Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

[Reggie Belafonte]

I asked you questions.
You didn't respond to any of the questions.

The point is that many new age people nowadays are claiming that animals are humans as well and as such they have rights that are above humans, all sorts of rubbish as to that, oh race horses should be banned and dog racing and all the rest of such rubbish.

The thing is that the human Soul is in the image of God and nothing other does at all, so one should never go down that track because ignorant people get mislead and run with such, Oh my cat has a soul too don't you know and defend this position and sadly nowadays I see Christian churches blessing dogs cats you name it, such is blasphemy ! then I see a cross above where a cat is under it and people going to a dogs funeral just like with a human. so you see where I am coming from ? don't encourage such people, give them a inch and they will take a mile ? do you understand that.

What you put forward is not worth me talking about because it's not the point.

Where does such as ones cat go, who cares ! that is not the point, where does a persons Soul go if it's not worthy to go to Heaven, really who cares. because Jesus says he is not the God of the dead ? so a Christian has nothing to do with the dead as that is not of our interest at all.
Jesus is talking about the Kingdom of God and he says that he is not of this world ? that means he does not care for such a world, he says that one must be born again to enter into the Kingdom of God. so the Holy Spirit is needed in you for you to enter.
Now ones animal does not have the Holy Spirit, as it is not in the image of God.

What the Socialist Communist Marxist Satanist all do is try every trick they can so as to lower all people down to animals, remember all people are equal under such Satanist because they are worldly of the flesh and have not the Holy Spirit in them and that's why they will demand your life is not worthy of anything above any Beast, you are all equal in their eyes and that's why people like the Nazis and Communist can view people just as they would Cattle, they do such as History clearly proves such is a fact and worldly people are under strong delusions for they are oblivious to the Light that Jesus gives people who have truly received him. Just look at how deluded society is now with championing abortion even up to 9 months old healthy baby ! now what true Christian can stand for that depravity ! oh hang on the carnal man is not in touch with their Soul ? so oh yes ! that's right Hitler and Stalin ect ect are in that group of the Carnal for they do not have a connection with God in fact, you can see such in their works, as Jesus said of such people. A true Christian will not tolerate such people and they are not our equals at all and we should never give such an inch because the bastards will then take a mile.

 

[Paul Christensen]

How very Jewish and under the Law that is. Yes or No dribble, devoid of Grace.

Fact is that all of the Saints were sinners, not one claimed not to be a Sinner. but they were not under the power of Sin because they were with God, that means that they had a handle on Sin and were not under the power of Satan, but in the Light of the power of God.

Mary was not under the power of Sin ever and that's why God chose her, the most pure woman on earth, but the Satanist and dups have to try and drag everyone down, because when you look into this, you will find that they claim that everyone is total corrupt, this is Protestant dribble. because the fact is that people are not all totally corrupt, I can understand why they will defend such a claim and it's because they know that they are totally corrupt and they have bastardised Christianity to serve themselves, making out that the total corrupt can enter into Heaven, so in fact they have another Jesus. they claim that the sinner is going to Heaven because one believes in Jesus, fact is that they don't know him and on the day he will say I never knew you, because the prot never knew him in fact, because they had another Jesus that they looked to.

No people are not born totally corrupt at all, for if they were they would be like wild beast and Holy Spirit could come to such a one if you were like an Ape animals do not posses a Soul like a Human does. and when we look into this matter we find that Atheist are lost as to a Soul, so they can no receive. it's as simple as that I can see that easy as and it's because they are to weak minded and happy to be ignorant in fact and they are possessed in fact, they have a devil residing in them and when one uses the words Jesus Christ ? they don't like that at all and they get wound up and you can see the devil take hold of them. I could talk about Islam to them and mention any name and all is fine, but for one 'Jesus Christ'.

Look at Saul for one he changed because he had a Soul, he got the message loud and clear. if he was totally corrupted like a dumb beast he would never of heard God speak to him. so even Saul was not totally corrupt and when he got the message he took hold of it with all his being and he changed to become Paul.

