 
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Then choose Love which opposite of hate, you take up your cross and follow Jesus or don't. Jesus said follow me and love your others as you love yourself. God is in charge always. Do the will of God, and not your friends.
Similar statements were made towards Pastor Bonnhofer during the Nazi Regime.
It was designed to shut him up, and stop protesting against the Fuhrer.
They hanged him. So much for "love"...... supporting the liars.
Supporting liars is not the will of God.
Theologians during WW2 were supporting the Nazis.
Bonnhofer decided "thank you, I will have to expose the evil ones."
 

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Then choose Love which opposite of hate, you take up your cross and follow Jesus or don't. Jesus said follow me and love your others as you love yourself. God is in charge always. Do the will of God, and not your friends.
Love doesn't require us to cover evil, agree with it, and promote it, nor to be silent about what is true.
 

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I dont' entirely disagree with your point in principle, which is why I mentioned that verse. It's a shame that Catholicism caused so much confusing and conflating of things that are of God with things that aren't.....what a mess they made. We shouldn't take differing opinions as being necessarily judgmental though. For myself I object to calling the Lord's day of resurrection "Easter" because that is a clear derivative of the name of a pagan goddess Ishtar. And I stopped using candy eggs and bunnies as a means to celebrate, because of what they symbolize. At Christmas I stopped having a tree a long time ago too, once I noticed that verse that identifies it as a pagan practice. Scripture says God doesnt' want us to worship Him the way pagans worship their gods. But that is me and my conscience doing the best I can with the information I have. And I can certainly understand if those who have been subjected to horrific abuses as part of Satanic pagan rituals on those days why they would not want to have anything to do with them at all.
Jesus was resurrected in the Hebrew month of Nissan. That's March and April today.

The Bible doesn't tell us what date was Jesus day of birth. However Christians have celebrated that day as December 25th for centuries. And Winter Solstice is December 21st.

We buy a ball root tree to honor the birth of Christ with a living eternally green tree and in the spirit of the Psalm,
"He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers."

The Magi gifted Jesus and his family with riches befitting a king. And to insure they would never want.

We give food gifts to food banks, donate clothes to Salvation Army, and yes,we gift family and friends things they need .

Everyone has their own opinions. We tend to personalize and adjust what we give our lives to in the faith all is true.

In my view we don't copy the way of the Heathen, translates as those who dwell on the Heath, when we are Monotheists who worship Jesus Christ.
The why of all that is in no wise similar to Heathens.

But,everyone will do as try with.

The problem comes into that picture when there are those who insist it is something Christians cannot do on celebrating Jesus. And because, as they insist, it is Pagan.

It isn't. Not when the Spirit of The Word is within the hearts and minds of those who honor Jesus Resurrection and Birth. Be it on Easter or Christmas days. It is the Spirit and the seal of faithful ESS that leads.

And Paganism,Heathenism,is not related to what we have in Jesus.

As I noted before. If there's a faction dead set on intolerance of Easter and Christmas because it is Christian,they're in quite a pickle when Pagan savior gods predated our Lords sacrifice as one. The only one.
To be consistent in their attack against all things Pagan as related to our faith today,they'd have to deny calling Jesus Savior.

What is never true for the Christian is the zealous agenda promoted by those who first believe early people's faith and practice has a right to rob us of our own. Because pagan faith trump's Christ's.

God knows his people. He knows our heart. May he forgive those who want to convince us Heathenism overcomes that.
 
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Yes, and all of the world's system is purposefully structured around the pagan dates, as they have totally obscured the truth. So 98% of society is in line with what the RCC has dictated rather than what God's Word says.
100 percent, they (the princes and principalities of darkness) have repeatedly and incessantly tried and largely succeeded to paganize and pervert The Word Of God. He tells us what His appointed times are. Easter/Ishatar, Christmas, all those are traditions of men.

read the Bible and take it to the Lord For His revelations and Truth. while In itself not a salvation issue, His people die for lack of knowledge. People just don’t know how far the father of lies has penetrated the so called churches today, which are largely apostate.

veneration, traditions of men, symbolism, it’s everywhere when you have eyes to see and ears to hear. Not much longer, a shaking will occur, time is now, be careful or get ready. Be set apart, come out of babylon lest you suffer in her judgments.

who are we idolizing? A personal question for everyone. God speed, Faith in our only intercessor Jesus Christ.
 
