Warning about vaccines from doctors and scientists

[Ronald Nolette]

You should be led to the gas chamber if you tried. That is what governments are for, to protect us.

But I believe it, doesn't that make it okay?

So Paul was wrong to protest to Caesar? Daniel was wrong to publicly pray despite the government decree? The apostles were wrong to 'flee justice' when Jesus was taken? The early church was wrong to meet secretly despite government orders? The apostles were wrong to be broken out of jail where they were lawfully placed? The apostles were wrong to preach and do so publicly and happily and defiantly, despite severe government rules against doing so? etc

He did not protest, he appealed his case to Cesar! there is a big difference.

And I never said we should obey government in all circumstances. Gods law supersedes mans law all the time. Show me in Scripture where it says it is wrong to flee for your life.

An angel broke Peter out- so you need to take that up with God. God is able to do as He pleases.

I never said it was wrong to obey God. But when mans law disagrees with the commands of God, we must be ready to pay the price to obey God.

Or maybe one did not feel good doing a min speed of 100 on an autobahn and got a ticket. Once they entered the highway, maybe they felt safe only going 85 till they got to the next exit. They got caught and fined before that. Maybe another guy in California saw the road was destroyed by an earthquake and stopped despite a no stopping sign. People are to obey as much as lies in them. Not in a nazi style lockstep against reason and all that is good.

Well show me the no stopping sign, but now you are just making up extreme foolish examples. So if you feel that a law is not reasonable or good you feel free to disobey it then?

So show where giving a shot to protect a highly contagious virus is unreasonable and bad. Show me the principles of Scripture it violates?

People are warned not to get a mandatory procedure called the mark of the beast. People are to remember we are created by God and our temple is holy. We are also told cursed is he that trusts man.
Jeremiah 17:5

Another red herring. The shot is a medicine. The mark of the beast is a mark to show loyalty and allegiance to Satan. I guess you are against mandatory taking social security number then as well?

Thus saith the Lord ; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord

So you take no medicines nor eat any prepared food? You have to trust man for aspirin and everyother medicine. You have to trust man when you buy bread in a store also. YOu can keep making foolish examples or get real.

Says who that it is rightly? Blessed are you when men shall persecute you and say all manner of evil against you for my sake. What if a government says your young child is getting a gender change whether you like it or not? Abortion? Does that make it right? No. That makes them wicked. Why did Moses' mom not deliver him to be killed? Was she wrong in hiding Moses?

So please explain to all here how refusing to take a medical shot is suffering persecution for Jesus sake.

 

[Scott Downey]

A YEAR for every day they had examined the land . Forty days . They had not faith in GOD
and thus that generation was to walk the dessert till all died .
Those who were not old enough to have their senses exercised to discern between good and evil
It was they who were allowed into the holy land .
On that note , Folks better beleive IN JESUS , cause if not , It wont be the promised paradise
at their end but rather a lake of fire awaits . But let us who are of the LORD do all to continually
point folks to Christ and rebuke this wicked all inclusive many path lie that so many now dwell in and are in love with .
ITS JESUS CHRIST who is our hope and allah wont save a muslim , budda will not save a buddits
nor any other path , religion or mindset is gonna save them . All the so called good works they try and muster up
through a false love , WONT save them . BELIEVE YE IN HE WHOM GOD DID SEND . NOW THAT WILL SAVE ONE .
Take that to the celestial bank and cash in on that promise . for all else is but wind and vanity
and if folks sow to the wind , they gonna reap the very whirlwind of destruction .
SO what i say to one i say to all , BETTER BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST , and better make sure HE IS the biblilcal one
you know and follow , or else be prepared to hear from THE BIBLICAL JESUS i never knew ya .

They did not believe God, and He was wroth with them and they kept sinning and he destroyed them all, that generation of complainers and malcontents who wished to go back to Egypt who said God had brought them into the desert to kill them and their children.
And with them was the mixed multitude, who stirred up Israel against God.

