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Discussion in 'Current Events & Politics Forum' started by JohnDB, Nov 21, 2020.

  1. Cristo Rei

    Cristo Rei Well-Known Member

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    LoL... Anti-vaxer... Its just a cheap ad hominem...

    How about trying to calm down instead of resorting to insults... Now... We have...

    A vaccine that has been rushed and not tested over time
    An experimental vaccine that has never been used on humans
    A vaccine that violates my religious beliefs
    A vaccine that hasn't been tested on people with my comorbidities and taking my medication
    A vaccine that will maim, disable and kill healthy people
    Its only 50% effective (the one we're getting)
    For a virus that gives me no symptoms

    They're just some of the valid reasons that "anti-vaxers" are so skeptical...
    Have you got at least one valid reason why we must risk our lives on this vaccine?
    Im talking about a valid reason, not derogatory ad hominems
     
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    Cristo Rei Well-Known Member

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    I can handle being persecuted by the government but it hurts when your fellow man persecutes you simply for exercising your right to choose...
     
  3. JohnDB

    JohnDB Well-Known Member

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    There's no rational reason to fear an unvaccinated person if you have been vaccinated.

    The biggest issue coming up soon is the same as we have been having.

    Not enough Vaccines to go around.

    Delays in delivery or availability is going to be problematic for a while. Availability of the vaccine you want might also become an issue.
     
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    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    The site wont let me post a video . But a lady did some serious research
    and she found out what was really in the vaccine .
    AND OH YES it violates our religious beliefs . I aint touching the wicked nasty thing .
    I wish i could send you the video , i cant even pm the thing . But oh yes she did her homework .
     
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    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    OH its gonna get worse my friend . soon it wont just be words and insults , but real persecution is on the way .
     
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    It's not 50% effective. It's a lot more than that because those who were in the trials here in America were given saline instead of any vaccine. (You can tell the difference)

    So those who got vaccinated and felt like a truck ran over them were confident of what they got. Those who got saline were less sure.

    And I guarantee you that if I was one of those who knew I got the real thing I would have gone to work putting it to the test.

    I'd have repeatedly exposed myself to the virus. And stayed healthy.
     
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    That would be the AstraZeneca vaccine made from aborted fetal tissue. Kidneys to be exact.
     
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    Despite reports that Moderna’s vaccine has no connection to fetal cell lines from elective abortions, the creation of the company’s COVID-19 vaccine isn’t so morally clear cut.


    TYLER, Texas — Because there are differing claims about the ethics of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, some clarifications need to be made, especially since phase III trials are concluding. What Catholics are willing to accept as ethical, despite unethical associations, for the first COVID-19 vaccines released publicly could influence the availability of more ethically sound options going forward.

    Bishop Joseph Strickland in the Diocese of Tyler, who is known for his straight talk and defense of the faith, tweeted on Nov. 16: “Moderna vaccine is not morally produced. Unborn children died in abortions and then their bodies were used as ‘laboratory specimens.’ I urge all who believe in the sanctity of life to reject a vaccine which has been produced immorally.”

    Measuring Moderna’s COVID-19 Vaccine: Now’s the Time to Press Hard for Ethical Options
     
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    Here Are All the Side Effects of Every Top COVID-19 Vaccine in US

    Moderna: chills, fevers, headache, shortness of breath, pain in the arm

    Pfizer: fever, fatigue, chills, redness and swelling

    AstraZeneca: neurological disorder

    Johnson & Johnson: unexplained illness

    Here Are All the Side Effects of Every Top COVID-19 Vaccine in US
     
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    There is still a justice system in all countries in the West, so what will need to be done is a class action suit against those who try to enforce vaccination.

    With top notch lawyers to expose all the fraud and criminality connected with this scamdemic, governments might be forced to shell out millions in damages and compensation. But it will take a lot of cash to hire those lawyers also. So if 1,000 or 10,000 people join together, then it could still be a reasonable cost. Or if one wealthy and well-known opponent decides to take on a government, that could also work. And we need an F. Lee Bailey today.

    The only problem is that there are not too many who are daring to question all the nonsense which is being stated and published, and all the lies being spread to promote vaccination.
     
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    Sounds like a horror movie.
     
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    so people who think different then you are stupid,, now that is something to shake ones head at, but I wont do that, you fruit has been exposed, prune it before it ruins the whole tree.

    Hey Brother I am going to share this on another forumn thanks for the info
     
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    But this is assuming that the Vaccines only prevent disease instead of infection.

    Many of the current front runners are preventing infection.

    And we will know more in the next few weeks as the Vaccines begin to be administered.
     
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    JohnDB Well-Known Member

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    If I tell you that a big wire is hot and energized with 1100 volts and you insist it isn't because it isn't radiating heat...so you grab it anyway and die.

    What can I do but shake my head.
     
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    that is a sign for the lack of fruit of the spirit, I will pray for you, when I see the same situation my heart bleeds
     
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    You have to tell that to the people who made the vaccines. They are the chaps who said it is not a silver bullet and that we still will need mask and physical distancing. We should never put our heads in the clouds and think this is going to solve everything, it won't. Reminds me of my nephew whom had stars in his eyes because he thought moving would eliminate his problems. Turns out his problems followed him and he got new ones too. Just because there is a vaccine doesn't mean it is a pie in the sky event and it maybe more like the flu shot instead of a complete vaccine. They have said this new Covid vaccine could causes many problems for people and the virus makers want to be upfront about it and not have people think it is a cure all because it will not be, it will be a start.

    Now I am not saying I will not get the vaccine but I will let you all go first. Last time a vaccine was done fast it killed more than helped so if you all don't die I figure it will be safe.
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    “Some of the American public’s hesitance to embrace vaccines — the flu vaccine in particular — can be attributed to the long-lasting effects of a failed 1976 campaign to mass-vaccinate the public against a strain of the swine flu virus,” writes Rebecca Kreston for Discover. “This government-led campaign was widely viewed as a debacle and put an irreparable dent in future public health initiative, as well as negatively influenced the public’s perception of both the flu and the flu shot in this country.”

    To begin with: You should get a flu shot. You should certainly get all of your other vaccines and make sure your children get them. They will protect you and others from getting deadly and debilitating things like mumps, whooping cough, polio and measles. But this is a story about one time over 40 years ago when poor decision-making on the part of the government led to the unnecessary vaccination of about 45 million citizens. We can't blame it for the modern anti-vaccine movement, which has more recent roots in a retracted paper that linked one vaccine to autism, but it certainly had an effect on the public's view of vaccines.


    The Long Shadow of the 1976 Swine Flu Vaccine 'Fiasco' | Smart News | Smithsonian Magazine

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    So not everyone is dumb who doesn't want to get the vaccine, nor do they earn the Darwin award that is not a fair assessment to just label people like that.
     
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    Yes, I know...
     
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    If they remove themselves from the gene pool because they didn't get vaccinated and they had no reason not to except conspiracy theory nonsense...they won the Darwin Award.
     
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