Unethical mRNA Vaccine - Input from a Biochemist.

[Armour of God]

And millions of Americans saw the death caused by the virus. About a million of us died from the infection. And now, we know that the COVID death rate for the unvaccinated was about ten times that of the vaccinated

That's just the same rubbish your repeating from the government and media who had huge conflicts of interests. Most people now know it was all a big scam. We should have seen a huge spike in overall death rates but that didn't increase at all

How online influencers profit from spreading anti-vaccine misinformation

I read the link and it didn't explain how anyone opposing the covid needles were being profited at all. In fact doctors and scientists were being silenced and having their licences revoked for having opposing opinions on covid and the needles. That was extremely unscientific and was one of the things that made me question the whole narrative in the first place. Science is supposed to be questioned. Silencing people what questioned it is not science at all.

On the other hand people like Gates and Faucci have direct financial links to the vaccine industry. The media was being paid by big pharma and once governments spent so much money to buy vaccines they became invested.

The snake oil salesmen when said that they were "experimental." But that doesn't make it so. None of the vaccines available to the public were experimental.

The media was calling the vaccines experimental, so were my doctors.
Vaccines supposed to take years to go through trials, no amount of money can buy the time required to do that. The covid syringes only took a few months. The public were the test subjects and the covid needles proved not to be safe at all with many people having adverse reactions, getting sick and dying from them

The fact that the vaccines were highly effective, with fewer adverse effects than most vaccines, verified the Operation Warp Speed testing process

The covid syringes were not effective at all. They were supposed to stop people from catching and spreading the virus. They failed to do that. Plus the amount of people getting sick and dying from them made them very unsafe.

Should be a personal choice. And it was

It wasn't in Australia. Over here they forced the needles onto us. My doctors advised me not to take it and I lost my job because of that. Our major cities remained locked down until 80% of people had taken the toxic needles. That was wrong. All drugs have possible bad side effects and should always be a choice, one should not be discriminated against for choosing not to take it. It actually goes against international law to do that after the Nazis were forcing drugs onto people back in the 1930s and 40s.

But such a choice should not put others at a greater risk. If you don't want to be vaccinated, others should not be endangered by your choice. That's a matter of choice, too.

Your not putting anyone at risk. If you've taken the injection then you shouldn't have to worry. But the fact is that the syringes didn't stop people from catching catching covid or transmitting it anyway so your no more of a risk than the injected people were to anyone.

Covid was a major scam. Big pharma made trillions of dollars from it and that was their plan. That money came from our governments and was the main reason for the massive world wide inflation that we saw after it.

Covid was just a mild flu like virus. More harm was done from the lockdowns and covid needles than from covid. And no one should of ever been forced, coerced or discriminated against for choosing not to take an injection or any drug

 

[Rockerduck]

The Holy Spirit told me not to take it. That should tell you a lot that God did not like it in His children. 30% of the USA did not take a shot which is how many born again people there are that refused it, as former Pres. Biden said " its a pandemic of the unvaccinated." First they said take the shot to prevent getting it, then, take the shot it will reduce the severity of covid, then you will get it, stay indoors and wear masks until you are over it and continue to wear masks in public for no reason. Here in the south, we ignored the federal gov't. Low and behold they found lack of vitamin D caused most of the deaths. That's sunshine, nobody went outside in the winter up north.

 

[The Barbarian]

That's just the same rubbish your repeating from the government and media who had huge conflicts of interests.

That stuff doesn't work on anyone with the willingness to check the data.

We should have seen a huge spike in overall death rates but that didn't increase at all

Over 1,000,000 Americans died of COVID-19 infection. About one in 320 Americans, last time I checked.

Provisional COVID-19 Mortality Surveillance

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

I read the link and it didn't explain how anyone opposing the covid needles were being profited at all.

For example:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/24/technology/joseph-mercola-coronavirus-misinformation-online.html

The snake oil salesmen when said that they were "experimental." But that doesn't make it so. None of the vaccines available to the public were experimental.

The media was calling the vaccines experimental, so were my doctors.

But as you learned, the claims were false. I showed you the facts.

Vaccines supposed to take years to go through trials, no amount of money can buy the time required to do that. The covid syringes only took a few months. The public were the test subjects and the covid needles proved not to be safe at all with many people having adverse reactions, getting sick and dying from them

The data show otherwise. Unvaccinated people were about ten times more likely to die of COVID than were vaccinated people. No point in denial.

You should have a choice to not be vaccinated. But such a choice should not put others at a greater risk. If you don't want to be vaccinated, others should not be endangered by your choice. That's a matter of choice, too.

Your not putting anyone at risk.

If you refused to be vaccinated, you put everyone around you at risk. That's how herd immunity works. You want choice for yourself, but want to deny it for everyone else.

Covid was just a mild flu like virus.

