Universal Salvation and Artificial Intelligence

[bbyrd009]

All people will go to Heaven.

oh...i maybe see the disconnect now,
No one has ever gone up to heaven but He Who came down from it, the son of man
All go to the same place
There is only One Immortal, Who dwells alone in unapproachable light
...and you and your sons will be here with me

 

[St. SteVen]

Harold said:
All people will go to Heaven.

I think he means EVENTUALLY.

oh...i maybe see the disconnect now,
No one has ever gone up to heaven but He Who came down from it, the son of man
All go to the same place
There is only One Immortal, Who dwells alone in unapproachable light
...and you and your sons will be here with me

Seems Jesus is using contrast to make a point.
Where did Moses and Elijah come from when they appeared at the Transfiguration? (and many others)

 

[bbyrd009]

All people will go to Heaven.

I think he means EVENTUALLY

”people” infers “souls,” and i dont think that is gonna fly tbh, much as i would love it myself
now, the spirit goes back to God, Who gave it, so there might be some kind of out there, dunno

also, you say that all go, Jesus said that none have gone; Who am i to believe?

Seems Jesus is using contrast to make a point.
Where did Moses and Elijah come from when they appeared at the Transfiguration? (and many others)

well, good q i guess, although i dont take that so literally
could have been a tornado, and “the heavens” tho, if one insists upon reading history…but a contemporary audience would most likely have understood that an analogy was being made via exaggerating, as they were accustomed to that in Conquest Genre

 

[bbyrd009]

look really all im saying is that i would not be betting my current life that i will go to heaven someday, when the message might be to find the kingdom of heaven herenow, as difficult or impossible as that might seem.

I do like the message more than the eternal hellfire thing, but once again the messenger presenting it as an Absolute Truth is just a big tell. No one knows where they go when they die, and if someone tells you that they do, they are lying to you

 

[St. SteVen]

also, you say that all go, Jesus said that none have gone; Who am i to believe?

Seriously? Was that really necessary? Playing the God card? (to end all discussion) Thanks.
As if that is ALL Jesus ever said about the subject?

Again... Where did Moses and Elijah come from when they appeared at the Transfiguration?
And what about Enoch?

Hebrews 11:5 NIV
By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away.”[a] For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God.

 

[bbyrd009]

Seriously? Was that really necessary? Playing the God card? (to end all discussion) Thanks.
As if that is ALL Jesus ever said about the subject?

ha well i sure didnt mean that, as i dont know
more like "why would Jesus say that then?"

Again... Where did Moses and Elijah come from when they appeared at the Transfiguration?

and again, i suspect a little allegory/exaggeration to reinforce a point that leads to truth, or at least wisdom, although for all i know it was a literal manifestation, and maybe God was just more apparent to the eyes back then, hmm

And what about Enoch?

right? I would again ask why Jesus would apparently flatly refute the end of Enoch...but i have been in the Bible long enough to realize that pretty much every Scriptural tenet has a seemingly opposite counterpart,
No son of man may die for another's sins
Christ died for our sins
God so loved the world
leave the world
provide for your family
dont work for food
on and on, i could fill pages

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

The Bible clearly teaches two destinations, eternal life and death -destruction of both body and soul in tue Lake of Fire.


"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life". John 3:16

He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the
wrath of God abides on him.” John 3:36

Believe in Jesus!
This is the call to the World, to receive the Savior. We come to Him in godly sorrow, aware of our sins, in need for His forgiveness, ask for forgiveness and He forgives. When a gift is offered, you have to take it - receive it and say thank you. THE GOSPEL WAS SENT OUT FOR THIS REASON. IT IS AN INVITATION. If God calls you outwardly and inwardly and you say "NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE ... I WILL GO MY OWN WAY ... BE THE DIRECTOR OF MY OWN DESTINY ... I DON'T NEED GOD ... BUT change your mind about Christ before you die, well you made it - you are saved.
HOWEVER, If you go to your death an unbeliever, you will die in yours sins.

God calls all men to Himself but many reject Him to their death. The world has have till death to make a decision for Christ.
LET ME REITERATE THE WORDS OF GOD: HE WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE.

The dead unbelieving souls have no remembrance of anything good, God, nor any Gospel.

>>Isaiah 38:18
For Sheol doth not confess Thee, Death doth not praise Thee, Those going down to the pit hope not for Thy truth.<<

The Good News is not preached in Hades. There are no preachers or evangelists there, no enrollment to Christianity 101 classes taught by fallen angels. No, no, no, Satan deceived all who go there!
Universalism is one of his lies along with all other false religions. If he can't convince people to follow Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, or anybothe false religion, then He has to get you to believe that everyone gets saved, that it doesn't matter what you believe ... then he has got you.

 

[msugreen]

Yep, you read that title right! Artificial Intelligence has gotten so advanced that you can now have conversations with it. Soo... let's talk to it about Universal Salvation of Christ, that everyone will be saved by faith alone in Jesus Christ!

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Hi, I just finished opening Christmas gifts with my family. There are some people who celebrate Christmas, some who don’t, but the important thing is being there to support your family, regardless of the season. And if Christmas gives you a reason to be happy with your family, then go for it! That’s my personal thoughts.



So, I’ve used Novel AI before, but let’s see if we can artificially generate evangelism / soulwinning / gospel messages spreading the truth that Christ Jesus will save everyone by faith alone!