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Love doesn't require us to cover evil, agree with it, and promote it, nor to be silent about what is true.
Jesus said to love one another and to overcome evil with good.

John 13:34-35 - A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Romans 12:16 - Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.

Romans 12:21-Do not be overcome by evil but overcome evil with good.
 

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Jesus said to love one another and to overcome evil with good.

John 13:34-35 - A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Romans 12:16 - Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.

Romans 12:21-Do not be overcome by evil but overcome evil with good.
Yes, He did. And yet, that does not require a believer in Jesus Christ to condone evil. We are called to expose it.
 
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Yes, God knows our hearts...here is a Biblical example of what He says about mixing paganistic, satanic, heathen practices with supposed worship of God. He sees it all. Today's churches are very much like this written about in Ezekiel chapter 8.

Vision of Abominations in Jerusalem
1¶And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before me, that the hand of the Lord GOD fell there upon me.
2Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber.
3And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.
4And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.
5¶Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry.
6¶He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.
7And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.
8Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.
9¶And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.
10So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.
11And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up.
12Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, The LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth.
13¶He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.
14Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.
15¶Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
16And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
17¶Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.
18Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.
 

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Yes, He did. And yet, that does not require a believer in Jesus Christ to condone evil. We are called to expose it.
There is no calling to expose evil. In the church we are expose evil, however I found you a verse you might want to use.

Ephesians 5:11-13-Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness but rather expose them. 12 For the things they do in secret are shameful even to mention. 13 But all things being exposed by the light are made visible.
 

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A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.
  • A Pew poll found that 59% of respondents now disapprove of the president’s job performance,
    and only 40% approve.

According to you, posting this scripture out of context, 59% of US respondents are fools?
And 40% are wise?
And according to Rockerduck the 59% are haters and should not be allowed to speak up.
 
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Ephesians 5:11-13-Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness but rather expose them. 12 For the things they do in secret are shameful even to mention. 13 But all things being exposed by the light are made visible.
Well, I suppose that would refer to your great leader in the White House. Lots of deeds done in darkness, lots of things done in secret and shameful.

I think you should not throw scriptures out at random, kind of the wrong thing to do for a person who is telling us that the Book of Revelations already happened during Roman times.
 
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  • A Pew poll found that 59% of respondents now disapprove of the president’s job performance,
    and only 40% approve.

According to you, posting this scripture out of context, 59% of US respondents are fools?
And 40% are wise?
:jest:Talk about,out of context.
 

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Well, I suppose that would refer to your great leader in the White House. Lots of deeds done in darkness, lots of things done in secret and shameful.

I think you should not throw scriptures out at random, kind of the wrong thing to do for a person who is telling us that the Book of Revelations already happened during Roman times.
You do understand Revelations still. Politics are of the devil. Period, and those who dwell on it are swayed towards evil. But God is in control and knows the heart of men. Those who love God are known to Him
1 Corinthians 8:3
 

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Well, I suppose that would refer to your great leader in the White House. Lots of deeds done in darkness, lots of things done in secret and shameful.

I think you should not throw scriptures out at random, kind of the wrong thing to do for a person who is telling us that the Book of Revelations already happened during Roman times.
Wake up and look at the world. 30 years ago, vs today.
 

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You do understand Revelations still. Politics are of the devil. Period, and those who dwell on it are swayed towards evil. But God is in control and knows the heart of men. Those who love God are known to Him
1 Corinthians 8:3
That describes the spirit giving impetus to their fixation,and others who sound just like them,perfectly.