Two Resurrections of the Dead

[robert derrick]

There are actually three known resurrections of the dead: First Jesus Christ, then the resurrection of all His people at His return, and finally the resurrection of all the rest of the dead at the last judgment.

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

The first resurrection of the bodies of other men and women, after that of Jesus, is the blessed one of all His people.

In John 6, Jesus spoke of the resurrection of His own people only, at the last day. Paul speaks of the resurrection of the body of Christ alone, when He returns to meet Him in the air.

I say the last day therefore, is the last day of sinful man's rule on earth, since being driven from the garden. It is not the last day of the earth, which is by fire not only on the earth, but is also in the air, where the Lord and His saints are, and among all the stars.

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Without making assumptions, nor reading one's own doctrine into Scripture, these two verses do not have to be speaking of the same event.

The first only speaks of the righteous at the end of the last days of tribulation put upon them, which confirms the first resurrection being only of the people of God.

The second then is speaking of many, not all of people in history, being resurrected unto life or shame. That confirms the rest of the dead being resurrected to live again and also be found in the Lamb's book of life or cast into the lake of fire.

One thing is sure, there must be at least two resurrections of the dead, unless someone doesn't believe Jesus Christ is already resurrected from the dead, and so don't believe in any resurrection at all.

 

[robert derrick]

The lesson in taking Scripture literally, is not just about an event being literal or symbolic, but is more so about taking the words literally as written, and so make proper sense of the doctrine of Scripture.

Those who don't take Scripture literally, include them that wrest the words out of place, or out of context, or ignore some words altogether.

In Scripture, on or two words are proofs of the teaching, and are plainly ignored by teachers of their own doctrine. Not only must we take all Scripture into account, but we must also acknowledge all words in each verse of Scripture.

The words of the Scriptures themselves are undeniable: By context of John 6, and Paul's writings, there is the resurrection of the saints alone, And that resurrection is called the first resurrection in Scripture.

And then there is the rest of the dead living again after a thousand years.

The words themselves, taken literally, says there are two resurrections of bodies of men and women, and so reading Daniel with that in mind, we can separate Daniel 12:1-2 from one another as being two different resurrections: First the righteous saints from Abel unto the Lord's return, and then the rest of the dead bodies of men and women, which will be many, not all of them of history.

Some will join the saints in the new heaven and earth, and all others of history will be cast into the lake of fire.

 

[robert derrick]

Taking all the words of Scripture into account, without reading anything of our own into them, there are two bodily resurrections of all men and women, whether doing righteousness or evil.

First there is the righteous in Christ Jesus at His return, and then many more, which is all the rest of the dead, will be resurrected unto eternal life in the Lamb's book, or everlasting death in the lake of fire.

God means every word He has written into every Scripture on earth.

 

[Randy Kluth]

The lesson in taking Scripture literally, is not just about an event being literal or symbolic, but is more so about taking the words literally as written, and so make proper sense of the doctrine of Scripture.

Those who don't take Scripture literally, include them that wrest the words out of place, or out of context, or ignore some words altogether.

In Scripture, on or two words are proofs of the teaching, and are plainly ignored by teachers of their own doctrine. Not only must we take all Scripture into account, but we must also acknowledge all words in each verse of Scripture.

The words of the Scriptures themselves are undeniable: By context of John 6, and Paul's writings, there is the resurrection of the saints alone, And that resurrection is called the first resurrection in Scripture.

And then there is the rest of the dead living again after a thousand years.

The words themselves, taken literally, says there are two resurrections of bodies of men and women, and so reading Daniel with that in mind, we can separate Daniel 12:1-2 from one another as being two different resurrections: First the righteous saints from Abel unto the Lord's return, and then the rest of the dead bodies of men and women, which will be many, not all of them of history.

Some will join the saints in the new heaven and earth, and all others of history will be cast into the lake of fire.

