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Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? (Romans 6:16).
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. (James 1:5)
From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not: 0ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. (James 4:1-3)
We are repeatedly told to TRUST NO MAN:
Scripture tells us many times to trust no man. Indeed, we should not trust any man, including ourselves. The Bible says, "Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom" (Micah 7:5). It also says "Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders" (Jeremiah 9:4), "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered" (Proverbs 28:26), "But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead" (2 Corinthians 1:9), "Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? if any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's" (2 Corinthians 10:7), "Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD" (Jeremiah 17:5), and finally, "Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit." (Jeremiah 7:8)
Let's put all this "dictionary" confusion to rest.
An examination of the 1000 most difficult words in the KJV reveals that God defines all of them, in the context, in their first usage, using the very words of the Webster's or Oxford English Dictionary. The brief overview of the Holy Bible's built-in dictionary in post #185 is offered to give enough examples of how God's built-in dictionary works, thereby allowing the reader a head-start in discovering this dictionary for himself.
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Who's doing the "advising"? IOW, who do you look to, for the authority to do the things that you do? always remembering that there is a form of obedience that leads to death:
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? (Romans 6:16).
This directly contradicts the Holy Bible:
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. (James 1:5)
From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not: 0ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. (James 4:1-3)
We are repeatedly told to TRUST NO MAN:
Scripture tells us many times to trust no man. Indeed, we should not trust any man, including ourselves. The Bible says, "Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom" (Micah 7:5). It also says "Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders" (Jeremiah 9:4), "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered" (Proverbs 28:26), "But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead" (2 Corinthians 1:9), "Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? if any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's" (2 Corinthians 10:7), "Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD" (Jeremiah 17:5), and finally, "Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit." (Jeremiah 7:8)
Rather, salvation is covenantal.
Let's put all this "dictionary" confusion to rest.
An examination of the 1000 most difficult words in the KJV reveals that God defines all of them, in the context, in their first usage, using the very words of the Webster's or Oxford English Dictionary. The brief overview of the Holy Bible's built-in dictionary in post #185 is offered to give enough examples of how God's built-in dictionary works, thereby allowing the reader a head-start in discovering this dictionary for himself.
Those who would champion the necessity of men's dictionaries have it backwards. The KJV is a looking glass, looking back at 1000 years of the history of our culture's thinking and beliefs. The Webster's and Oxford dictionaries match the KJV's definitions exactly, because the KJV preceded them. God created the meaning of the words in the Holy Bible itself. People read the Holy Bible and picked up those meanings. The dictionaries of men merely reflect the culture.
Attempting to slam the topic into a KJV-Only straw man argument or a secular dictionaries argument is a major fail. Scholars agree that the English language did not become fixed until the King James Bible. Earlier editions, like the Tyndale and the Geneva, although practically identical to the KJV, did not always contain the built-in dictionary found in the KJV. They did not need it, because they were written at that unusual juncture in history when English was becoming English; the root languages of Anglo-Saxon, French, and Latin were still familiar.
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Yes, just use a dictionary from the KJV era when dealing with words that make you go hmmmmm :)
Rockerduck
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I do. However, I grew up at a time when everyone used the KJV. I learned it then. I was merely recommending for new Christians or new to the KJV to use a Bible dictionary. I still go to bible studies with men using the KJV. It reads normal to us, and quoting the KJV is natural.
Rockerduck
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God gave us a brain to use and the Holy Spirit to guide into all knowledge and truth, and God gave us tools to use. How are you going learn the history of the middle east? How are going to learn about weddings in the first century, that Jesus refers to in His parables? What kind of bread at the Lord's supper? Etc. Yes, you need a bible dictionary.
You didn't reply to my post no. 207.
No idea what the above verses have to do with what I stated.
Paul believed that man must do the teaching:
2 Timothy 2:1-2
1You therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.
2The things which you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses, entrust these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.
For two thousand years, man has passed down the teachings of Jesus and the writers of the NT.
The problem began when we started using eisegesis instead of exegesis.
I believe in Apostolic succession.
Where there is no succession,,,the church has gone astray teaching differing doctrine.
If you'd like to put some attention on your verses from the NT,,,I would be happy to do so.
They would be:
Romans 6:16
James 1:5
James 4:1-3
2 Cor 1:9
2 Cor 10:7
This thread is about biblical versions...
a topic that does not interest me and I cannot remember what comment I made that got me here.
A person should read whatever version they understand.
Material sufficiency is in every version and available for salvation.
Unless, you can provide a verse that is so drastically different as to make salvation not possible.
Any other reason for reading scripture will necessitate theology, in which case no one version will be sufficient because the meaning of words does become very important.
For instance:
What does DRAW mean in John 12:32?
Some believe it means to drag, based on the usage of this word in other verses.
This would be important in delving into soteriology.
32“And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”
RandyDawson
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The gay people read the "queen james" version because it support homosexuality
Do you use the queen james version too and believe it's OK to be gay?
Do you think that's what gives the grad queens reason to think it's OK to dress in drag?
Senator elect Talrico down in Texas claims to be a Christian and he says Christians can be drag queens and gay.
Think he's right about that?
Some bible versions have been written to make them read as though this is all good with the Lord.
I don't know about a Queen James version.
My statements are general in nature and not specific to any one version.
Your questions are rather silly and I will not be responding to them.
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