Years ago Pope John Paul II visited a mosque and was gifted with a Koran, which the Pope kissed. Was he wrong to do so? Would Jesus have kissed that book?
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Years ago Pope John Paul II visited a mosque and was gifted with a Koran, which the Pope kissed. Was he wrong to do so? Would Jesus have kissed that book?
Isn't that the pope that woke up dead?Years ago Pope John Paul II visited a mosque and was gifted with a Koran, which the Pope kissed. Was he wrong to do so? Would Jesus have kissed that book?
Yes, he was wrong. And he shall answer to God for it.Years ago Pope John Paul II visited a mosque and was gifted with a Koran, which the Pope kissed. Was he wrong to do so? Would Jesus have kissed that book?
Many are not aware there is a pope that is higher rank than the pope everyone sees and calls "the pope." The Jesuit Superior General ...or the "black pope."Yes, he was wrong. And he shall answer to God for it.
Pope Francis permitted the Azan to be recited in St. Peter's years ago. He also permitted the desecration of the high altar there and with the placement of a pagan idol.
This is the first time in the history of the RCC that a Jesuit was elected pope. I think that was purposeful because Francis is Ecumenical.
Congratulations.Many are not aware there is a pope that is higher rank than the pope everyone sees and calls "the pope." The Jesuit Superior General ...or the "black pope."
Also, if you do a bit of research, you will find that the catholic and muslim religions both have Jesuit roots.
For starters – the Catholic Church goes all the way back to the Apostles.Many are not aware there is a pope that is higher rank than the pope everyone sees and calls "the pope." The Jesuit Superior General ...or the "black pope."
Also, if you do a bit of research, you will find that the catholic and muslim religions both have Jesuit roots.
Then why isn't "Catholic" mentioned even once in the Bible?For starters – the Catholic Church goes all the way back to the Apostles.
Actually - it IS . . .Then why isn't "Catholic" mentioned even once in the Bible?
That is blatantly incorrect, and is simply being 'asserted apriori' and proving what you wanted, and I reject such an unfounded assertion and method.Actually - it IS . . .
"Kata-holos" = CATHOLIC.
No it isn't. Who proclaimed you a Greek Language expert over our Bibles?Actually - it IS . . .
To answer: [1] "Yes". [2] "No."Years ago Pope John Paul II visited a mosque and was gifted with a Koran, which the Pope kissed. Was he wrong to do so? Would Jesus have kissed that book?
Oh, I think 'asinine' is incorrect, and quite understating the reality of things.Congratulations.
You have just posted the most asinine manure of the day.
Hopefully, tomorrow will be a better day for you . . .
Let's consider this 'asinine' (sic) historical material that links Rome to Islam:Congratulations.
You have just posted the most asinine manure of the day.
Hopefully, tomorrow will be a better day for you . . .
So, like a typical anti-Catholic - you didn't actually READ my post.That is blatantly incorrect, and is simply being 'asserted apriori' and proving what you wanted, and I reject such an unfounded assertion and method.
Act. 7:38 KJB This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
Act. 7:38 DR This is he that was in the church in the wilderness, with the angel who spoke to him on mount Sina, and with our fathers; who received the words of life to give unto us.
Also, the word 'catholic' is not once found in scripture, at all.
The word “catholic” [Greek, “καθολικος”, Greek Tr. “Katholikos”] is not found in scripture [KJB], nor even directly in the koine Greek manuscripts, but is rather a derivation of two koine Greek words:
[1] [G2596] “καθ” [from “κατα”, a 'preposition'], “kath”, meaning “through” and
[2] [G3650] “ολης” [an 'adjective' [in this instance, though can be used as noun or adverb]], “holos”, meaning “whole, all, entire”.
Therefore, both, when combined together, meaning the “throughout all” [Acts 9:31 KJB], the whole, entire, or 'universal'.
The word 'catholic' is supposedly, as a later adaptation, in the writings of Ignatius ca. AD 110 (however there are issues here as there are forgeries in some if not all of 'Ignatius'), and also by Cyril of Jerusalem, Ireneaus speaking about Polycarp, and used from the 2nd Century onward by a certain class of persons calling themselves by this name, and is ultimately made more and more prominent, especially in the reign of the Emperor Constantine, in the years of the 4 Emperors [and even afterward], and the various political-religious factions all vying for clout for their self-perceived doctrines. I will recommend you read The Two Republics, by A. T. Jones [approximate 1,000 pages], excellent history,- https://ia801409.us.archive.org/10/items/tworepublicsorr00jonegoog/tworepublicsorr00jonegoog.pdf
There are attempts [please note this word] by the apologists of “Catholicism” to 'find' this word “καθολικος” in the scripture [I cite the KJB, the KJB with Strong's notation, the Greek New Testament from Textus Receptus, and also the same with Strong's notation and Robinson's morphological analysis codes, for each verse, words highlighted]:
[01]
Acts 9:31 KJB - Then had the churches rest throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.