Yes, you nail it here. Dan 12, though mentioning the resurrection of the righteous and the resurrection of the wicked together, does *not* indicate they take place at the same time. They only indicate both resurrections follow the time of Israel's punishment, which is, I think, the entire NT era (Luke 21.23).

Rev 20 clarifies that the resurrection of the righteous, at the 2nd Coming of Christ, is to be separated from the resurrection of the wicked at the end of the Millennium. The resurrection of the righteous takes place immediately upon Christ's 2nd Coming so that we may reign with Christ for a thousand years over a still as-yet unglorified world.

Also, there will be another resurrection of the righteous at the end of the Millennium on behalf of those who comprise the Millennial Church. Obviously, there are going to still be more righteous people coming to Christ in the Millennial era, since it is in this era that God's promises to Abraham are fully fulfilled, for both Israel and for all the nations.

Gen 17.5 No longer will you be called Abram; your name will be Abraham, for I have made you a father of many nations.

Though the present age of the Christian Gospel has provided the preliminary impetus for this development, its ultimate fulfillment will be, I believe, in the Millennium, when Satan is bound.

 

[robert derrick]

Yes, you nail it here. Dan 12, though mentioning the resurrection of the righteous and the resurrection of the wicked together, does *not* indicate they take place at the same time. They only indicate both resurrections follow the time of Israel's punishment, which is, I think, the entire NT era (Luke 21.23).

Rev 20 clarifies that the resurrection of the righteous, at the 2nd Coming of Christ, is to be separated from the resurrection of the wicked at the end of the Millennium. The resurrection of the righteous takes place immediately upon Christ's 2nd Coming so that we may reign with Christ for a thousand years over a still as-yet unglorified world.

Also, there will be another resurrection of the righteous at the end of the Millennium on behalf of those who comprise the Millennial Church. Obviously, there are going to still be more righteous people coming to Christ in the Millennial era, since it is in this era that God's promises to Abraham are fully fulfilled, for both Israel and for all the nations.

Gen 17.5 No longer will you be called Abram; your name will be Abraham, for I have made you a father of many nations.

Though the present age of the Christian Gospel has provided the preliminary impetus for this development, its ultimate fulfillment will be, I believe, in the Millennium, when Satan is bound.

You are the first I've seen saying plainly there will be those saved during His earthly reign. To me it is a given, but you first supply prophecy of it, in terms of nations blessed in Abraham's faith during that time, which is also our own in Christ.

This also confirms the natural people under His rule will also become His born again people loving His rule:

And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

With Satan bound, and the Lord Himself reigning, with all His saints, I would think it will be a massive flowing into His spiritual kingdom, as well as unto His temple and throne at Jerusalem.

Scripture says they go there specifically for God:

Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

This also shows that the natural Jews will once again be the natural nation of the Lord.

What do you say about the restoration of a Jewish priesthood with blood sacrifices?

Plainly, what we are seeing is what could have happened over all the earth, if they had obeyed Him in Sinai, or recieved Jesus as Christ the first time.

It's the same promise they were offered before the Mount in Sinai:

Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

They first agreed to obey, and then turned from Him and His voice on the mount. They then had Him crucified on the cross. Next time, those Jewish natural sheep remaining on earth, will then obey Him to become the natural kingdom of priests for all the earth as first promised.

 

[Keraz]

This also shows that the natural Jews will once again be the natural nation of the Lord.

WE Christians ARE the Israelites of God, Galatians 3:26-29
WE will be His priests. Isaiah 66:21, Revelation 5:10
WE are his sheep, gathered into all of the holy Land, John 10:1-20, Ezekiel 34:11-16

The Jewish nation will be gone, Jeremiah 12:14 and the surviving remnant, Isaiah 6:11-13, Romans 9:27, will be so ashamed they will never speak out again. Ezekiel 16:63

As for there being two resurrections of the dead;
When Jesus Returns, the ONLY people He will resurrect will be the Great Trib martyrs, Revelation 20:4
ONLY after the Millennium, will all the rest of the dead; since Adam, be brought up to stand before Almighty God in Judgment. Rev 20:11-15
Then comes Eternity.