It killed over a million Americans. C'mon.

 

[The Barbarian]

Here in the south, we ignored the federal gov't. Low

Yep. And there it is.

 

[Armour of God]

That stuff doesn't work on anyone with the willingness to check the data

As I've already said, the data comes from those with a conflict of interests and cannot be trusted

Over 1,000,000 Americans died of COVID-19 infection. About one in 320 Americans, last time I checked

The overall deaths were comparable to previous years meaning there was no spike in deaths at all until the covid injections came out

The snake oil salesmen when said that they were "experimental." But that doesn't make it so. None of the vaccines available to the public were experimental.

Your just repeating yourself.
The media said it was experimental and so did my doctors. It should take years to test a vaccine, no amount of funding changes that.

But as you learned, the claims were false. I showed you the facts

You didn't show me anything. The covid needles were experimental as the media said, as my doctors said

The data show otherwise. Unvaccinated people were about ten times more likely to die of COVID than were vaccinated people. No point in denial.

Data from the people with a conflict of interests cannot be trusted, as I've already said

You should have a choice to not be vaccinated. But such a choice should not put others at a greater risk. If you don't want to be vaccinated, others should not be endangered by your choice. That's a matter of choice, too

As I said already if the needles actually worked then you wouldn't be putting them at risk.

But the injections don't actually stop people from catching and spreading the virus anyway.

So sacking people from work or not allowing them into shops was just a dirty coercive tactic that was inhumane and against international law.

If you refused to be vaccinated, you put everyone around you at risk. That's how herd immunity works. You want choice for yourself, but want to deny it for everyone else.

What herd immunity? The syringes did not provide any immunity. You should know this.
Everyone should have the choice not to take the dirty injections without being discriminated against.

It killed over a million Americans. C'mon

Says who? People with a conflict of interests.
Overall death rates were the same to previous years.

Take your syringes if you want, but allow people to make a choice without any discrimination.

 

[Armour of God]

The Holy Spirit told me not to take it. That should tell you a lot that God did not like it in His children. 30% of the USA did not take a shot which is how many born again people there are that refused it, as former Pres. Biden said " its a pandemic of the unvaccinated." First they said take the shot to prevent getting it, then, take the shot it will reduce the severity of covid, then you will get it, stay indoors and wear masks until you are over it and continue to wear masks in public for no reason. Here in the south, we ignored the federal gov't. Low and behold they found lack of vitamin D caused most of the deaths. That's sunshine, nobody went outside in the winter up north.

Good for you. I didn't take those experimental injections either along with many others and we were all just fine.

Meanwhile it was the people I saw who did take those covid needles that ended up being sick and even dying.

Both my parents got blood clots from those syringes. When my mum asked if it was from the covid syringes they just said that they didn't know for sure.
Yet they were still pushing them claiming to be safe and effective which was an outright lie

 

[Rockerduck]

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Yep. And there it is.

What is blue and light blue? Fact is more died up north. New York was famous for it.

 

[The Barbarian]

What is blue and light blue? Fact is more died up north.

Darker states have higher rates from Covid

New York was famous for it.

Seattle and LA, too - at the beginning. It's where most people were coming in to the U.S. So the highest rates were initially there. But after the vaccines became available, the pattern changed. For reasons we've already discussed.

The graph published by CDS uses data for 2023.
From Lancet, possibly the most-regarded medical journal in the world:

Our results showed that US counties with higher proportions of persons ≥ 12 years of age fully vaccinated against COVID-19 had substantially lower rates of COVID-19 cases and deaths—a finding that showed dose response and persisted even in the period when Delta was predominant.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-193X(22)00008-4/fulltext

 

[The Barbarian]

Both my parents got blood clots from those syringes. When my mum asked if it was from the covid syringes they just said that they didn't know for sure.

Ironically...
A case of COVID-19 appears to increase the risk of forming dangerous blood clots long after recovering from the infection, a cause-and-effect mechanism that could lead to a heart attack or stroke.

Research shows that blood clot risk can remain elevated for nearly a year after getting COVID-19. The risk is highest within the first week after a COVID-19 diagnosis and for those hospitalized with the illness.

COVID-19 and Blood Clots: What To Know

Did you know that COVID-19 increases your chances of a dangerous blood clot? Here’s what you need to know.

health.clevelandclinic.org

In fact, a large analysis of health data from UK Biobank looked at adults who got COVID in 2020 (before vaccination was available). The analysis followed this group for almost 3 years, until October 2022. The researchers compared this group of 10,000 adults who tested positive for the original strain of COVID against more than 200,000 adults who didn’t get COVID in 2020.

