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Just asked chatgpt using the reason button, and it said no it is not; it is within the bounds of orthodox teaching, read the response

Is Calvinism a false teaching

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Calvinism isn’t a “secret cult” or fringe heresy, but rather one of the historic schools of Protestant theology—particularly within Reformed and Presbyterian traditions—devoted to explaining how God saves sinners. Whether it’s “false” depends on your theological commitments. Here’s a fair overview:

1. What Calvinism Teaches (the “TULIP” summary)​

  1. Total Depravity
    Every part of human nature is marred by sin, so apart from divine intervention we cannot turn to God.
  2. Unconditional Election
    Before the world began, God chose certain individuals for salvation—not based on any foreseen merit or action on their part.
  3. Limited Atonement (or “Particular Redemption”)
    Christ’s death effectively secures salvation for the elect alone, actually bringing them to faith.
  4. Irresistible Grace
    When God intends to save someone, His Spirit overcomes their resistance and brings them freely but irresistibly into faith.
  5. Perseverance of the Saints
    Those truly born again will persevere to the end; they cannot finally fall away.

2. Why Many Embrace It​

  • High View of God’s Sovereignty
    Calvinism exalts God’s initiative—He alone accomplishes salvation from first to last.
  • Assurance of Salvation
    If salvation rests entirely on God’s unchanging will, believers can have confidence that He will complete what He began (Phil. 1:6).
  • Coherent Biblical Narrative
    Calvinists argue their system best harmonizes texts that speak of God’s election (e.g. Romans 9) with texts about human responsibility.

3. Common Objections​

  1. Free Will and Human Responsibility
    Critics (especially Arminians) say Calvinism makes human choice a mere byproduct of divine decree, undermining true moral responsibility.
  2. Love and Justice of God
    Some argue that if God elects some to salvation and not others, it seems arbitrary or incompatible with His universal love (e.g. 1 Tim. 2:4).
  3. Scope of the Atonement
    The idea that Christ died “only for the elect” feels to many like a limitation on the universal offer of the gospel (John 3:16; 2 Cor. 5:14–15).

4. The Broader Protestant Landscape​

  • Arminianism (Methodists, many Baptists) affirms prevenient grace—God enables every person to respond—and then conditional election based on foreseen faith.
  • Lutheranism holds to single predestination (God chooses the saved but does not actively decree the damned) and teaches that Christ’s atonement is universal in scope.
  • Non-denominational Evangelicals often blend elements of both, emphasizing human choice while affirming God’s initiative in salvation.

5. Is It “False Teaching”?​

  • Within Historic Protestantism: No. Calvinism falls squarely within the bounds of orthodox, biblical Christianity. Key confessions (Westminster, Belgic, Canons of Dort) are widely regarded as faithful interpretations of Scripture.
  • Debated, Not Condemned: While Arminians, Lutherans, and Roman Catholics reject aspects of Calvinism, they do so on theological grounds—not by labeling it inherently heretical. These disagreements happen under the shared banner of “Christian orthodoxy.”
  • Heretical Only at Extremes: Problems arise when one distorts Scripture to make God arbitrary or denies clear biblical teachings on human responsibility. But balanced, confessional Calvinism takes both God’s sovereignty and human accountability seriously.

In Summary​

Calvinism is not broadly regarded as a “false” or “demonic” teaching within historic Christianity, but as one major approach to understanding how God sovereignly saves sinners. It’s vigorously debated—especially over free will and the scope of Christ’s atonement—but remains a legitimate, time-tested expression of Protestant faith. Which framework you embrace will depend on how you weigh passages about divine election, human choice, and the nature of Christ’s atoning work.
This was written by AI? Impressive!

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Russia did nothing wrong at all in fact ! They did not bring it on in fact, they were forced into the War,
You must have believed Trump when He said Ukraine was the aggressor, but the just signed raw materials deal states that Russia is the aggressor. But tomorrow it can be easily the other way around.