 

[ScottA]

There are actually three known resurrections of the dead: First Jesus Christ, then the resurrection of all His people at His return, and finally the resurrection of all the rest of the dead at the last judgment.

This is like saying there are four different gospels...as actually being different. But no, there is but one gospel, but four accounts.

 

[robert derrick]

WE Christians ARE the Israelites of God, Galatians 3:26-29

True.

WE will be His priests. Isaiah 66:21, Revelation 5:10

We are made His priests and kings now. (Rev 1:6) (1 Peter 2)

WE are his sheep, gathered into all of the holy Land, John 10:1-20, Ezekiel 34:11-16

The only holy land on earth now, is that land the Lord's people walk on.

The land promised to Abraham, that he walked on this earth, will be given to him at the Lord's return.

The Jewish nation will be gone, Jeremiah 12:14 and the surviving remnant, Isaiah 6:11-13, Romans 9:27, will be so ashamed they will never speak out again. Ezekiel 16:63

True for the unbelieving Jews now, but not true after His return, and the natural Jewish sheep will remain with the natural Gentile sheep.

Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

The resurrected saints, where there is neither Jew nor Gentile with rule them with the Lord.

As for there being two resurrections of the dead;
When Jesus Returns, the ONLY people He will resurrect will be the Great Trib martyrs, Revelation 20:4

The great trib martyrs are all saints that die in the faith of the Lord, beginning with righteous Abel.

Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

The last days of great tribulation upon the people of God began with Jesus' resurrection

But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.

The end of these last days will be with the bodily resurrection of all saints, since Abel.

The great tribulation the world has never seen before, since the flood, will be that of the wrath of God over all the earth, in plagues and mighty wonders from the Lord, to punish them that make war with Him.

ONLY after the Millennium, will all the rest of the dead; since Adam, be brought up to stand before Almighty God in Judgment. Rev 20:11-15

The rest of the dead since Adam, will include them not in the resurrection of all saints, as well as them living in the millennial kingdom of Christ on earth.

Then comes Eternity.

True

 

[Keraz]

We are made His priests and kings now. (Rev 1:6) (1 Peter 2)

Only figuratively now, Literally after Jesus Returns.

The only holy land on earth now, is that land the Lord's people walk on.

The land promised to Abraham, that he walked on this earth, will be given to him at the Lord's return.

The holy Land is all that area from the Nile to the Euphrates. We Christians will inherit it and will live there forever. Psalms 37:29, Romans 9:24-26

 

[jeffweeder]

There are actually three known resurrections of the dead: First Jesus Christ, then the resurrection of all His people at His return, and finally the resurrection of all the rest of the dead at the last judgment.

I can only count one bodily resurrection of the Lord's people after the heavens are no more.

Job 14:12
So man lies down and does not rise [again].
Until the heavens are no longer,
The dead will not awake nor be raised from their sleep.


Rev 20
11 And I saw a great white throne and Him who was seated upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them [for this heaven and earth are passing away].
12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the Book of Life; and the dead were judged according to what they had done as written in the books [that is, everything done while on earth].

13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, and death and Hades (the realm of the dead) surrendered the dead who were in them; and they were judged and sentenced, every one according to their deeds. 14 Then death and Hades [the realm of the dead] were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire [the eternal separation from God]. 15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the Book of Life, he was hurled into the lake of fire.

When the book of life is opened the dead in Christ will be revealed, the Great and the small to Glorification in Eternal life.
The sea will give up the rest of the dead who are not in the book of life to damnation and the LOF.

 

[MatthewG]

From what I understand there are three resurrections.

Resurrection of Unbelievers.
Resurrection of Believers. Perhaps Children.
Resurrection of believers but better than then normal one. Perhaps Sons or Daughters of God.

