Because salvation is not an offer by God, there is not the matter of accepting any offer. As I said God freely gave me His grace of salvation. As to how, I already told you. He did not ask me if I want to me saved or not, nor asked me if I permit or allow Him to save me. Nothing of that sort. When He quickened my spirit so that I am enabled to understand the gospel of Jesus Christ and the message of the cross, He did not ask me if I want and permit Him to quicken my spirit nor asked me if I want to understand the gospel. He just did. He also did not ask me if I want and permit Him to convict me of sin, of righteousness and judgment. He just did. He did not ask me if I want and allow Him to touch my heart and bring me to repentance unto Him. He just did. He also did not ask me if I want and allow Him to give me faith in Jesus Christ. He just did. Having done that all to me, I found myself wanting so much to believe in Him and in Jesus Christ, and so finally I found myself believing with all my heart, mind, and soul, freely and willingly. And I just knew I love Him more than anything else.Tong2020 said: ↑
You said “IF you have "received" Gods Gift of Salvation...
Please explain "if, how, by what method", that Gift was (rather than OFFERED)...
BUT....FORCED upon, to, in you...
WITHOUT your agreement of consent.”
Salvation is not forced upon me by God in any way, shape or form. It was given me. How? He had quickened my spirit, enabling me to understand the gospel of Christ and the message of the cross, convicted me of sin, righteousness, and judgment, brought me to repent unto Him, giving me faith towards Jesus Christ, and trust in Him. And thanks be to God, He saved me! And that is by His grace, and not by anything that comes from me nor any that I have done.
OKAY...
So , (is this correct?) God has a Gift of Salvation..
You did not have to agree to receive His gift, nor was it forced upon you (given you without your consent)....but you received His gift...
Without ever agreeing... eh?
I would only ask, please show scriptures that effectively shows God offering people salvation for their acceptance of refusal. Until then, I find no biblical basis for such a belief and teaching.I became fully aware of Gods Gift of Salvation, and Called ON HIS NAME, and MADE A True Heartful Confession OF my Word being IN Agreement with the Lords Word, and Agreement to Accept His Offering....ACCORDING TO HIS WORD.
His OFFER....WAS "IF" I heartfully agreed...
"THEN" He would give His Offered Salvation TO ME.
THIS IS Gods TERMS...of HOW TO ACCEPT His OFFERING...BY YOUR WORD.
"IF"...
Required CONFESSION and Required BELIEF IN ONE HEART.
I was aware of my freewill to CHOOSE Him.
Josh 24;
[15] And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD,choose you this day whom ye will serve;
I was aware my choosing Him was by my word of heartfully Confessing TO HIM.
Heb 10:
[9] That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
I was Aware of His WARNING to BE SURE of my Agreeing.
2 Pet 1:
[10] Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
Rom 10
[13] For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
1 Thes 1:
[4] Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.
I was Aware God would Verify that my Agreeing WAS TRUE or NOT.
Rev 2
[23] And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
So ya....I am aware of WHO Offered Salvation IS God....His Offering was To me....I accepted His Offering According to HIS WAY...
Choosing Him, Calling on Him, Confessing with my Hearts Belief In Him, Sure of My Choice, Election, Calling unto Him...and IN Full Agreement WITH HIM.
Apparently...you made no choice, no calling, no confession, no agreeing....
Apparently....you simply have Gods Gift of Salvation....because it was made available BY God...
NOT what Scriture teaches.
Josh.24 passage involves Israel. They already have knowledge of God and in fact, have experienced Him in so many ways. They were in fact called God’s chosen people, as God had chosen them from among the people of the world, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises. Joshua 24:15 was not an offer of salvation or a choice between being saved or not, but a choice between whom they will serve.
Hebrews 10, 2 Pet.1, Rom. 10, 1 Thes 1, Rev.2, all pertains to the Christian, who have knowledge of God and the gospel truth, and who have received Jesus Christ. They are believers already, presumed to all be true believers. So, what was written in those scriptures are not in any way, shape or form, an offer of salvation, but a telling and teaching of the things of the Spirit of God pertaining to their spiritual growth and life, and knowledge.
You said:
<<<So ya....I am aware of WHO Offered Salvation IS God....His Offering was To me....I accepted His Offering According to HIS WAY...
Choosing Him, Calling on Him, Confessing with my Hearts Belief In Him, Sure of My Choice, Election, Calling unto Him...and IN Full Agreement WITH HIM.
Apparently...you made no choice, no calling, no confession, no agreeing....
Apparently....you simply have Gods Gift of Salvation.>>>
In my case, God was the one who have chosen me, have foreknown me, predestined me, called me, justified me, and glorified. In other words, He saved me by His grace. That is why with all my heart, mind and soul, I know that only to Him rightfully belongs all glory, all praise, and all thanks!
Tong
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