Did you know that RCC doctrine states that unless you pray to and worship Mary as the Queen of Heaven through whom no one can be saved, you cannot receive salvation. This is because only those whom Mary says and intecedes for, will be saved, because Jesus and the Father will do what she requests. If you don't believe me, consult your RCC's own prayer books and you will see the prayer that unsaved sinners are required to pray to the Queen of Heaven in order to be saved.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I wonder if the rank and file RCC member knows that Mary, Queen of Heaven is the foundation for salvation in that she intercedes for sinners so that Jesus can save them, and that there is no salvation outside of Mary's intercession. That actually puts Mary above the Father and the Son, because they do what she wants them to do. I am not guessing about this, but am taking this from the RCC's own official prayer book.

Here's an interesting Scripture from Jeremiah. See if you can spot any similarities to the RCC's prayers to "the Queen of Heaven":

"15 Then all the men who knew that their wives had burned incense to other gods, with all the women who stood by, a great multitude, and all the people who dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying: 16 “As for the word that you have spoken to us in the name of the Lord, we will not listen to you! 17 But we will certainly do whatever has gone out of our own mouth, to burn incense to the queen of heaven and pour out drink offerings to her, as we have done, we and our fathers, our kings and our princes, in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. For then we had plenty of [f]food, were well-off, and saw no trouble. 18 But since we stopped burning incense to the queen of heaven and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have lacked everything and have been consumed by the sword and by famine.”

19 The women also said, “And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did we make cakes for her, to worship her, and pour out drink offerings to her without our husbands’ permission?”

20 Then Jeremiah spoke to all the people—the men, the women, and all the people who had given him that answer—saying: 21 “The incense that you burned in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem, you and your fathers, your kings and your princes, and the people of the land, did not the Lord remember them, and did it not come into His mind? 22 So the Lord could no longer bear it, because of the evil of your doings and because of the abominations which you committed. Therefore your land is a desolation, an astonishment, a curse, and without an inhabitant, as it is this day. 23 Because you have burned incense and because you have sinned against the Lord, and have not obeyed the voice of the Lord or walked in His law, in His statutes or in His testimonies, therefore this calamity has happened to you, as at this day.” (Jeremiah 44:15-24).

So if no one is saved in the RCC without them praying to Mary, Queen of Heaven, and if prayers to and worship of Mary is an abomination to God, then where does that place RCC members? If they are required to pray to Mary to be saved in their religion, and according to what the Holy Spirit said to Jeremiah about prayers to the Queen of Heaven is praying to another god, then how can they be saved?

That is all just Nonsense !
I am sure that some do within the RCC as it would not surprise me at all, just the same within Protestant denominations some are hopeless dribbling of with nonsense all the time.
The Problem with the RCC is that they do not truly work to stamp such nonsense out, so such rubbish festers, just like it has with all the sodomite Priest that ran loose, they are demon possessed and they let it get out of hand, not to mention such is in all denominations and such underlying foundations of all such deranged madness has not been truly exposed, in fact it's all been hidden and supressed, the average person has only seen the surface of the pimple. but they sure as hell do not want to deal with the issue in depth, because they are too shy or too gutless or can not handle such a subject, I see this all the time, they run away or try and avoid the subject or try and lead you off on to another subject and even the average person on the street will flip out because the reality of truth is just to hard to face and never ever will they sit down and even bother to look through the whole subject like a Doctor could do to get to the foundation of problems and address them all.
Look most people will not look at operations being done because reality is to confronting, but hey there are some people who have to push beyond such a issue for the sake of another's and they will deal with the issue because they understand the issue and never just give up because it's too hard or they don't like dealing with the issue.

The foundation of sodomite Priest is powering away they are going from strength to strength in fact and nothing has truly been addressed on the subject, Sodomites are on the rise like never before, in fact they are being idolised in the main.
So is the foundations of every Church, that's in bed with the government handouts to shut up and be under their thumb, they love to peach a Social Doctrine but as to Jesus Christ well that's not their bag.

I don't mind that you have put such an issue forward Paul at all, but I have never seen such being the RCC doctrine.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Did you know that RCC doctrine states that unless you pray to and worship Mary as the Queen of Heaven through whom no one can be saved, you cannot receive salvation. This is because only those whom Mary says and intecedes for, will be saved, because Jesus and the Father will do what she requests. If you don't believe me, consult your RCC's own prayer books and you will see the prayer that unsaved sinners are required to pray to the Queen of Heaven in order to be saved.

I am not a RC.

 

[Paul Christensen]

I am not a RC.

You can breathe a sigh of relief then!