Do not know but there is only three, of course most people do not believe the white throne judgement or the judgement of those out of hell have come to be done yet. I do however believe they have passed, and we are judged but its different than what they experienced.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

There are actually three known resurrections of the dead: First Jesus Christ, then the resurrection of all His people at His return, and finally the resurrection of all the rest of the dead at the last judgment.

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

The first resurrection of the bodies of other men and women, after that of Jesus, is the blessed one of all His people.

In John 6, Jesus spoke of the resurrection of His own people only, at the last day. Paul speaks of the resurrection of the body of Christ alone, when He returns to meet Him in the air.

We all know that the rest of the dead are resurrected, judged and then cast into the lake of fire after the thousand years (and Satan's little season), right? You pointed out that the resurrection of Jesus's people will occur on the last day. What else occurs on the last day?

John 12:48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day.

So, Jesus indicated that the unsaved will be judged on the last day and His people will be resurrected on the last day as well. We know that the unsaved are judged after the thousand years. So, this places the last day and the resurrection of the saved after the thousand years.

I say the last day therefore, is the last day of sinful man's rule on earth, since being driven from the garden. It is not the last day of the earth, which is by fire not only on the earth, but is also in the air, where the Lord and His saints are, and among all the stars.

That is not what scripture teaches. The unsaved will be judged once the last day arrives and we all know they are judged after the thousand years (and Satan's little season).

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Without making assumptions, nor reading one's own doctrine into Scripture, these two verses do not have to be speaking of the same event.

How ironic for you to say that. The only way you can conclude that those two verses are not speaking of the same event is due to making assumptions and reading your doctrine into them.

The first only speaks of the righteous at the end of the last days of tribulation put upon them, which confirms the first resurrection being only of the people of God.

The second then is speaking of many, not all of people in history, being resurrected unto life or shame. That confirms the rest of the dead being resurrected to live again and also be found in the Lamb's book of life or cast into the lake of fire.

As I've told you before, "many" does not have to mean "not all". When Jesus said many are called, but few are chosen was He saying that not all are called? No. What that verse is saying is that the number of those who will be resurrected is "many". Another definition of the Hebrew word that was translated from is "a multitude". It's not saying that not all will be resurrected at that time, it's saying a huge number of people will be resurrected. There is no basis whatsoever for thinking that Daniel 12:2 is talking about something different than John 5:28-29 where Jesus said that a time is coming when ALL of the dead will be raised.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Only figuratively now, Literally after Jesus Returns.

Only figuratively? What does that mean? We are His priests spiritually now. It's as if you think spiritual things are meaningless and only physical things have any meaning.

The holy Land is all that area from the Nile to the Euphrates. We Christians will inherit it and will live there forever. Psalms 37:29, Romans 9:24-26

You have such low standards and expectations. We will inherit the entire new heavens and new earth! That is what Peter said we are looking forward to (2 Peter 3:13).

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

From what I understand there are three resurrections.

Resurrection of Unbelievers.
Resurrection of Believers. Perhaps Children.
Resurrection of believers but better than then normal one. Perhaps Sons or Daughters of God.

Where do you get this from? Please show me the scripture which teaches this.

How do you interpret this passage:

John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.

 

[MatthewG]

Sure @Spiritual Israelite,

Paul was aiming for the resurrection of the dead, speaking of the better resurrection (check the greek) Philippians 3:11; Hebrews 11:35

As for what Jesus said, I believe what John concludes in Revelation 21-22.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The lesson in taking Scripture literally, is not just about an event being literal or symbolic, but is more so about taking the words literally as written, and so make proper sense of the doctrine of Scripture.

I don't think Paul would agree with you on this.

1 Corinthians 2:10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

If everything was meant to be taken literally, as you claim, then there would be no need for spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit. You are very clearly wrong about this.

Those who don't take Scripture literally, include them that wrest the words out of place, or out of context, or ignore some words altogether.

