ok thanks.....I will tentatively agree with this and wait for the Lord to confirm it. Song of Solomon talks about a king having virgins without number (believers without much intimacy with the Lord), three -score concubines and four-score queens. Speaking of three different levels of intimacy with the king...levels or depths of spiritual growth. Maybe that mirrors what Hepzibah is talking about with "three blessings".
Uncovering the Devil's Strategy
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I've heard a story similar to that before, like when Peter drowned. The world can take you under, but the heavenly can bring you above those reigns. However, one can't do it themselves, at least getting to God. That is by and through Yeshua.
I get encouraging, but alas, everyone must make their own decisions in the end. I will be one to go against the grain of what I find acceptable or not acceptable.
There is no pleasing God by ones actions of life. There is only pleasing of God which is of and by faith... which in itself is an action, but an action which is reliant upon the one whom gives us spiritual help through life.
Behold
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The Gospel is "about"... Christ on the Cross.....and what He accomplished there for the world, one believer at a time.
The Saint is every born again believer.
Evangelism is "about" leading people to Christ using The Gospel.
The "Gospel" is the "preaching of the Cross'.
Its this..
"The Gospel..........is the power of God unto salvation........... to every one that believeth"""
Calvinism is a "doctrine of devils".....so, you'll be right at home teaching that False information @Episkopos
It was designed for you by the Devil.
I agree.....but the dream I think was about going deeper with the Lord....just occurred that it reminds me of when the prophet was walking deeper and deeper into the river until it was over his head....I see that as being when the Lord takes the reins and we let Him take us with His current, so to speak. We need to let the Lord do a deeper work of cleansing in us and shine His light on (reveal) things that are hidden in the deep areas of our heart, hidden in darkness from our awareness.
I agree, and this is absolutely about faith.....I'm sure we could no more enter into a state of holiness without faith and the Holy Spirit than we could have become converted to Christ without those things when we were first saved.
Dan Clarkston
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Considering most preachers / churches are teaching the false doctrines of OSAS / eternal security... most people think all that is required for salvation is to have just a moment of faith and they are all good and can go back to living in sin and they're all good.
OSAS / eternal security is one of satan's most devious tricks as it acknowledges the introduction to the Lord (getting born again), but denies that was just the starting people never telling people we are to be new creatures in Christ walking with the Lord going forward.
In other words it sounds good on the surface and acknowledges some truth but does not represent the whole counsel of God as taught bny the Lord Jesus and His Apostles in God's Word.
The false teachers claim nobody can ever lose their salvation and all future sins are already forgiven causing baby Christians to stumble thru this false doctrine to believe they can live as sinners and still be saved as long as they had that moment of faith.
Go as deep as you want... I don't doubt that many people here place their faith and trust in God. How deep or far or whatever, is on themselves to go into trust them faithfully.
I just know I personally am not holy, and anything remotely holy that comes from which is good, pure, and of and from God, All I can do is thank him.
Im not ashamed to say these things, as I don't believe there has been anything inherently said that has been out of the way of reason. What is reason though, when it comes to faith, a choice...
I just can't believe someone or anyone who comes around, and desires to put demands and control or restrictions on me personally. Oh you must be this way etc...
The biggest "CHANGE" is from the evil heart a person use to have, thank you @Lizbeth
I just know I personally am not holy, and anything remotely holy that comes from which is good, pure, and of and from God, All I can do is thank him.
Im not ashamed to say these things, as I don't believe there has been anything inherently said that has been out of the way of reason. What is reason though, when it comes to faith, a choice...
I just can't believe someone or anyone who comes around, and desires to put demands and control or restrictions on me personally. Oh you must be this way etc...
The biggest "CHANGE" is from the evil heart a person use to have, thank you @Lizbeth
And while people can help people "change", the reality is actually allowing Yahavah overtime to work on individuals hearts and minds. Praise be to him. So the roundabout encouragement, is to go to God, and tell him, trust and believe, and faithfully become content with God because of Christ. The sins become less thought about. As the sins have been taken care of.
Doesn't mean you go out on a whim, and start sloughing people, downing them, degrading them, cause nothing of that is in any reality of love.
I've seen on here many times, where people will start downing people and their faith, as though they are the Hierarchy. GET REAL...
The only one whom has authority aside from parents over children is our governing government, president, supervisors, bosses. The bible is not the governing authority though it helps people spiritually as a guide to where one may be in life.
Yahavah is the authority, and I don't think it's good to doubt his ability to help people in their lives, without our actual need of being there.
You're taking this completely amiss. And I believe my dream was given to point the way and strengthen me for what was coming, not because I'm yet walking in what it was pointing to. The Holy Spirit leads and guides us....He just happened to do this with a dream that time. It was Jesus leading the way and so I follow on. We are on a journey of apprehending that for which Christ has apprehended us...that requires cooperating with the Lord and allowing Him to work, and not being afraid of the process or discouraged because it doesn't make us feel good about ourselves.. Anyway I'm not trying to push anything on anyone and think I better just leave it here.
That's all I'm talking about brother, letting the Lord work in us. Have a good evening.
Thanks! I don't doubt God speaks with people in dreams. How else are people over in Muslim countries be learning the truth concerning God and Yeshua. He probably shows ups in the Hindus dreams. God is calling all people, under all religions and things to come to him. That is truly wonderful, and it's not the devil that is hindering anything. It's human beings whom concern themselves in the darkness rather than the light it self.
John 3:19 And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil.
Doesn't say anything about the devil here in this line... PEople loved the darkness more than the light because why?