You know, large parts of the world are completely done with the West, for centuries the West has told them what to do and what to think. China and Russia have a pact, overthrow the West, they are sick and tired with us.
 
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You must have believed Trump when He said Ukraine was the aggressor, but the just signed raw materials deal states that Russia is the aggressor. But tomorrow it can be easily the other way around.

You know, large parts of the world are completely done with the West, for centuries the West has told them what to do and what to think. China and Russia have a pact, overthrow the West, they are sick and tired with us.
Don't forget Russia and China are jealous of the USA. They don't understand how the USA remains resilient and strong. The open secret is America's faith in Jesus Christ. We are a praying country and although more are staying home because of age related issues, the internet allows people watch their church online. If you remember, during covid, there was an explosion of Churches going online and broadcasting that never did before. The American dollar is King still. China's economy is tanking; and Russia isn't buying from China like the USA was, so they are not that great of a Partership. Once oil is too cheap, Russia is toast.
 

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You must have believed Trump when He said Ukraine was the aggressor, but the just signed raw materials deal states that Russia is the aggressor. But tomorrow it can be easily the other way around.

You know, large parts of the world are completely done with the West, for centuries the West has told them what to do and what to think. China and Russia have a pact, overthrow the West, they are sick and tired with us.
Their is a Mob who control this world ?
Playing people for fools !

You claim completely done with the West ?
Issues for sure to be sure !

The West is being undermined totaly from within, due to Anti-Christ rat bag low life grubs !

The Mob that dominate over this world are the main issue, but they hide in the darkness, it's best that they are not seen, or they will be expossed !

We the People are being Played !

China has a Ledership that only wants to Dominate, that's a fact ! because it's Communist, the People of China are fine overall bar the brainwashed Nazi like creation that the Leadership has created !

Russia has gone through Hell, I feel for the majority that they have been on the wrong end of the stick, the cunning that was created on the Russian people kicked off as a Game play a nasty working bag of tricks all the handy work of the Mob ? It is this Mob ! that played Russia for fools, they went down to Japan and got their Fleet destroyed ! and they were finished as a Power player they once were. then the workings of the Talmud Mob created the workings of Communism to play the People for total fools !
They the Talmud Mob turned it's handy work to creat Nazis in regards tailored to play the German People !

And everything worked as was went to plan ! with the help thanks to the Media in all cases ! the Media has been a total whore !

Now comes the 3rd wave, so as to Totaly Dominate over the whold world and they are set to kill 8 in every 10 People ?
But How will they be able to carry such workings out ! Think about that ! It's set ! they have said so many a time by so many people that is what they demand ! Oh to save the Planet they say ! and look at all of their followers millions of Greenie Morons, they are all Communist ! they are not Green at all in fact, but a monumental load of brainwashed morons !

Now the issue is that we have people who clearly want to dominate over others rights ! Now we have to look out If such as they get offended, on ever retarded issue that is clearly just totaly pathetic ! They demand what others think in fact, but they Lie ! So when an issue comes up they work to play the issue all totaly one sided in fact !

They make demands, that one is a anti-Vaccine ! Period ! end of story ! such attitude are totaly Nazi like in fact 100% full on dictating over everyone like a total moron ! One stands up and points out that they are in no way against Vaccines at all in fact ! but only against a so called Vaxx Jab, that is totaly expermental and outright stupid in fact ! that if anyone was to be that stupid to take an expermental drug like that you are a retard ! It's just like as fif some moron came up to you saying Here try this drug ! Ok, You will take it ! why ! you must be a total fool ! that's a fact ! We did not know jack about the COVID Drug.
The whole set up stank to Hell of criminal intent ! the whole thing was pathetic ! and outright disgusting display of an attack on ones Human Rights in fact !
But look at all of the dipsticks who back such evil displays up ! Communist and Nazi types in fact !
The whole thing was a Crime in fact ! and anyone who can not see that it was, is a total fool in fact !

So one has to ask who the hell could they get away with all such criminal acts ! who did they undermine ? the Economy hugely, who did they destroy ! not to mention the deals that drug Companys and Government played over the People ! big money was made by who ?