What kind of nonsense is this? Why are you acting as if all of scriture is written in literal text when we all know that is not the case? Or are you looking out for a literal beast with seven literal heads and ten literal horns?

In Scripture, on or two words are proofs of the teaching, and are plainly ignored by teachers of their own doctrine. Not only must we take all Scripture into account, but we must also acknowledge all words in each verse of Scripture.

The words of the Scriptures themselves are undeniable: By context of John 6, and Paul's writings, there is the resurrection of the saints alone, And that resurrection is called the first resurrection in Scripture.

Where is the resurrection of John 6 called the first resurrection? That's not what I see. Instead, I see Christ's resurrection as being the one that is referred to as the first resurrection.

Acts 26:23 that the Messiah would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would bring the message of light to his own people and to the Gentiles.”

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.

And then there is the rest of the dead living again after a thousand years.

Those who have part in the first resurrection spiritually have part in Christ's resurrection (the first resurrection) and their souls are in heaven living and reigning with Christ there.

The words themselves, taken literally, says there are two resurrections of bodies of men and women, and so reading Daniel with that in mind, we can separate Daniel 12:1-2 from one another as being two different resurrections: First the righteous saints from Abel unto the Lord's return, and then the rest of the dead bodies of men and women, which will be many, not all of them of history.

You are twisting scripture by doing that. It very clearly says the righteous and wicked will be raised "at that time". It does not indicate that they will be raised at entirely separate times. You have to change the text for it to say that.

Daniel 12:1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. 2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

There is no basis whatsoever for claiming that the time when "everyone whose name is found written in the book" is delivered is a different time than when "multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. It very clearly indicates that the ones who are resurrected unto "everlasting life" are resurrected at generally the same time ("at that time") as those who are resurrected "to shame and everlasting contempt". Which is the same thing Jesus taught in John 5:28-29 as well.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Sure @Spiritual Israelite,

Paul was aiming for the resurrection of the dead, speaking of the better resurrection (check the greek) Philippians 3:11; Hebrews 11:35

He was not talking about separate resurrection events there, he was talking about people trying to obtain the best rewards that they can after being resurrected.

As for what Jesus said, I believe what John concludes in Revelation 21-22.

Which is? Please back up your words with scripture so that I don't have to guess as to what you're intending to say.

 

[MatthewG]

He was not talking about separate resurrection events there, he was talking about people trying to obtain the best rewards that they can after being resurrected.

The greek would be more telling, than just taking it for what it is. Did not say anything about separate events.

Talking about the better resurrection.

Which is? Please back up your words with scripture so that I don't have to guess as to what you're intending to say.

God has a place for unbelievers, and believers in the afterlife, according to John.

 

[MatthewG]

The only place this greek word is used is in Philippians 3:11;
resurrection
ἐξανάστασιν (exanastasin)
Noun - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's 1815: A rising up and out, resurrection. From exanistemi; a rising from death.

G1815 (Mounce)​

ἐξανάστασις

exanastasis

1x: a raising up; a dislodgment; a rising up; a resurrection from the dead, Php 3:11.

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G1815 (Strong)​

ἐξανάστασις

exanastasis

ex-an-as'-tas-is

From G1817; a rising from death: - resurrection.

Total KJV occurrences: 1

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G1815 (Thayer)​

ἐξανάστασις

exanastasis

Thayer Definition:

1) a rising up, a rising again

2) resurrection

Part of Speech: noun feminine

A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G1817

It's different than any other resurrection.

Every other resurrection is written as such:

resurrection
ἀνάστασις (anastasis)
Noun - Nominative Feminine Singular
Strong's 386: A rising again, resurrection. From anistemi; a standing up again, i.e. a resurrection from death (its author), or a recovery.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The greek would be more telling, than just taking it for what it is. Did not say anything about separate events.

Talking about the better resurrection.

You are not clear. How many different resurrection events do you believe in then? It seemed like you were saying you believe in 3.