Act 9:31 KJB + - ThenG3767 (G3303) hadG2192 theG3588 churchesG1577 restG1515 throughoutG2596 allG3650 JudaeaG2449 andG2532 GalileeG1056 andG2532 Samaria,G4540 and were edified;G3618 andG2532 walkingG4198 in theG3588 fearG5401 of theG3588 Lord,G2962 andG2532 in theG3588 comfortG3874 of theG3588 HolyG40 Ghost,G4151 were multiplied.G4129
*This is the only known instance in the Greek TR texts, where these two words are side by side, yet are clearly two distinct words, not directly speaking of the “church” [“εκκλησιαι”, “ekklesiai”] itself as “καθολικος”, but rather references the locality adjectively [“throughout all”] in which the “church” had “rest” [from persecution].
[02]
Romans 16:23 KJB - Gaius mine host, and of the whole church, saluteth you. Erastus the chamberlain of the city saluteth you, and Quartus a brother.
*In this instance, the koine Greek word [G2596] “καθ”, is not used at all in combination “ολης”. The word “ολης” is simply being used [as in many other places, 112 KJB [G3650]] as an adjective [“A-GSF”, Adjective – Genative, Singular, Feminine], to describe the amount [of persons thereof, locally] of the church who is [are] doing the greeting [“Tertius”, vs 22], with Paul and Gaius [Paul's “host”]. It is just simply including everyone in the church in the greeting, even after having listed a bunch of names to be greeted [vss. 1-16]. It does not designate the church as “καθολικος”.
[03]
1 Corinthians 14:23 KJB - If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
1 Corinthians 14:23 KJB + - IfG1437 thereforeG3767 theG3588 wholeG3650 churchG1577 be come togetherG4905 intoG1909 one place,G846 andG2532 allG3956 speakG2980 with tongues,G1100 andG1161 there come inG1525 those that are unlearned,G2399 orG2228 unbelievers,G571 will they notG3756 sayG2046 thatG3754 ye are mad?G3105
1 Corinthians 14:23 GNT TR - εαν ουν συνελθη η εκκλησια ολη επι το αυτο και παντες γλωσσαις λαλωσιν εισελθωσιν δε ιδιωται η απιστοι ουκ ερουσιν οτι μαινεσθε
1 Corinthians 14:23 GN TR + - εανG1437 COND ουνG3767 CONJ συνελθηG4905 V-2AAS-3S ηG3588 T-NSF εκκλησιαG1577 N-NSF οληG3650 A-NSF επιG1909 PREP τοG3588 T-ASN αυτοG846 P-ASN καιG2532 CONJ παντεςG3956 A-NPM γλωσσαιςG1100 N-DPF λαλωσινG2980 V-PAS-3P εισελθωσινG1525 V-2AAS-3P δεG1161 CONJ ιδιωταιG2399 N-NPM ηG2228 PRT απιστοιG571 A-NPM ουκG3756 PRT-N ερουσινG2046 V-FAI-3P οτιG3754 CONJ μαινεσθεG3105 V-PNI-2P
*In this instance, the koine Greek word [G2596] “καθ”, is not used at all in combination “ολης”. The word “ολης” is simply being used [as in many other places, 112 KJB [G3650]] as an adjective [“A-GSF”, Adjective – Nominative, Singular, Feminine], to describe the amount [of persons thereof, locally] of the church if [a possibility] they came together as one group. It does not designate the church as “καθολικος”.
Each attempt to 'find' this word, “καθολικος”, in scripture [KJB] yields no [0] results. The words “καθ” [used 378 times in the GNT TR, G2596] and/or “ολης” [used 112 times in the GNT TR, G3650] are used throughout the scripture, in various ways, most of which are never in connection with the word “εκκλησια” whatsoever.
This is further confirmed by the Jesuit ('catholic') 'bible' itself, put together in the late 1500's, early 1600's AD (NT 1582 AD, OT 1609-10 AD) or more 'modern translations' approved by the 'catholic church' likewise ( Approved Translations of the Bible | USCCB or The New American Bible ), wherein if we simply search for the word 'catholic' in the text, the verses, itself (apart from footnotes, commentary, headings), we get the following result, which confirms the earlier statements of myself: "Could not find 'catholic' in any verses of the Whole Bible." - # SEARCH catholic and the same result in the NAB ( The New American Bible - IntraText Concordances: «catholic» )
The church in the NT was called "sect of the Nazarenes", Act. 24:5; "the way which they call heresy", Act. 24:14 (and I am of this number, as 'catholicism' so designates); "the way", Act. 18:26, and also "Christians", Act. 11:26, 26:28; 1 Peter 4:16. Please notice that last one. Peter himself said "christian", not ever did he take up the word 'catholic' in the scriptures, nor epistles.
What I posted is linguistically accurate - and taken from Strong's Greek Concordance and Lexicon.No it isn't. Who proclaimed you a Greek Language expert over our Bibles?
Let's consider this 'asinine' (sic) historical material that links Rome to Islam:Congratulations.
You have just posted the most asinine manure of the day.
Hopefully, tomorrow will be a better day for you . . .
How long have you been a Greek expert?So, like a typical anti-Catholic - you didn't actually READ my post.
THIS is the line you completely glossed over in your tirade:
"The Catholic Church gets its name from the GREEK for “according to the whole” and “universal” - εκκλησια καθ ολης, which is pronounced “ekklesia katah-holos”."
Next time - STOP and READ what you are ranting about . . .
Let's consider this 'asinine' (sic) historical material that links Rome to Islam:Congratulations.
You have just posted the most asinine manure of the day.
Hopefully, tomorrow will be a better day for you . . .