 

[Paul Christensen]

It still does not cut it, you are barking up the wrong tree.
Ones Soul is an image of God.

I have to respond to this one. I can't help it!
If he is barking up a tree, then he must be a product of evolution and that he evolved from a dog and still has some dog genes in him, instead of what Darwin believed that we all evolved from apes. If so, you might have discovered the missing link!! If you had told him that he was monkeying around with way out ideas, then you would be more accurately siding with Darwin!

My apologies, it is just that your post hit my funny bone!

 

[Taken]

Did you know that RCC doctrine states that unless you pray to and worship Mary as the Queen of Heaven through whom no one can be saved, you cannot receive salvation. This is because only those whom Mary says and intecedes for, will be saved, because Jesus and the Father will do what she requests. If you don't believe me, consult your RCC's own prayer books and you will see the prayer that unsaved sinners are required to pray to the Queen of Heaven in order to be saved.

Don't think he said he was catholic, but is inclined to lean toward some of their teaching, not sure the specifics.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

The point is that many new age people nowadays are claiming ...

What new age people believe or do, was not the topic, Nor is my responsibility.

We were discussing a SOUL.

I stated my beliefs, and gave Scriptures for the basis of my beliefs.

Again:
I believe Natural Earthly Men ARE: and HAVE:
* a natural body,
* a soul from God,
* a natural spirit.

I believe Natural Earthly Animals ARE & have
* a natural body
I believe Natural Earthly Animals HAVE:
* a soul from God

If you pay attention, you should Realize there IS a Difference, between the CREATED Earthly man and CREATED Animal.

Speaking WHAT "IS", does NOT make me responsible for others (new-agers) understanding.

You diverted the POINT to new-agers Understanding and What they DO, based on their Understanding, then went off on a tangent of your disagreement with what they Do.

Again, "their" understandings and doings, was not the topic. I am well aware of what some believe and do, and said nothing about them.

The thing is that the human Soul is in the image of God

Here I disagree.
A MAN...His;
* Corrupt natural body,
* Corrupted soul,
* Corrupt Natural spirit
IS NOT, the Image OR Likeness OF God!

A MAN...His;
* Quickened (glorified immortal) body,
* Restored (saved) soul,
* Quickened (born Again) spirit,
IS, the Image and Likeness OF God!

Again, I am not responsible for what a new-Ager believes or does.

so one should never go down that track because ignorant people get mislead and run with such,

Nonsense.
I DID NOT equal humans and animals!
Specifically I Said;
* A human WAS created in Gods Image and Likeness.
( The very Basics of Scripture IS MAN, fell Away "BY SIN", from Gods IMAGE and Likeness!
And some men have heard, learned, and Freely Chosen to be Reconciled and AGAIN Become IN Gods Image and Likeness.)

* Animals Were Never In Gods Image or Likeness.
* Thus Animals, could NOT Fall Away, "BY SIN". "FROM" Gods Image or Likeness!
* Animals are Not "forgiven SIN"...
* Because THEY DO NOT Sin!
* SIN against God;
...WAS...by not following the LAW.
* SIN against God;
...IS...by NOT Believing IN God & Jesus the Christ Messiah.
* Animals WERE NEVER taught or required to Follow a Law OR Believe IN God or Jesus the Christ Messiah!
* Animals Were Never SUBJECT to:
** their body sinning
** their soul sinning
** or that they have a "spirit" of TRUTH In their heart.

The Topic was About SOULS.

I believe Scripture Teaches;
* All (KINDS) of Created Body's of Flesh & Blood that "Breath" Air... DO "HAVE" A SOUL.
* I believe all of those (KINDS) of Body's are Given a SOUL, VIA, Gods Breath Breathing INTO the (KINDS) of Body's. (Which bring that KIND of Body into its own individual Natural Life (which IS it's BLOOD)

KINDS of Body's:
Men: Earthly men; Heavenly man;; spirits that can "appear" as an Earthly man.

Animals: Clean KIND, Unclean KIND ( and Facts revealed, for which KIND an Animal IS: (cloven hoves, chews cud, etc.)

* Any Man who has been naturally born, and received Gods Breath of Life (Soul), has Bodily lived and shall Bodily die.
* Any Animal who has been naturally born, and received Gods Breath of Life (Soul), has Bodily lived and shall Bodily die.

