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Ahh, but how do we know that God didn't have foreknowledge that Creation would fall? Maybe this was the plan all along?ALL-knowing. Was he also not all-intelligent. I concluded that God was not all-intelligent because His creation failed in what he wanted and that he's not ALL-knowing, that's why he didn't know it would fail. Discuss!
What's to discuss? You are totally off base since you imagine you are wiser than God.ALL-knowing. Was he also not all-intelligent. I concluded that God was not all-intelligent because His creation failed in what he wanted and that he's not ALL-knowing, that's why he didn't know it would fail. Discuss!
I want to know other ideas, that's why friendly jk. I don't want to say this about God, but that's all I could come up w/ and I would say it's ok for God to be not all-knowing or not all-intelligent. I would like to know other ideas that can be better than mine that would solve it better than me perhaps.What's to discuss? You are totally off base since you imagine you are wiser than God.
God sees the end from the beginning. He knows all things and sees all things. So He already saw that in the end He would have a family of God through Christ, and each one would have received the gift of everlasting life and the gift of the Holy Spirit. This would be far better than the Garden of Eden. God planned to make Christ the one who would have dominion over all creation and all creatures. So everything was part of a glorious plan, and we do not even know the half of it.I want to know other ideas, that's why friendly jk. I don't want to say this about God, but that's all I could come up w/ and I would say it's ok to be not all-knowing or not all-intelligent. I would like to know other ideas that can be better than mine that would solve it better than me perhaps.
God was not all-intelligent because His creation failed in what he wanted
He was grieved/disappointed at His creation so that's why I thought God was not exactly all-knowing or all-intelligentWhat did God want?
It is known that God works in mysterious ways. His motives and plans are concealed.
He was grieved/disappointed at His creation so that's why I thought God was not exactly all-knowing or all-intelligent
Well, you may have a point there.He was grieved/disappointed at His creation so that's why I thought God was not exactly all-knowing or all-intelligent
The Supralapsarian branch of Reformed theology believes God before the foundation of the world decreed who He would save and who He would damn. He then decreed the Fall in order to have something to save the Elect from, and something to damn the non-elect for. Even John Calvin called this "the horrible decree".How is it glorious if only a FEW would enter the narrow gate of everlasting life? I'd rather God be not all-knowing and not all-intelligent than to be the one who would know that MANY would go to hell
Ignorance is and will not be an excuse!!!!ALL-knowing. Was he also not all-intelligent. I concluded that God was not all-intelligent because His creation failed in what he wanted and that he's not all-knowing, that's why he didn't know it would fail. Discuss!
There isn’t infinite being and intelligence. Infinite being Is intelligence.ALL-knowing. Was he also not all-intelligent. I concluded that God was not all-intelligent because His creation failed in what he wanted and that he's not all-knowing, that's why he didn't know it would fail. Discuss!
Even evil serves God in the end.ALL-knowing. Was he also not all-intelligent. I concluded that God was not all-intelligent because His creation failed in what he wanted and that he's not all-knowing, that's why he didn't know it would fail. Discuss!
He put the Tree OF Knowledge of GOOD and EVIL on the Garden ALONG WITH allowing Satan in there for a purpose. He knew what would happen, it was part of the plan. We cannot really know and appreciate what is good (all of God's attributes and blessings) unless we go without and experience evil. We could not know what love is unless we don't have and all of of a sudden it comes along. Mercy, forgiveness, kindness, joy, love, patience, all are experienced in a state of need. If we didn't need anything, if we didn't suffer, pain and darkness, ee would not really appreciate and know what he LIGHT IS. God had to arrange it this way, a world of good and evil. Remember, it wasn't the Tree of Knowledge of Evil only! It was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.ALL-knowing. Was he also not all-intelligent. I concluded that God was not all-intelligent because His creation failed in what he wanted and that he's not all-knowing, that's why he didn't know it would fail. Discuss!
Infinite cannot know finite.He put the Tree OF Knowledge if GOO and EVIL on the Garden ALONG WITH allowing Satan in there for a purpose. He knew what would happen, it was part of thr plan. We cannot really know and appreciate what is good (all of God's attributes and blessings) unless we go without and experience evil. We could not know what love is unless we don't have and all of of a sudden it comes along. Mercy, forgiveness, kindness, joy, love, patience, all are experienced in a state of need. If we didn't need anything, if we didn't suffer, pain and darkness, ee would not really appreciate and know what he LIGHT IS. God had to arrange it this way, a world of good and evil. Remember, it wasn't the Tree of Knowledge of Evil only! It was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
I think the better argument is not with Adam and Eve but Israel, when Moses talked God out of destroying all Israel, He was so mad with their repeated disobedience.His creation failed
Can you elaborate on that?Infinite cannot know finite.
Happy to & thanks for asking.Can you elaborate on that?
Omniscient means He knows all - otherwise He could not be sovereign. There would not be prophecy accurately fulfulled. There could not be a Book of Life. We could really not depend on Him. His promises? ... Well, He could not make them. The gift of Faith would be propoed up with ifs and maybes ... uncertainties.
He knows how many hairs are on your head and when a sparrow falls to the ground.
Far out Phil. We used to use that term in the 70's when I smoked pot and did drugs. We used goof on abstract concepts too like yours. That was 50 years ago.Happy to & thanks for asking.
Infinite means boundless, limitless & immeasurable. So if there is finite, that which is bound, limited or measurable… then by definition there can not be infinite.
Analogously… Can there be a chair in an empty room?
Initially this seems paradoxical; either the room is empty, or there is a chair in the room.
However this is only the limitation of thought, which appears as only one ‘flavor’, that of duality; this, or that.
But inspection of direct experience without the application of thought can reveal more than thoughts about experience…
The emptiness or ‘space’ of an empty room is of course present before a chair is placed in the room, and the emptiness or space of an empty room remains present after the chair has been removed. The ‘tricky’ aspect is that the room is still the exact same emptiness or ‘space’ while the chair appears to be in the room.
For an infinite room, that is, a room which is boundless, limitless & immeasurable, there is nothing which prevents the room from being a chair.
Thus the infinite room can simultaneously be infinite, omniscient, and sovereign.
The infinite room which is being the chair could loosely be said to be the supreme & permanent authority, as it is, being the chair.
The infinite room could also be said to be all knowing, in that it is knowing that it is being, a “chair”.