If one does not ask such questions, then you may as well live under Communist China ! like a filthy stupid kicked about Mutt !

Who created all of the Gay BS !
Who created all of the Child grooming in Schools !
Not to mention no one can mention anything on such issues in fact, just as it was under Hitler's Nazi brainwashing tec. It's the same key intent of dominating over everyone in fact ! one would have to be a total moron not to ask ! Oh we can not for fear that we will loose our Job for having our own thoughts on an issue ! such is typical key of Nazi and the Communist in fact.

Their is aggression on both sides Ukraine and Russia in fact ! but the reason over looked is truly about Why !
Now why is that not exposed and on the Table in fact !
 

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They don't understand how the USA remains resilient and strong.
Every single military enterprise AFTER the 2nd WW initiated by the US has ended in disaster.
They left all countries where they moved into with US army or navy in chaos.
Every single one.


They lost all those actions with great expenses and young lives lost.
There is nothing resilient or strong about any of it.

To name a few:
Bay of pigs in Cuba.
Left Vietnam in disaster and go so on.
Left Iraq in shanbles.
Gave up Iran.

The only little success was in Kuwait because Sadam's army acted like a bunch of boy scouts


Don't forget Russia and China are jealous of the USA.
There is nothing to be jealous of.

Specially with this present administration wanting to devlp. an entertainment park in the Gaza Strip.
Casinos with all the criminal activity attached to it. Real Christian stuff....
 

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Right.

So you watch some videos, you see someone's enthusiasm, their support of good things happening, and voila, it's worship! It's not that they've done or said some act of worship, you just know they worship Trump.

My discernment is telling me something here.

I don't buy it. In my POV, people are being slandered on a wholesale basis. Even from you, claiming we're all sold out to Satan. What was it you said?
It's as though people keep "elevating" him to sainthood....(and where have we heard that before?).....they are not seeing him as he is. That tells me something, but I never used that language of being "sold out to Satan".

I'm more sorry to learn that you think you have the right to make such a pronouncement. And that you just keep doubling down on it.
Just telling you what I'm seeing brother. Church leaders, false ones, are installed as official employees, with official positions UNDER AND ANSWERABLE TO the highest government in the land as spiritual leaders, and the people who don't have a problem with it, who even love to have it so, are therefore complicit. That looks to me like a church taken captive, just like Israel was taken captive by Babylon, as an allegory for the church to take warning from.

And it's nonsense, and vanity. Maybe it makes you feel more important, that you can look down your nose at us blind and wretched Republicans or whatever, but to continue trashing US Christianity, can't you see, it's no good??
That is not my heart and not my attitude brother. The church here isn't faring any better. The western church in general is not in a good place. And who am I....I sometimes need reminding myself! I'm only watching your back and trying help get my brothers and sisters in the Lord to wake up to the danger they are in and walk themselves back. Walk back to a knowledge of and adherence to, the kind of Christianity that the Lord has given to us in accordance with the truth as set out in scripture.

You know, we can trust the Lord in these times. The worse this world waxes, the less God's people feel at home here and the more it separates us from this world and gets us looking UP and having our hopes and affections ABOVE. Maybe that is even His purpose.

I'm not nearly as upset by the re-election of this Liberal government here as I thought I might be. I was disappointed, yes, but I have peace that passes understanding. The sun still rises in its place, the birds are still chirping, and I know that I know that God is on His throne ruling as He sees fit. We must not throw away our confidence in the Lord...He knows what He is doing. And as Job said, "shall we accept only the good from God's hand and not the evil?" It turned out better for Job in the end, didn't it?
 

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Not for Christians. Its the Holy Spirit that guides us. Heart and emotion are pagan practices.
Well, yes, pagan....because unsanctified emotions are the way of the flesh. And blood-bought believers can still be ruled by emotion if we LET it rule. And I Iearned the hard way once that it is sin and idolatry, which can come with consequences. The Lord was gracious to deliver me, and thus I learned to keep a rein on my emotions and guard my heart.
 