Numbers 11, if keep reading you will see they came to a bad ending.

1 Now when the people complained, it displeased the Lord; for the Lord heard it, and His anger was aroused. So the fire of the Lord burned among them, and consumed some in the outskirts of the camp. 2 Then the people cried out to Moses, and when Moses prayed to the Lord, the fire was [a]quenched. 3 So he called the name of the place [b]Taberah, because the fire of the Lord had burned among them.

4 Now the mixed multitude who were among them [c]yielded to intense craving; so the children of Israel also wept again and said: “Who will give us meat to eat? 5 We remember the fish which we ate freely in Egypt, the cucumbers, the melons, the leeks, the onions, and the garlic; 6 but now our whole being is dried up; there is nothing at all except this manna before our eyes!”
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Jude and the ungodly men who like the mixed multitude came with Israel into the wilderness and sinned, turning the grace of God into excuses to sin and keep on being disobedient to God, denying the Lord. they seek to turn God's people away from Him. this is what the ungodly profane people do. They bring the wrath of God onto the world as they are children of wrath, sons of disobedience.
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3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. 4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord [b]God and our Lord Jesus Christ.

5 But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.

1. Ephesians 2:2
   in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
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2. Ephesians 5:6
   Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.
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3. Colossians 3:6
   Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience,
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[dad]

But I believe it, doesn't that make it okay?

He did not protest, he appealed his case to Cesar! there is a big difference.


And I never said we should obey government in all circumstances. Gods law supersedes mans law all the time. Show me in Scripture where it says it is wrong to flee for your life.

What did you think people refusing vaccines were doing?

An angel broke Peter out- so you need to take that up with God. God is able to do as He pleases.

But Peter walked out unlawfully. Is that a problem for you?

I never said it was wrong to obey God. But when mans law disagrees with the commands of God, we must be ready to pay the price to obey God.

As nations must be ready to pay the price for their rebellion.

Well show me the no stopping sign, but now you are just making up extreme foolish examples. So if you feel that a law is not reasonable or good you feel free to disobey it then?

Invoking traffic signs is what is foolish when weighty issues were being discussed.

So show where giving a shot to protect a highly contagious virus is unreasonable and bad.

The problem is they were covering up and lying. The deaths and side effects seem to evidence in the minds of some experts, that it was a fraud.

Another red herring. The shot is a medicine. The mark of the beast is a mark to show loyalty and allegiance to Satan. I guess you are against mandatory taking social security number then as well?

How would you know what the mark is? It could be administered by the medical system. They might say it does some medical good as well, who knows? The shot is not medicine as far as many medical experts claim. The issue is belief and trust. If some people do not trust big brother, then it is their bodies.

So you take no medicines nor eat any prepared food? You have to trust man for aspirin and everyother medicine. You have to trust man when you buy bread in a store also. YOu can keep making foolish examples or get real.

You seem to be advocating blind trust and excusing that by the fact that some level of trust is involved in many things. By that reasoning there is no limit. Just a bunch of state zombies doing as they are told blindly. Is that what you thought mankind and creation was all about?

So please explain to all here how refusing to take a medical shot is suffering persecution for Jesus sake.

When they close your place of gathering or worship and even forbid singing to the Lord, what would you call that, a tomato? When they fire you from gainful employment because you refuse their propaganda and known lies, what would you call that?

"compared to the vaccinated who have not received any boosters, boosted people are testing positive, being hospitalized, and dying at higher levels in many states, according to the review, which went over data in the first two quarters of 2022"

Boosted worse off than vaccinated in many states, data show

(THE EPOCH TIMES) – People in the United States who have received COVID-19 boosters in many states are more likely than those who have gotten just a primary series to get infected, receive hospital care, and die, according to an Epoch Times investigation. Cases, hospitalizations, and deaths...

www.wnd.com

So when a state's 'top doctor' or political leader in cahoots with them say you should get boosters to be safe, we can add that to the pile of manure they shovel out.

 

[Peterlag]

So if I believe I have a right to kill you, I should not be led by the nose?