All souls BELONG To God.
All Life IN a Soul BELONGS to God.
Souls with Gods LIFE...DO NOT REMAIN in a dead rotting corpse of a Flesh Body (Man or Animal).

Scripture is written notice TO MAN, about man, For Man...NOT for Angel's OR Animals!

Where God sends the Physically DEAD BODY of a MAN, is back to the dust of the Earth.
Where Gods sends the Physically DEAD BODY of an ANIMAL, is back to dust of the Earth.

Where God sends a Living SOUL of a SAVED physically DEAD man...IS Heaven. (To wait for Judgement)

Where God sends a Living SOUL of an UNSAVED man is Hell. (To wait for Judgement).

I do not Know Where the Living SOUL of a Physically DEAD Animal Goes.
I have Never found a Bible Written to Animals to tell them!
Nor is there a NEED for me TO KNOW, Where An Animals Living Soul "goes" have ANY Affect me.

I Trust God has that Figured Out.

Do I believe PEOPLE, who ARE Saved "will be" UNITED, with their "PETS" ? No

Inasmuch, I do NOT believe human husbands and wives will be UNITED with there earthly "spouses".

Saved Humans Will be UNITED with God through Christ.

Animals were Never UNITED with God, nor will become United with God through Christ.

I do believe there Will Be (Forever) Living Animals ON the New (Restored) Earth.
But they will NOT be Subject to man's "dominance", as they are now.

So the whole Topic was about..."IF" an Animal Does or Does Not Have a SOUL...
Not about...what happens to an Animals Soul after its body dies...or IF an Animals soul requires Salvation. [/QUOTE]

You said: you believe "anyone who believes an Animal HAS A soul IS of the Devil".

Then you gave your reasoning was Because of ALL the things "New-agers" Do.

Well I DO believe Animals HAVE a soul, as Scripture teaches: Animals have the Breath of Life of God...
And no, I am not of the Devil, for that Belief.

I do NOT have the Same beliefs as "New-agers" (you mentioned about salvation and pet animals, etc.)...

Our disagreement is about Animals. Do they or do that Not HAVE a soul.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Taken I am coming from the Christian point of view and I care not for your new age dribble, the fact is that God made everything regardless.
I am talking about the Soul of Man here and I care not in regards to anything other because that is of the world, it's a vast difference !

You are trying to muddy the waters Taken and bring animals into the subject and people get the wrong idea so such is a work of Satan. the subject of animals has noting to do with Salvation or Christianity in any way at all.

You are trying to twist the point Taken, I am not on about you I am on about people being mislead by nonsense.
A Christian does not bring Animals into Salvation, they are clear different subject.

When people read that animals have a Soul they get it in their head that it's the same as a Human and it's very hard to snap them out of it and wake up to reality, warning bells go off directly that such are undermining Christianity.

I have come across this before with people in the Church and such is so destructive and what then becomes is a people who are lead by a spiritual utopia that is totally devoid of the Holy Spirit and boy is that hard to rectify like Pantheism and the next thing a tree has a soul and so on and on.

 

[Taken]

...I care not for your new age dribble,

All the new age dribble, are things you brought up.

Weird!

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Don't think he said he was catholic, but is inclined to lean toward some of their teaching, not sure the specifics.

Glory to God,
Taken

I was brought up as a Protestant and despised the RCC and I got that angry about them that I looked into what they peddled, so as to go on the attack, but I found out that we Prots were barking up the wrong tree, on many points and I found my Pastor full on did not want to go into any depth on such a subject and he would just rattle on about things that I knew only to well, he was not telling me anything that I did not know and totally refused to go into the subject with me because he was only about indoctrinating his flock, now that was back in the 1970's and I liked him we did Bible study and I would point something out and he was demanding that there is noting more to such a topic that I could see in the Bible, he would not go their at all and shut me down.

When my Grandma died I got her RC Bible with the doctrines in it, boy was that an education and I seen the Prots had a lot to answer for peddling total nonsense beyond the bounds of reality not to mention clearly of Satan, I was shocked but then when I talked to the RC people I seen that the Prots were correct in their assumptions of them, it was true the RC people were for the most total morons ! boy what a load of rubbish they believed, it was shocking how ignorant they truly were. but then again so is the average Protestant when you talk to one, not to mention most Christians regardless sure as hell do not want to talk about the Bible let alone Jesus Christ in depth, they will not gladly sit down with you and go through it all because they will not want to be seen to be ignorant on such a subject, not to mention the Priest as well, because sadly they for the most are only indoctrinated and are not born again of the Holy Spirit.