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When the Lord decided to judge Babylon, He sent in a wrecking ball of His own, and nothing could stop it. Except repentance could have prevented Him from sending it. That wrecking ball was called Cyrus, destroyer of the Gentiles, a ravenous bird from the east. Are the times of the Gentiles drawing to an end in these days? The Gentiles have had over two thousand years to repent now. Do we see any repentance in our Gentile nations or do they continue down the path of increasing transgression? Just like our example Israel, only a remnant will be saved.

I don't see too many sighing and crying over the sins in the camp and in the land and calling for repentance these days, but I see many more trusting in the arm of the flesh. It's as though politics has supplanted the gospel as a means to salvation/rescue.
Spot on right sister . just as an rememant of the jews so too a remnant of the gentiles .
And i must add YOU made A WONDERFUL POINT .
DO WE see repentance , DO WE SEE many crying and sighing due to all THESE ABOMINATIONS WITHIN EVEN CHRISETNDOM .
NO we dont , rather we see many GOING With flow . Rather we see the wicked not repenting
DUE TO through these leaders lies , THEY HAVE PROMISED THEM LIFE .
BUT HAD these leaders actually USED GODS WORDS , they had repented . I GOT that from the bible .
WE DOING TODAY WHAT THE JEWS DID RIGHT BEFORE GOD HAD NEBB SMASH THEM ALL FLAT .
I MEAN ITS THE SAME THING Sister .
And just like back then if a man dares to speak truth , HE MAKES HIMSELF prey to their teeth .
WHAT ISRAEL , WHAT JERSUSALM DID , I TELL US ALL CHRISTENDOME NOW DOES .
This leaders lead this people to their own death and promise them peace .
JUST AGAIN like the false ones did in JERUSALEM . I NEVER SEEN a more identical pattern in all my life .
 
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When the Lord decided to judge Babylon, He sent in a wrecking ball of His own, and nothing could stop it. Except repentance could have prevented Him from sending it. That wrecking ball was called Cyrus, destroyer of the Gentiles, a ravenous bird from the east. Are the times of the Gentiles drawing to an end in these days? The Gentiles have had over two thousand years to repent now. Do we see any repentance in our Gentile nations or do they continue down the path of increasing transgression? Just like our example Israel, only a remnant will be saved.

I don't see too many sighing and crying over the sins in the camp and in the land and calling for repentance these days, but I see many more trusting in the arm of the flesh. It's as though politics has supplanted the gospel as a means to salvation/rescue.
Those who sigh , weep and sorrow for all this evil getting done ,
Are the sheep and we been marked sister , sealed too .
GO , and mark all who cry and sorrow for the abominations . THEY WERE PROTECTED from the wrath .
SO TOO are HIS SHEEP TODAY . this generation has no idea what is about to come upon it .
And just as it was in the days of ISRAEL so too IT IS and has become ON CHRISTENDOM .
And as the JERSUALEM rejected CHRIST , SO TOO does todays christendom
as it preaches satans interfaith and promises peace . JUST as the false ones prophesied and said YE SHALL have peace .
ONLY i sure dont remember PEACE UPON THEM . WELL their will be NO PEACE for these either .
THE ANSWER and only answer is JESUS THE CHRIST and THE DIRE NEED OF REPENTANCE .
but seeing many within christendom chose and choose to follow another jesus , hope in men
trust in men and in their leaders WHO HAVE CAST THE WORDS OF GOD FAR behind them . WELL IT AINT LOOKING to good
at all for those who do so . TO those who prophesised the lies and to those who sat under them
THEY ALL GOING DOWN on the DAY OF THE LORD . all we can do , is warn and remind . but
marvel not if you and we who do warn and remind , ARE FLAT OUT REJECTED by this generation .
 
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It's as though people keep "elevating" him to sainthood....(and where have we heard that before?).....they are not seeing him as he is. That tells me something, but I never used that language of being "sold out to Satan".


