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VictoryinJesus

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If anyone posts anything contrary to Scripture, point it out.

(with Scriptural reference if available or known)

Truth: Few people find the narrow road to life.

Question: Why does God say most people follow /stay on / the wide road to destruction ?

there are opinions, yeah? Agree with others here that truth changes (shifts and turns like a shadow) by interruption. so undoubtedly something can be claimed or pushed as “THE truth” but does that always make it true? by whose authority? Have an opinion or question concerning: “few people find the narrow road”. Why is that so revered? what does man get out of it as being a go to verse of quoting? Not saying you have but why stop at “few find it” and boast in that few find it(Life)? His children are called to be lights, shining bright in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation. for what reason if not to magnify “the way”. “Make that crooked, straight” LIGHTS to shine bright that the way which leads to Life (few find)is MAGNIFIED. Why desire few to find The way that leads to Life? When He came that they may have Life and to magnify the way which leads to it...a light shining in to the darkness. Again, not speaking of you as I don’t know you, but only asking by what has been the experience in the past: people go out and preach to “save souls” even adding their so called “conversations” to their notches of those “saved”. yet take pleasure in the “few will find it?” The word says all have “gone out of the way” in this broad path(Way) that leads to destruction. Romans 3:10-17 speaks of the way of peace they have not known.

Quoting constantly “few find it“ neglects that He said “one must be born from above”. Isn’t that what the church tells people, “one must be borne again” and don’t we want more....many and not few born of God? God says His ways and thoughts are higher...from above and how “you have borne the image” of the way and thoughts from beneath...you must Also be borne of His ways and His thoughts which are from above (not of this world)and bear the image of the heavenly. How contradictory to be “lights shining bright” of the way but stuck back at “few find it”. In the OT God promised He would rebuke the devourer and to “prove Him” before nations and kings and see if He did not pour out a blessing from above. Where are His children borne from? Beneath or above? To open the windows of Heaven. A blessing and fruits so plentiful And abundant in Life it would take “many” more rooms And a Greater House to contain all the blessing received. Jesus Christ said He went to prepare room and in His Fathers House are many mansions...not few...MANY. For His Harvest is Great and He is the vine. Does the Vine bear not much fruits? We cry out for God to open the windows of heaven and to pour out His blessing ...yet continue in “few find it” which is the same as saying “few are born from above” ...then stop counting notches of conversions if there are only a few.
 
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Quoting constantly “few find it“ neglects that He said “one must be born from above”.
These two statements from Scripture are each true, and in complete harmony with each other, not as if something is neglected.
 

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yet continue in “few find it” which is the same as saying “few are born from above”
This is exactly true - no contradiction at all, exactly as confirmed with all Scripture, all of God's Plan and Purpose.
 

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This is never truth. (not by interruption, not by interpretation) The truth never changes.

exactly God magnified the way ...His Son.
John 3:6-7 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. [7] Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

The broad way which leads to destruction ...that born of the flesh is flesh.
And the way which leads to Life: that born of Spirit is spirit “Ye must be born again” ...so you truly believe few are born again?
John 15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

Hebrews 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Come on...you truly believe when God “is grieved” and is “long suffering” enduring the vessels of destruction...that He might make known His Mercy...that He doesn’t want His ways known but to only a few. You quote it often: My people perish for lack of knowledge. (Of His ways and thoughts).
 
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The Apostles had nothing to do with the roman catholic beginnings, etc...
They did WARN the EKKLESIA (and US EKKLESIA TODAY), that those wolves were already circling the flocks, waiting for the Apostles to leave(depart / die) , and that they would then swoop in to devour the flock, which is what happened.....

THe Apostles of Jesus would be , again, put to death, again, by the roman bablyon group, if they were alive....
and the followers of Jesus are daily led to slaughter like sheep, as written.
The ones who are not of Jesus, but of the world, are daily deceived, and bought and sold like chattel by the world religion and politics group(s).

Since we cannot make those in error refrain from posting, we can just make note of it, as stated in the OP.....
FYI...the Apostles DID decide what was heretical
 

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that born of Spirit is spirit “Ye must be born again” ...so you truly believe few are born again?

since you elude questions. asking again “that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. [7] Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.” Are you saying few are born of the Spirit?
 

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FYI...the Apostles DID decide what was heretical
The Father REVEALED TO THEM, as always, and they knew the false gospel of Rome that was coming, that was from babylon, is heretical, yes - it has always been known.
 

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The Father REVEALED TO THEM, ....
True, it was revealed to them and what they bound on earth was bound in heaven (Mathew 18:18).

Do you believe that the authority to bind and loosen is no longer in effect? God will NEVER again reveal to man what is heretical?
 

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True, it was revealed to them and what they bound on earth was bound in heaven (Mathew 18:18).

Do you believe that the authority to bind and loosen is no longer in effect? God will NEVER again reveal to man what is heretical?
As noted for centuries, the false babylon religion received no authority from God at all.
 

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God reveals what is heretical today to all of His little children and all of His people.

Babylon is always heretical, and receive nothing good from God - only Judgment for their sin.
 

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God reveals what is heretical today to all of His little children and all of His people.

Babylon is always heretical, and receive nothing good from God - only Judgment for their sin.
Are you one of His “little children “ ?
 

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Question: Why does God say most people follow /stay on / the wide road to destruction ?
The wide road to destruction is the one on which the whole human race is traveling. All religions other than Bible Christianity fail.

Christ Himself is the narrow gate, and following Christ is the narrow way (which in some cases can lead to martyrdom). But before one can be on the narrow way one must enter through Christ, who is the Door.

There are many Christians (some right here) who have not fully comprehended the finished work of Christ and what it means for a Christian.
 

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This is never truth. (not by interruption, not by interpretation) The truth never changes.
Funny though, how many religions are based on scripture, how many people stand in complete opposition to God and His truth, using scripture, the only truth we have is Christ, He is the truth and in Him there is no lie, if we are willing to go to Him we will find it. everything else is mens wisdom which is nothing.
 
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God and He has deemed them all that way.
There are men in wolves clothing amongst us who have heretical teachings. To whom does He reveal the heretical teachers?