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Discussion in 'Current Events & Politics Forum' started by JohnDB, Nov 21, 2020.

  1. JohnDB

    JohnDB Well-Known Member

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    Government agencies are now informing front line workers that they will be receiving the first injections in just 8 weeks.

    That coupled with new treatments from already existing medications for the cytokine storms produced...

    We will have this thing kicked by next Christmas.
     
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    One of the interesting things coming out of this is what happens when you vaccinate someone who is an asymptomatic carrier of this virus. (About half of currently working medical staff is asymptomatic)

    That's gonna be interesting to see.
     
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    Which vaccine are they using?
     
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    Currently there are two front runners.
    And a dozen behind them.

    But so far the most promising vaccine is Moderna's mRNA vaccine. It only requires normal freezing and refrigeration to keep it's shelf life.

    No fetal tissues are used in it like Astra-Zeneca's vaccine is.

    Pfizer's vaccine requires -80C storage. It's a lot more unstable.

    The group closely behind and my favorite is the Novovax vaccine. It has the strongest and best reaction by far. It uses moth cells to deliver the spike protein required for a proper immune response.


    None of these vaccines are without side effects. Most are going to require a couple of days to recover. (Get the tag from that truck) And then you won't really have protection for about a month from the first injection as you have to wait for two weeks after the second injection.

    But then... you are actually protected. And if the reports are correct you actually will not be an asymptomatic carrier like about half of the existing medical staff in America is.

    You're in OZ...so I'm not sure exactly when the vaccine will arrive. But I wouldn't imagine that you will have too long of a waiting time.

    Like me, you probably will be getting your first injections around the spring or summer.
    Unfortunately we aren't that important to our governments and so we are fairly far down the list.
     
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    They've started making the AstraZeneca vax not far from here... Waste of time and money considering it's only 50% effective...

    Their going to force it and it will be a crime against humanity
     
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    As far as I know their phase three trial numbers aren't in yet.
    Do you have a report with them?

    Moderna's numbers looked great.
    Even had many people lose all virus from lung tissues after two days of infection. (Infection immunity as well as disease immunity)
     
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    Ye their assuming the vax will pass the rushed trials so they've started manufacturing the vax.

    50% efficacy, 95% efficacy... The immune system of a 40 year old is 99.95% effective so why would i want the vax...
    It would be good to hear about how safe it is... Is it 90% safe, 95%... They won't say... All they say is that "it's safe"... Ye sure

    Everyone who won't take the vax are going to be discriminated against, demonized, persecuted, prosecuted and incarcerated...
     
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    Moderna's mRNA vaccine is >95% effective.
    The biggest side effects are that for one or two days after you take it you will feel like a truck ran over you.

    So...fair warning...get your shots on a Friday so you can lay down and die right during the weekend.
     
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    That's efficacy, it's not the same as effectiveness...

    Cmon mate there will be people that get severe reactions, even die from these experimental vaccines... They are an experiment, remember...
    Who knows what the vaccines will do after a year or how it will react to all the different medications and illnesses that people have...

    Umm... Im not lining up to get any shot... I decide what i take with the help of my physician, not these health bureaucrats... LoL
     
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    That's what stage three trials are about...

    Tens of thousands of people getting injections of the Vaccines and then reporting on effective results.

    With the Moderna vaccine of tens of thousands and then looking at the numbers of who got Covid-19....

    Out of every 100 cases of infection 95 were those that got no vaccine. 4 who got vaccinated got the virus too but got a very mild case where 11 that didn't get the vaccine went into the hospital with severe cases.

    I'm not exactly sure how they lost a person for every 100 but then again that's scientists calculus formulas.
     
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    At this point nothing said by manufacturers about politicized vaccines can be trusted. So vaccines should be avoided like the plague.
     
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    the question is if they tell you that you either take the vaccine or you cannot buy or sell will you take it??

    they already have the foundation laid with mask requirements, many stores you enter require a mask or you cannot buy anything, will the vaccine change anything?? or enhance everything that is already in place??
     
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    A vaccine will allow me and my friends to move about without restrictions.

    I can safely go back to work and seeing my parents without fear that I'm some form of typhoid Mary.
     
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    The Anti-vac people are going to get an award for avoiding taking one of the Vaccines...

    Unfortunately it's going to be a Darwin Award.
     
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    the question is if they tell you that you either take the vaccine or you cannot buy or sell will you take it??
     
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    I'm not going to wait for them to tell me that.

    I'm wanting my Vaccines as soon as possible.

    If you want to win a Darwin Award...that's on you mate!

    I'm going to get back to my ministries ASAP.
     
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    They wont even have to say that . They instead will fear monger the world that anyone who has not taken it
    is a threat to society , a danger . And who will hire folks that could be a danger to their health . They
    know what they are doing . Its why in large the media shut out anyones voice who had found things that could
    work great on the covid . THEY want us scared and fearing for our lives so we take that shot .
    This has a serious spooky ringto it . Not to mention , invesitgate and dig deep and find out what is really in this shot .
    Imagine a society where those who refuse it , the folks are so scared of folks wont hire
    NO proof of vaccination and you will have a hard time getting entrance into even simple stores . AND in large
    the peoples wont fight it , cause they are already to scared for their own lives with covid . ITS gonna work on them my friend .
    This plan is gonna work . But dont that sound eerily familiar to this ,
    And they could not function in society , lest they had the vaccine .
    TO this ...............And that no man could buy or sell save he that had the mark .
    I cant claim the vaccine is the mark , But i know whats in it , and i aint touching the nasty thing .
    Folks need to do their own research and fast .
     
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    If they get a vaccine and I don't, why should they fear me?? Shouldn't a vaccine supposedly protect them from getting it from an unvaccinated person?
     
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