I have religious come to my door but they do not want to have time to talk to another who knows the Bible because they are not willing to listen to anything I have to say, but the ones who were open to debating went and got their superior to come and talk with me and that end up with them having a spack attack because I was talking about Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit and nothing to do with the religious baggage, sadly they are all about the religious baggage first and foremost. I am coming in at the Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit point of view and boy does that make them jump out of their skin, for fear that their underlings catch on ! because that's the end of his religion and he will be exposed for what he truly is a religious creep.
All religions are rubbish ! what one needs is the Holy Spirit and to love the Lord Jesus with your all and only him you shall serve, now if they did that then all Christians will be united under Christ Jesus only.

 

[Taken]

I was brought up as a Protestant and despised the RCC and I got that angry about them that I looked into what they peddled, so as to go on the attack, but I found out that we Prots were barking up the wrong tree, on many points and I found my Pastor full on did not want to go into any depth on such a subject and he would just rattle on about things that I knew only to well, he was not telling me anything that I did not know and totally refused to go into the subject with me because he was only about indoctrinating his flock, now that was back in the 1970's and I liked him we did Bible study and I would point something out and he was demanding that there is noting more to such a topic that I could see in the Bible, he would not go their at all and shut me down.

When my Grandma died I got her RC Bible with the doctrines in it, boy was that an education and I seen the Prots had a lot to answer for peddling total nonsense beyond the bounds of reality not to mention clearly of Satan, I was shocked but then when I talked to the RC people I seen that the Prots were correct in their assumptions of them, it was true the RC people were for the most total morons ! boy what a load of rubbish they believed, it was shocking how ignorant they truly were. but then again so is the average Protestant when you talk to one, not to mention most Christians regardless sure as hell do not want to talk about the Bible let alone Jesus Christ in depth, they will not gladly sit down with you and go through it all because they will not want to be seen to be ignorant on such a subject, not to mention the Priest as well, because sadly they for the most are only indoctrinated and are not born again of the Holy Spirit.

I have religious come to my door but they do not want to have time to talk to another who knows the Bible because they are not willing to listen to anything I have to say, but the ones who were open to debating went and got their superior to come and talk with me and that end up with them having a spack attack because I was talking about Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit and nothing to do with the religious baggage, sadly they are all about the religious baggage first and foremost. I am coming in at the Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit point of view and boy does that make them jump out of their skin, for fear that their underlings catch on ! because that's the end of his religion and he will be exposed for what he truly is a religious creep.
All religions are rubbish ! what one needs is the Holy Spirit and to love the Lord Jesus with your all and only him you shall serve, now if they did that then all Christians will be united under Christ Jesus only.

I fully understand your point.

There is a huge difference between;
The KNOWLEDGE in Scripture...
AND
UNDERSTANDING
The knowledge.

It doesn't matter the Denomination:
(Baptist, Pentecostal, LDS, Catholic, etc.)...
In general an Individual's EXPECTATION...
IS:
To Attend A CHURCH:
Be TOLD...
***what Topic the Cleric has Selected;
Be TOLD...
***what the Selected Topic MEANS .

And the Individual; leaves at the end of the Service FEELING Completely Confidant and Satisfied that he has RECEIVED:
KNOWLEDGE...AND... UNDERSTANDING

So Confidant : (in some cases), thinking themselves QUALIFIED to TEACH others, by Telling and Arguing with Others...
"THEIR" Knowledge AND UNDERSTANDING is Gospel TRUTH...(and IF the "Other" does not AGREE with "Them", The "Other" "IS WRONG"!

And the FACT is
"Scripture Teaches..."
1 HEAR the Scriptures...
( it doesn't matter HOW...
Hear a Cleric, a Parent, a Teacher, READING...
AND "VERIFY"....against The WRITTEN Scripture"...THAT KNOWLEDGE IS TRUE.).

2 "The Lord WILL give the (believing) INDIVIDUAL ... The UNDERSTANDING of the Knowledge.

Bottom Line:
1) KNOWLEDGE CAN be taught BY men.
2) KNOWLEDGE Taught by men, "Should Be Verified" (with Scripture), BY the student/ listener.
3) UNDERSTANDING of the Knowledge, IS a GIFT "FROM" the Lord...NOT men.