We are commanded by god to obey the governing authorities. We have no right to protest, rebel or cause an uprising. We may choose to disobey based on conscience, but you must be willing to pay the price if there is a penalty for your disobedience.

Crazy example: You believe god has granted you to do 75 in a 55 mile/hour zone. When the police pull you over- you will get a $250 ticket no matter what you believe.

Show me the biblical principle that says you should not get a shot if the state, town or employer you deal with mandate it.

If an employer calls for all to get a shot- and you refuse- you can and probably will be rightly fired.

Karl Marx could not have written this any better. Obey the government? And that's God's will? Boy Hitler would have loved you.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

What did you think people refusing vaccines were doing?

Then show where taking the shot violates the Word of God. I will answer everything else after you answer this.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Karl Marx could not have written this any better. Obey the government? And that's God's will? Boy Hitler would have loved you.

Maybe Karl Marx wrote this then oh rebellious one:

Romans 13

King James Version

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13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

And because you only read what you wish to throw your venom out- you forgot, I clearly and often wrote that if mans laws violate Gods Law we are to obey Gods Law. but that doesn't fit your hate agenda so you ignore that.

The Bible is clear, if governing authorities pass a law that does not violate Scripture- we as followers of Jesus are duty bound to obey!

Unless yo uhave reinterpreted this passage to your own harm.

 

[Scott Downey]

Ultimate Proof: Covid-19 Was Planned to Usher in the New World Order

Ultimate Proof: Covid-19 Was Planned to Usher in the New World Order

humansbefree.com

All planned for years

 

[Peterlag]

Maybe Karl Marx wrote this then oh rebellious one:

Romans 13​

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King James Version​

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13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

And because you only read what you wish to throw your venom out- you forgot, I clearly and often wrote that if mans laws violate Gods Law we are to obey Gods Law. but that doesn't fit your hate agenda so you ignore that.

The Bible is clear, if governing authorities pass a law that does not violate Scripture- we as followers of Jesus are duty bound to obey!

Unless yo uhave reinterpreted this passage to your own harm.

The higher power are men of God and God's Word. Not the police and governments. It's not my fault you read bad translations.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Ultimate Proof: Covid-19 Was Planned to Usher in the New World Order

Ultimate Proof: Covid-19 Was Planned to Usher in the New World Order

humansbefree.com

All planned for years

Even if all this is true, which I doubt because it has stayed buried for nearly three years after covid-19 broke out, so what?

The issue is how does the world deal with a pandemic and how do they com eup with solutions to save lives? How covid came to be is a totally different question than how do we stop it.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The higher power are men of God and God's Word. Not the police and governments. It's not my fault you read bad translations.

WOW! Time to say goodbye- your reinterpretations of Scripture is just too much.

Paul wrote to listen to pastors and teachers in plain clear language elsewhere. He has to speak in conde to the Romans? I thought you smarter than that.

I guess you read the NWT. Have the last word. Bye-bye

 

[amigo de christo]

Then show where taking the shot violates the Word of God. I will answer everything else after you answer this.

Even pope francis admitted the technology came off the back of an aborted baby .
THAT SHOWED ME TOUCH NOT the UNCLEAN THING .
THOUGH this false pope did as many others do , HE swept it over and said OH well that was years ago , ITS OKAY to take it now .
I dont take dung that was made off the backs of the blood of the unborn .

 

[Peterlag]

WOW! Time to say goodbye- your reinterpretations of Scripture is just too much.

Paul wrote to listen to pastors and teachers in plain clear language elsewhere. He has to speak in conde to the Romans? I thought you smarter than that.

I guess you read the NWT. Have the last word. Bye-bye

Are you a socialist? You write a deep love and respect for the government which is why I ask.

 

[Peterlag]

Even if all this is true, which I doubt because it has stayed buried for nearly three years after covid-19 broke out, so what?

The issue is how does the world deal with a pandemic and how do they com eup with solutions to save lives? How covid came to be is a totally different question than how do we stop it.