Just telling you what I'm seeing brother. Church leaders, false ones, are installed as official employees, with official positions UNDER AND ANSWERABLE TO the highest government in the land as spiritual leaders, and the people who don't have a problem with it, who even love to have it so, are therefore complicit. That looks to me like a church taken captive, just like Israel was taken captive by Babylon, as an allegory for the church to take warning from.


That is not my heart and not my attitude brother. The church here isn't faring any better. The western church in general is not in a good place. And who am I....I sometimes need reminding myself! I'm only watching your back and trying help get my brothers and sisters in the Lord to wake up to the danger they are in and walk themselves back. Walk back to a knowledge of and adherence to, the kind of Christianity that the Lord has given to us in accordance with the truth as set out in scripture.

You know, we can trust the Lord in these times. The worse this world waxes, the less God's people feel at home here and the more it separates us from this world and gets us looking UP and having our hopes and affections ABOVE. Maybe that is even His purpose.

I'm not nearly as upset by the re-election of this Liberal government here as I thought I might be. I was disappointed, yes, but I have peace that passes understanding. The sun still rises in its place, the birds are still chirping, and I know that I know that God is on His throne ruling as He sees fit. We must not throw away our confidence in the Lord...He knows what He is doing. And as Job said, "shall we accept only the good from God's hand and not the evil?" It turned out better for Job in the end, didn't it?
Sister its all a sell out . This people has been decieved and have loved to have it so .
DONT think for one second that brings me any pleasure to say that . IT brings tears .
And if folks wont hear , wont repent , WELL THEN BROAD IS their road to DESTRUCTION .
GOD warned , the prophets warned , HIS CHRIST warned , the apostels warned , and his sheep have warned .
But many hear not . rather than repentance the heart grows very hard . REBELLION GROWS and GROWS
and it will lead all on that path TO total destruction .
Sheep learn . but goats justify .
Sheep repent , but goats cover their sins and glorify the unholy pratices of men gone wrong .
Rebuke a wise man and HE WILL SURELY LOVE THEE . but rebuke the wicked and they HEAR NOT A WORD and WILL FANG YOU
if you expose their men , their sins , their leaders .
SHEEP have one KING and ONE KINGDOM . and IT AINT HERE SISTER . HE IS ABOVE as is our JERSUALEM .
Rebuke a sheep and he will love thee . rebuke a goat , and though he cries HE LOVETH GOD , he will hate thee
to thy face . Many who beleive they are sheep , ARE NOT . And those in error who are his , WILL REPENT OF IT .
But the goats will wax only worse and worse and be led only into more rebellion and utter hatred against CHRIST and the saints .
 
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Sheep learn . but goats justify .
Sheep repent , but goats cover their sins and glorify the unholy pratices of men gone wrong
Amen, that is so very true brother. Bullseye. We can either learn and grow from our mistakes, or refuse to learn and double down on them. I think of repentance as being the best kept secret in Christendom. Not many seem to believe in it any more. I hear God pleading and pleading with His people, "only ACKNOWLEDGE your sins...." Scripture also says if we CONFESS our sins He will be faithful and just to forgive and also cleanse us. But to keep refusing to acknowledge our wrong and trying to justify and excuse it instead....that can't end well. So important that we remain pliable clay in the Potter's hands, so that He can keep working on us.... if we harden ourselves we will end up in pieces on the floor.
 
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Amen, that is so very true brother. Bullseye. We can either learn and grow from our mistakes, or refuse to learn and double down on them. I think of repentance as being the best kept secret in Christendom. Not many seem to believe in it any more. I hear God pleading and pleading with His people, "only ACKNOWLEDGE your sins...." Scripture also says if we CONFESS our sins He will be faithful and just to forgive and also cleanse us. But to keep refusing to acknowledge our wrong and trying to justify and excuse it instead....that can't end well. So important that we remain pliable clay in the Potter's hands, so that He can keep working on us.... if we harden ourselves we will end up in pieces on the floor.
They will tear your head off with false accusations if you touch their idol and expose their sin .
I could use a lot of words to fill in the blanks of those idols .
Here is a few .
IF one touches their biden , their trump , their pope , their leader , their sin .
You touch their golden bull , and you can bring tons of scrips to prove to them , THEY WONT HEAR ONE WORD you say .
And at most bring the few scrips THEY SOLD OUT LEADERS who they love so much sold them
AND guess what sister, ITS ALWAYS TWISTED to fit , what they truly desire to believe . A LIE .
I know that sounds harsh to this generation but its true sister .
 

