A human form! What does that mean? Either he was a mortal human person or not I would think. It seem you are suggesting he was a hybrid human or some type of humanoid. I'm not trying to be funny either.
Was Jesus 'mortal' or 'immortal' ?
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The "hybrid" is pretty much standard theology, though, isn't it? "Fully God" and "fully human." We just had this discussion on another thread. If Jesus was "fully God," then He would have been omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, which He obviously wasn't. So then we have the wrinkle that He supposedly "limited" these divine attributes in submission to the Father. I'm not trying to be funny either, but it does become somewhat of a head-scratcher regardless of one's views on the Trinity.
Definitely, am not sharing with you, because you sound like an outsider who've sneaked in. A thief who have not come though the gate but have climb over the fence..
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Amen.
Jesus was 'mortal' or 'immortal' ?
'For we have not an High Priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.'
You got that right, they think they know something from the Bible scriptures, when apparently they know nothing at all.
Am not elated saying this, but am sad, tired and weary, going back and forth with them. And, we end up deviating from the topic of the thread itself. Ironically, to one tread topic, witness to how many post it gets to, even to another would post a new tread related to the same topic.
For it is written, 'Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.'
As Jesus disciple us, "You will know them by their fruit."
Peace in Jesus name.
Did you discuss Trinity in the correct site, especially, Bible discussion forum ?
Why don't you open a new tread there about Trinity ?
Peace in Jesus name.
Earth to Fred: I didn't discuss the Trinity AT ALL. Lambano suggested there was a forbidden topic on these forums. I simply asked what it was. Someone else explained it's the Trinity. Much ado about nothing.
i believe in the Trinity, FATHER, Son and the Holy Spirit.
In the matters of Heaven and earth, and church, the Three are one with each other in the GODHEAD.
Nothing is done that is done without the Three in union and action.
GOD is the HEAD of Christ, and Christ is the Head of the church, and the head of woman is man.
The Holy Spirit is with the church here on earth, representing the Son who represent GOD, and in union with all born again believers.
If this is difficult to grasp by some folks, so be it, and there are no issues. They can believe what they believe, but end of the day the Holy Bible is the authority to reckon with.
In the Gospel we can witness the Trinity in action at one occasion. When Jesus came out of the water, John the Baptist witnessed the Holy Spirit descend on Jesus in form of a dove. At the same time, the voice of GOD from Heaven spoke, and witnessed by those who are meant to witness.
Apparently, there are many other topics in regards the Holy Bible, even prior to quoting verses and explanation, we differ and are divided as well
Not to be picky but it doesn't matter if the Orthodox or Catholics agree. It is God's ways which are important. Religion isn't always Christian but Christianity is a Relationship with God through Jesus.
@Fred J I only look for or comment on the newer posts with just a few replies because the ones that have been going on forever are just going round in circles.
Right - but then you and whoever wrote the statement of faith have decided they are the arbiter's of "God's ways." That's my point - why would a Christianity forum need a corporate statement of faith that excludes the two oldest and largest Christian faiths on earth that account for significantly more than half of Christendom? Is a forum a church? A denomination of some sort? Is it a "thing" at all? Why would it intentionally want to be divisive right from the get-go? And now you're lecturing me as though you're the arbiter of Christianity for me. This is why I find a statement of faith for an internet forum slightly comical in the sense of absurd. I truly don't care about this issue to any great extent, but I am beginning to see a certain amount of wisdom in the other forum whose policy was "If you say you're a Christian, you're a Christian. Now let's get on with the conversation and see what being a Christian means to you." I think I am as steeped in theology, apologetics and creeds as much as anyone, and I am not prepared to tell anyone "This the definition of Christianity."
Earth to Fred: You apparently want to discuss the Trinity. The post of mine to which you responded had NOTHING - nada, zilch - to do with the Trinity. Who is the "we" you differ with and are "divided" from? It isn't me. If you're going to respond to my posts, at least take 15 seconds to comprehend them and don't make me the straw man for your lectures, well-intentioned as they may be.
I had nothing to do with writing the statement of faith or banning discussion about the trinity. My church has a statement of faith on its website so do other websites. It lets people know the important stuff about what they are about to join so that they are clear about what the group stands for.
If you want further answers take it up with one of the admin.
That’s a great example. See what you really are, and you’ll see what I’m really not.
No, I didn't think you did, but you did wade into the discussion and steered us to it. To be clear, I have no problem with the contents of the Statement of Faith. I don't agree with every word, but it's a fair summary of the Once Saved Always Saved branch of Protestantism. The Orthodox, Catholics and a fair number of Protestants wouldn't agree either, but that's OK. Even in regard to the supposedly forbidden topic of the Trinity, I pointed out that the Statement of Faith is actually pretty flexible as to what can be discussed. You, actually, took the discussion to the level of the Statement of Faith being the definition of "God's ways."
I'm not looking for a heated discussion over something I scarcely care about. I just find a forum statement of faith slighty absurd. No big deal.
Food for thought, perhaps: On another forum, I once went through the exercise, on a paragraph by paragraph basis, of pointing out how long and technical that forum's statement of faith was in comparison to the great creeds that have traditionally defined the Christian faith, such as the Nicene Creed and the Apostles' Creed. The fact that they are no longer "good enough," even for an internet discussion forum, surely tells us something. I think it says the Body of Christ has become ever-more fragmented and exclusionary.
I did not 'wade in' as you put it, I intended to be helpful by pointing you to the links. Aren't Christians supposed to be helpful? Or perhaps you didn't recognise it as helping. It's okay.
Sure, I recognized it as helpful and appreciated it! FWIW, I just used the exchange here as the launching pad for a new thread in the Theology forum. If it is helpful to anyone, then the exchange here has indeed been worthwhile.
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