It was not buried for nearly three years. Not even one year. This may be the first time you're hearing about it, but not for many of us.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Even pope francis admitted the technology came off the back of an aborted baby .
THAT SHOWED ME TOUCH NOT the UNCLEAN THING .
THOUGH this false pope did as many others do , HE swept it over and said OH well that was years ago , ITS OKAY to take it now .
I dont take dung that was made off the backs of the blood of the unborn .

no the technology came from the back of an aborted fetus over 30 years ago. Since then they have created new lines off that original and all the lines now are fully synthetic.

There are many things that were developed using the original stem cell lines. You better check what you are using for you may be using things created of those lines which are now hundreds of generations removed.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

It was not buried for nearly three years. Not even one year. This may be the first time you're hearing about it, but not for many of us.

First time it was posted here.

I generally do not read conspiracy sites for the simple reason is that most do not verify.

Are you a socialist? You write a deep love and respect for the government which is why I ask.

If you had paid attention to my writings you would know what a fool you just made of yourself. You would know that I am far from a socialist, and while I respect the laws of the land I live in that do not violate SCripture, as we are commanded to do despite your reinterpretation or Romans 13, No I realize human government is growing darker and darker as the days go on.

Just like I di dnot have respect for the preachers who supported overthrowing the British government in the revolutionary war- they sinned.

but you would know that if you did not make false assumptions of me and actually read my posts.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Even pope francis admitted the technology came off the back of an aborted baby .
THAT SHOWED ME TOUCH NOT the UNCLEAN THING .
THOUGH this false pope did as many others do , HE swept it over and said OH well that was years ago , ITS OKAY to take it now .
I dont take dung that was made off the backs of the blood of the unborn .

If they were intentionally killing babies to make medicines I would agree with you.

but this is the world, if it was a Christian org, it would be different. Once again you better check lots of stuff you use or take, you may be doing the same thing they do.

Science found a use for the aborted babies. They could create stem cell lines that would help others to live. If this was part of a plot to kill babies I agree, otherwise you are crfeating a tempest in a teapot.

 

[Peterlag]

First time it was posted here.

I generally do not read conspiracy sites for the simple reason is that most do not verify.


If you had paid attention to my writings you would know what a fool you just made of yourself. You would know that I am far from a socialist, and while I respect the laws of the land I live in that do not violate SCripture, as we are commanded to do despite your reinterpretation or Romans 13, No I realize human government is growing darker and darker as the days go on.

Just like I di dnot have respect for the preachers who supported overthrowing the British government in the revolutionary war- they sinned.

but you would know that if you did not make false assumptions of me and actually read my posts.

I probably was reading your bad Bible thinking translations before you were born. And yet you seem to talk about me like if I just started this yesterday. Your communist Bible translations that say no government but what God put there. And yet you don't see that Karl Marx wrote that.

 

[amigo de christo]

no the technology came from the back of an aborted fetus over 30 years ago. Since then they have created new lines off that original and all the lines now are fully synthetic.

There are many things that were developed using the original stem cell lines. You better check what you are using for you may be using things created of those lines which are now hundreds of generations removed.

new lines OFF THE ORIGINAL . i shall not touch the unclean thing .

 

[amigo de christo]

If they were intentionally killing babies to make medicines I would agree with you.

but this is the world, if it was a Christian org, it would be different. Once again you better check lots of stuff you use or take, you may be doing the same thing they do.

Science found a use for the aborted babies. They could create stem cell lines that would help others to live. If this was part of a plot to kill babies I agree, otherwise you are crfeating a tempest in a teapot.

And if i find out it was done off this , I shall not touch the unclean things .

 

[dad]

Then show where taking the shot violates the Word of God. I will answer everything else after you answer this.

According to our faith be it done unto us. If believers want none of the abortion pushers pills or experimental frankenshots, that is fine. The hospitals and world is full of folks that had vaccines out the wazoo and who still got sick. Big joke.