They found that, over the course of the study, the risk of heart attack, stroke, and death from any cause was more than twice as likely in people who’d tested positive for COVID than it was for people who hadn’t had COVID. This is relevant because the main cause of heart attack and stroke is blood clots.

https://www.goodrx.com/conditions/covid-19/can-covid-cause-blood-clots

Overview: Although blood clots linked to the COVID vaccine remain extremely rare there appears to be a higher risk in people shortly after the first dose of the AstraZeneca (AZ) vaccine.

Risk rate: according to government guidance from June 2021, around 10 people develop this condition for every million of AZ vaccine doses given. That’s 0.001%. (about 1 case for every 100,000 vaccinated people)

Studying the link between COVID-19 vaccines and rare blood clots

A new, rapid nationwide study aiming to understand the vascular complications around blood clots after coronavirus vaccination is now underway.

www.ukri.org

Avoiding blood clots turns out to be a very good reason to take the vaccine.

 

[The Barbarian]

The media said it was experimental and so did my doctors. It should take years to test a vaccine, no amount of funding changes that.

You're just repeating yourself. The snake oil salesmen peddling fake remedies said that vaccine were "experimental." But that doesn't make it so. None of the vaccines available to the public were experimental. Even the very new ones were repeatedly tested and authorized by the FDA.

 

[The Barbarian]

Results. The United States experienced 1 277 697 excess deaths between March 2020 and July 2023. Almost 90% of these deaths were attributed to COVID-19, and 51.5% occurred after vaccines were available. The highest excess death rates first occurred in the Northeast and then shifted to the South and Mountain states. Between weeks ending June 20, 2020, through March 19, 2022, excess death rates were higher in states with Republican governors and greater Republican representation in state legislatures.

https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2024.307731?journalCode=ajph

A pretty good example of correlation not proving causation. In this case. political conservatism tends to correlate with vaccine denial. But electing a republican governor won't cause you to be infected with COVID.

 

[Armour of God]

You're just repeating yourself. The snake oil salesmen peddling fake remedies said that vaccine were "experimental." But that doesn't make it so. None of the vaccines available to the public were experimental. Even the very new ones were repeatedly tested and authorized by the FDA.

LoL your such a sucker for pseudo-science.
That's all you ever talk about on this forum

 

[The Barbarian]

LoL your such a sucker for pseudo-science.

If you consider medical journals like Lancet and Cleveland Clinic to be "pseudo-science", we've located the problem.

 

[Rockerduck]

If Fauci had anything to do with a study it is quackery.

 

[Armour of God]

If you consider medical journals like Lancet and Cleveland Clinic to be "pseudo-science", we've located the problem.

Covid needles are pseudo-science.
You can take them if you want.
Just leave the rest of us in peace.

 

[Rockerduck]

Covid needles are pseudo-science.
You can take them if you want.
Just leave the rest of us in peace.

I had the flu and I've had the flu before and got over it. I went to the doctor and they told me I had covid. I said I had the flu and I don't have any Covid symtoms. They still said I had covid and told me to wear a mask. I threw the mask away and walked out.

 

[Triumph1300]

You can take them if you want.

All the people I know that got the shots got sick.
And I mean really sick, not just a bit of the flu.
Later they said they are still alive because they got the shots..........

I did not take the shots and did not get sick at all
I never in my life had a flu shot either.
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[The Barbarian]

Covid needles are pseudo-science.

I know you believe that. But the opinions of the great majority of immunologists and physicians are more compelling to me.

You can take them if you want.
Just leave the rest of us in peace.

Resting in peace isn't the inevitable result for those who aren't immunized. But it happens to them much more often than it happens to the immunized.

Your choice, though. While the vaccines aren't extremely good at preventing infection, they are extremely good at preventing death from infection. The virus seems to be following the usual trajectory for a new pathogen. It's going to become endemic. It will increase in infectivity while it decreases in severity.

 

[Armour of God]

All the people I know that got the shots got sick.
And I mean really sick, not just a bit of the flu.
Later they said they are still alive because they got the shots..........

I did not take the shots and did not get sick at all
I never in my life had a flu shot either.
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That's basically the same story with me.
Those of us that never took those injections were just fine.

The ones that did take the dirty syringes got really sick, some even died. My parents both got blood clots from the injections and now have to take blood thinners made by Pfizer.

 

[Armour of God]

I know you believe that. But the opinions of the great majority of immunologists and physicians are more compelling to me.


Resting in peace isn't the inevitable result for those who aren't immunized. But it happens to them much more often than it happens to the immunized.

Your choice, though. While the vaccines aren't extremely good at preventing infection, they are extremely good at preventing death from infection. The virus seems to be following the usual trajectory for a new pathogen. It's going to become endemic. It will increase in infectivity while it decreases in severity.

You can take your advise from the government, media, big pharma, Bill Gates and take the pseudo-science injections

I will take the advise from my doctors and choose not to take those toxic needles.

Just leave us alone
Do not force them on us
Do not use coercion on us
Do not discriminate against us
Just leave us in peace