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Amen, that is so very true brother. Bullseye. We can either learn and grow from our mistakes, or refuse to learn and double down on them. I think of repentance as being the best kept secret in Christendom. Not many seem to believe in it any more. I hear God pleading and pleading with His people, "only ACKNOWLEDGE your sins...." Scripture also says if we CONFESS our sins He will be faithful and just to forgive and also cleanse us. But to keep refusing to acknowledge our wrong and trying to justify and excuse it instead....that can't end well. So important that we remain pliable clay in the Potter's hands, so that He can keep working on us.... if we harden ourselves we will end up in pieces on the floor.
In case you might not have realized this , Almost this entire site either has me on ignore or just ignores
and dont even try and respond to me anymore .
But dont you worry none sister . I am here for one reason . To speak truth and that do include exposing what is false .
AND , what many dont seem to realize is , We got watchers sister . SHEEP that might be watching
and reading and not responding . Just gives me more time to speak truth and expose satans interfaith
and other lies , WITHOUT the constant interruption of their attacks .
They actually believe if you choke one out and dont respond that in time they either give in
or just go away . NOT this sheep , I just do as i am led and type as i type .
Those who hear amen . The enemy is very wise , never make the mistake of thinking he aint .
BUT this sheep follows HE WHO IS WISDOM , HE who created all . So their tatics dont work sister .
In fact it actually works against evil . Gives me more time without interruptoin
to speak the truth , to correct them and show doctrine without their response . AND to the sheep that might be reading
WELL THAT IS WONDERFUL good news . Their is only one solution for them .
Guess due to blindness , FOR NOW , they aint been allowed to see and do it ,
YET . Maybe many are still buying into the well we dont judge so we dont want to run him off .
EVEN that gives me time to continue by grace to SPEAK TRUTH and expose the lies .
BUT doors do close sister . As i say to them , CHOOSE YE THIS DAY and DO what ye shall
BUT this sheep gonna keep on doing as he is led to do . NO MAN can stop me .
They can ban me , even kill me , But TRUTH will never be silenced . there are sheep scattered everywhere .
And if i be banned , I just go elsewhere . My mission is ONE mission . TO GLORIFY AND HONOR HE WHO HAS SAVED ME
to DO all for the good of others even if it costs me all . And we aint even began to see real persecutoins yet sister .
BUT we will . The lovey do of satan will lead to the great betrayal worldwide by which a massive amont of sheep will bleed .
 

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To the trenches the sheep have the TRUE JOY of the LORD and no man can take that from us .
To the LORD be all glory , to the LORD be all praises with thanksgivings .
This life is but a vapor and soon ALL the sheep will be forever HOME with HE who has saved us and kept us from falling .
BUT WOE to the shepards who fleeced this people and WOE to those who sat under such and loved their lies .
The time for repentance is not tomorrow , ITS TODAY . SEEING i desire LIFE and GOOD for all
i continue by grace to warn and to expose what is false and to point to CHRIST and to remind all , ITS BIBLE TIME folks .
GET IN IT and love it . cause many be the fleecers of men and many they be who love to be fleeced
but in their end they wont be loving that . AND I DONT desire that for them . SO warn i must and
No man here can stop me . Forward march cause times will get worse against the true sheep .
But fear it not , fear not man , WE GOTS A GOOD ENDING IN A REAL NICE HOME PREPARED BY GOD .
DO all to correct any who is in any error and expose always what is false , WHO is false
do all for the good of the church .