Their actions were evil.
Hopefully people have gathered up in which I have been trying to say all along.
Behold
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Satan created the darkness in this world. This is what is all around us.
Its his LIGHT.
So, when a person today, became a Christian....they were delivered from "Darkness to Light".= from the power of Satan, TO GOD".
Acts 26
Behold
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@MatthewG
Genesis is in the Old Testament.
Acts 26 is in the New Testament.
Paul wrote that verse......that explains when a person today, became a Christian....they were '""""""delivered from "Darkness to Light... from the power of Satan, TO GOD"""
Paul is the Apostle who wrote all the NT Doctrine for the Church, who told us that "Satan blinds the minds, of unbelievers or they would not be an unbeliever and would trust in Christ""..
2 Corinthians 4
Paul is the same apostle who wrote that He wanted to go to a certain city by "Satan hindered us"...
So, Satan is alive and well, and He is LITERALLY the reason that you believe that He's not active and not causing dark chaos in this world, right now, and tomorrow.
@Behold, your statement which you shared with me concerning darkness, remains untrue to me personally. I'm not truly interested in going back and forth. You can continue to believe the Devil is still around as it doesn't pertain to my lived life, where I live faithfully in the Devils defeat and Jesus full victory. Not that makes me better than anyone, it's just a place where I am at now, and have been for many years concerning Satan.
While some people may state "Matthew don't believe the devil is around anymore! He is a liar! He makes God out to be a liar!"
It's the Bible that clearly states the Devil had been done away with, whether or not you personally believe that is a personal matter. It's not a group collective needed in meaning everyone must believe what I believe. I don't care what many people may believe, and that is being honest, however when it comes to things which are making more sense than nonsense, I'll side with the truth I see as valid, in faith.
See there was a point in time where the devil was around, it was Israel (blinding people towards God, telling them that Jesus body was stolen and not risen --- etc...)
In that day in age before being destroyed in 70AD and Yeshua came back to save the bride, and the new heavens and new earth have now today been established.
Thank you for your comments, I do only half-heartedly accept them, as who knows who you are or I am at our core anyway on the internet.
While some people may state "Matthew don't believe the devil is around anymore! He is a liar! He makes God out to be a liar!"
It's the Bible that clearly states the Devil had been done away with, whether or not you personally believe that is a personal matter. It's not a group collective needed in meaning everyone must believe what I believe. I don't care what many people may believe, and that is being honest, however when it comes to things which are making more sense than nonsense, I'll side with the truth I see as valid, in faith.
See there was a point in time where the devil was around, it was Israel (blinding people towards God, telling them that Jesus body was stolen and not risen --- etc...)
In that day in age before being destroyed in 70AD and Yeshua came back to save the bride, and the new heavens and new earth have now today been established.
Thank you for your comments, I do only half-heartedly accept them, as who knows who you are or I am at our core anyway on the internet.
Dan Clarkston
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Some people say we should ignore what the Lord Jesus had to say thru other Apostles... their writings are garbage!
Dan Clarkston
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Revelation. Though many people continue to doubt those events ever happened. I'm thankful it's faith, which pleases God. So I trust him, and I trust what the promises founded in the Bible have to deal with the nation of Israel and it's fall, and reinstatement in the Heavenly Realm.
See, if Jesus, and the Apostles promised for the events to be seen. They must have been.
Otherwise the whole bible is just a joke, Jesus is a liar, and so are his apostles. I have to say this as an extreme position of point.
Because many people have a extremely hard time believing so! Makes no difference to me, what you believe. I just simply share some information for people to consider, because it is true, if Jesus never came back... Might as well just throw that bible away one says they believe in.
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On the internet, this type of talk in forums will get the attention of people who can't believe or take this seriously. That is all fine. I am going to continue to believe what I have for the past 6 years now, because it's one of the most freeing views, out there. Allowing you to have your relationship with Yahavah, and to live freely by the holy spirit he bestows in individuals hearts. There will be people who say I'm not Christian, I don't believe the bible, watch out for that guy he the child of the Devil, either to my face, or behind my back.
I don't care in the end.
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Dan Clarkston
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Preterism is false doctrine, and you have no scriptural evidence that the devil and his demons have been locked up yet...
Look around the world man, evil is still alive and well and very active right now.
@Dan Clarkston - It's a view. I do, and its called History of the Jewish (Joshephus documents events Jesus speaks about concerning the Destruction which was to come forth; though he is not a believer) demolishing, and faithfully believing that in that day, all the events unfolded ending that age.
Slandering someone over a view, is stupid. Mocking or ridiculing, is also to me stupid.
Evil resides in the hearts of man as Jesus has stated.
Slandering someone over a view, is stupid. Mocking or ridiculing, is also to me stupid.
Evil resides in the hearts of man as Jesus has stated.
There are also people which when being aware may have issues mentally. Many cults start up, many false ideas and things spread. All from man ... not the Devil as some would suggest. Might as well let every single murderer free here in America, because of the defense "The Devil made me do it."
Way to take responsibility in my opinion, though mercy, love, even forgiveness is show by Yeshua, to those who do horrible things and those who seek redemption will go and call out to God and Yeshua will make them right with him, and perhaps their old ways slowly die out.
Anyway, love to all my enemies, and every single person I know.
Way to take responsibility in my opinion, though mercy, love, even forgiveness is show by Yeshua, to those who do horrible things and those who seek redemption will go and call out to God and Yeshua will make them right with him, and perhaps their old ways slowly die out.
Anyway, love to all my enemies, and every single person I know.
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