And THAT ^, is "NOT", HOW the majority of Churches Operate.

And "THAT", is "NOT" HOW, the majority of individuals WANT their "Church" TO operate...

The majority of Individuals, ARE lazy, ARE impatient, ARE conditioned they ARE "entitled" with QUICK and EASY without EFFORT, To be GIVEN..."KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING".... because they showed up some 50 some times out of a Year...and pray every day For:
Good health, a new house, behaving children, a new car, big screen TV, money, money, money, blah, blah, blah.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I fully understand your point.

There is a huge difference between;
The KNOWLEDGE in Scripture...
AND
UNDERSTANDING
The knowledge.

It doesn't matter the Denomination:
(Baptist, Pentecostal, LDS, Catholic, etc.)...
In general an Individual's EXPECTATION...
IS:
To Attend A CHURCH:
Be TOLD...
***what Topic the Cleric has Selected;
Be TOLD...
***what the Selected Topic MEANS .

And the Individual; leaves at the end of the Service FEELING Completely Confidant and Satisfied that he has RECEIVED:
KNOWLEDGE...AND... UNDERSTANDING

So Confidant : (in some cases), thinking themselves QUALIFIED to TEACH others, by Telling and Arguing with Others...
"THEIR" Knowledge AND UNDERSTANDING is Gospel TRUTH...(and IF the "Other" does not AGREE with "Them", The "Other" "IS WRONG"!

And the FACT is
"Scripture Teaches..."
1 HEAR the Scriptures...
( it doesn't matter HOW...
Hear a Cleric, a Parent, a Teacher, READING...
AND "VERIFY"....against The WRITTEN Scripture"...THAT KNOWLEDGE IS TRUE.).

2 "The Lord WILL give the (believing) INDIVIDUAL ... The UNDERSTANDING of the Knowledge.

Bottom Line:
1) KNOWLEDGE CAN be taught BY men.
2) KNOWLEDGE Taught by men, "Should Be Verified" (with Scripture), BY the student/ listener.
3) UNDERSTANDING of the Knowledge, IS a GIFT "FROM" the Lord...NOT men.

And THAT ^, is "NOT", HOW the majority of Churches Operate.

And "THAT", is "NOT" HOW, the majority of individuals WANT their "Church" TO operate...

The majority of Individuals, ARE lazy, ARE impatient, ARE conditioned they ARE "entitled" with QUICK and EASY without EFFORT, To be GIVEN..."KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING".... because they showed up some 50 some times out of a Year...and pray every day For:
Good health, a new house, behaving children, a new car, big screen TV, money, money, money, blah, blah, blah.

Glory to God,
Taken

How did you know I have a new car and big screen TV and new House.

 

[Taken]

How did you know I have a new car and big screen TV and new House.

I have a '65 trk, 7" tv I haven used in about 5 years, and just built a cabin out of 20 year old logs...does that mean we're not brothers?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Lol, nothing shows that but your twisting of scripture. The logical reading is that these were his literal siblings.

DEAD wrong.

I just showed you that these are the children of the other Mary standoing near the cross who is the wife of Clopas/Alphaeus.
Living in denial, much?

 

[BreadOfLife]

I think after 53 years closely studying God's Word and completing a three year Masters in Divinity I know a whole lot more of the Word than you think I do!

And that's the REAL tragedy here - isn't it . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

You are delusional. But I understand. You were trained to embrace the delusion.

No - it's just that YOU can't seem to produce any evidence that Mary had other children.
Pointing to the "Adelphoi" of Jesus simply shows us that He had relatives.

Try again . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Heresy: is what men have defined as when another does not agree with them.

Scripture teaches to agree with God, not men.

No - heresy is when people like YOU try to redefine the nature of God to fit YOUR limited understanding.
You can't "change" God - no matter HOW hard you try . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

When you were born...could you take a wild guess that perhaps you were called a BABY?
Why?

And do your relatives still call you a BABY?
Why not?

Nope, but I was ALWAYS a human - and so is Jesus.
Bu, He also happens to be GOD.

 

[BreadOfLife]

So you believe God... without mother or father has a mother?

And unless you don't believe that Jesus is God - the problem is YOURS to figure out . . .