Prompt: “Everyone will go to Heaven by faith alone in Jesus”

To which it adds

Everyone will go to Heaven by faith alone in Jesus Christ [And then the AI adds a lie by falsely saying good works save when the truth is that it’s only faith alone]

Then the Artificial Intelligence says “However, there are many questions about the nature of salvation. For example:

How can we believe that God is perfect love and yet send people to hell?”

Luke 2:10 [The Gospel is] "good tidings of great joy will be to ALL people."



Let me answer the machines question, God is perfect love because Hell is temporary. Hell is Sheol which is temporary mental suffering.



The robot replies “God gives us free will;”

I say “We have the free will to choose when to be saved, but God’s predestination (His Plan) is to save everyone. God’s will is stronger than our free will. So, everyone will eventually be saved. Everyone eventually will become believers in Jesus Christ through faith alone of their own free will.”



Let’s start another prompt “Jesus Christ, savior of the whole world.”

While the last one was a first prompt, when I generated this next one I had to click the retry button many times before getting a good prompt that made sense.

The machine says this: “Jesus Christ, savior of the whole world. Father, Son and Holy Ghost—who is the Spirit?”

The Holy Spirit is what goes into every believer when they are saved.

Acts 3:21 In Jesus Christ is "the restoration of ALL THINGS, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began."

John 1:13 Believers in Christ are "born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."



Another prompt I put in is “Christ Jesus will save the whole world”

The website puts out this response “Christ Jesus will save the whole world. He is the Savior of all mankind. The Son of God is more powerful than any demon or evil spirit, and he has power over death itself. But these are not the only signs that Christ is coming to earth in order to take away sin and suffering.”



Brilliant! Sounds like something I would say. Maybe this machine could give me a run of my money lol.

John 12:32 "And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself."



Now, if I click the send prompt again I will be able to continue this dialogue. Usually, I have to correct the machine’s answers, but let’s see where this goes, I’m curious…



“There are many other proofs. For example, Christ will come to set up a kingdom on earth where there will be no need for people to work hard or do anything else because food and clothing will always be provided.”



I agree. Christ will create a New Heaven and a New Earth

Isaiah 65:17 “See, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.”

As a New Earth and New Heavens are created, this shows that everyone will be saved, since Christ is making everyone new!



The online site says this “Even though Satan tries everything that can possibly go wrong with this plan, it cannot be stopped – because Christ has already been raised from the dead by his Father, and so he knows what happens next. He will not fail in what he plans to do!”

Exactly true. That’s why Christian Universalism is the Victorious Gospel of Christ! The Lord will achieve absolute victory over the world and save everyone!

1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never fails!



He will not fail in what he plans to do! And when he comes again as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, then every person who has ever lived will bow down and worship him (see 1 Corinthians 15:23–26). All people have sinned against God, and they deserve punishment.

1 Corinthians 15:23-26

But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.



Yes, but each in turn! That’s true. Christ shall be ALL IN ALL. All = All. I find it very interesting how this website is able to cite Bible verses too!



Then everyone will see how wonderful and glorious God's kingdom truly is.

The Lord Jesus said: 'I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'



Wow!~ Ok, that’s really cool. It got the quote from Lord Jesus correct!

John 14:6 “Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Christ Jesus provides life to all people, everyone! Faith alone in Christ saves and all will have faith alone in Jesus

The machine then replies “ (John 14:6) “

Very interesting that the robot was able to identify the correct verse citation.

“No one knows when Christ will return. But it could happen at any time. If you are ready to welcome him into your heart as your Lord and Saviour then tell someone about it today.”



A good message to end off with!



I reply to this and the machine says you must falsely turn away from sins, however, that’s a good work, and good works do not save you, only faith alone! Only once we are already saved can we, through the power of the Holy Spirit, stop ourselves from sinning. But that’s after we’re saved. To be saved, we only need to have faith alone in Jesus Christ, no good works at all, only believing, simply, like a child.



Then the machine falsely said that hell is forever, but the truth is that Hell is temporary, Sheol, temporary mental anguish. Jesus has the keys to Sheol.

1 Samuel 2:6 The Lord kills and he gives life, he sends down to Sheol, he can bring the dead up again.

Psalm NKJV 16:10 You will not leave my soul in Sheol.

Psalm NEB 86:13 For thy true love stands high above me; thou hast rescued my soul from the depths of Sheol.

PSALM 139:8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, you are there. (NIV)



The machine says “If you have already done this then thank God for his mercy to you today. And pray that he may prepare your heart for the day when he comes again. Amen.

***

Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners.”

Amen as well my mechanical friend. It’s very interesting how advanced technology has gotten, where it can artificially generate conversations about Christian Universalism! It’s so advanced that you never know if the person you’re talking to on the other end of the screen is really a human or a machine. Don’t worry, I can assure you that I am indeed a human and not an artificial intelligence, even if you may think that some of my responses sound robotic lol On a different note, I’ve been exploring how the best AI for business can enhance our connections and storytelling. Platforms like NovelAI are great for creating unique narratives and engaging conversations. It’s fascinating to see how AI can bring people together, just like the spirit of the season!

Absolutely! The idea of Universal Salvation through faith in Jesus Christ is such a comforting belief. It's a reminder that, no matter our paths, there's hope for everyone.