Washington Helped Trigger The Ukraine War

[Ronald Nolette]

I need to take a break for awhile.

TTYLO.

OK.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

"Compelled" would not be the correct term. "Strongly encouraged" would be better. So here is how Biden strongly encouraged Russia to attack Ukraine:

1. From the very first day in office, Biden destroyed the oil and gas industry in North America. At the same time he began purchasing Russian oil and pouring billions into the Russian economy. So Putin said to himself "Stupid is as stupid does".

2. At the same time Biden encouraged Russia to proceed with its Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which showed Putin his double standard regarding oil and gas. Putin was pleased as Punch and Americans were subjected to skyrocketing prices at the pumps.

3. Biden deliberately sabotaged the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan to show the world the total military incompetence of America. This disaster gave a signal to Putin that America is basically finished as a military power. At the same time Biden gave the Taliban a treasure trove worth billions for nothing in return. Once again Putin said to himself "Stupid is as stupid does".

4. The overall incompetence and malicious destruction of America by the Biden administration meant that the US would do little or nothing about Ukraine or any other Russian adventure. This proved to be true. If Biden cared nothing for America's borders, why would he care about any other country's borders?

5. For almost three months the Biden administration kept dithering about the response of the US and NATO to Russian aggression. Nobody drew a clear "red line" to tell Putin that Ukraine was out of bounds. All the military assistance has come only after repeated pleadings by Zelensky -- too little and too late.

6. Western intelligence about Russian plans was almost non-existent, while nobody from the West actually went to Ukraine to draw up a serious plan of defense. Which meant that the West was willing to hand over Ukraine to Russia (just like Obama did with Crimea).

Now if you were Putin you would say "There is no danger from Western interference, and Biden is actually funding my war. So what better time to attack Ukraine than right now?" And that is exactly what he did. But he did not factor in Ukrainian resistance, and now he is looking rather foolish, as is Joseph Biden.

WOW! YOu justify a madman's insanity because of Western Incompetence! Just proves He needed the least little encouragement to commit wholesale murder!

Maybe we should have pushed real hard for Ukraine joining NATO and make the madman afraid then!

 

[Hidden In Him]

I also have lots of respect for the Journalists on the BBC

The BBC? Ronald, The BBC is worse than CNN. They're like the mother of the harlots of Western media. You are straining a gnat and swallowing a camel if you think reporters for The BBC are "reliable" sources of unbiased reporting.

A privately funded man can be just as biased as a media funded man. Bias is bias no matter who funds you.

Well Russia has a doctrine known as Maskirovka- which is to intentionally disseminate misinformation!... So you are simply wrong!

Of course a man can be. The question is, IS he. What do you base your argument on that Lancaster is a Russian plant other than opinion?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The BBC? Ronald, The BBC is worse than CNN. They're like the mother of the harlots of Western media. You are straining a gnat and swallowing a camel if you think reporters for The BBC are "reliable" sources of unbiased reporting.

And your proof is? What is the objective standard you use to measure who is a harlot and who is not! T%oo bad you did not pay attention to teh rest of my post about distinguishing between journalists and talking heads!

Of course a man can be. The question is, IS he. What do you base your argument on that Lancaster is a Russian plant other than opinion?

Well I don't know if he is a Russian plant. anti-western, anti great reset, a socialist, or a purple people eater! But is do question His integrity , when he cites as His expert source one3 who was convicted for securities fraud, stealing millions from people and is a self proclaimed self taught financial; expert! When he leads with that, it throws his whole article into serious doubt! That gives you a clue into how I view articles. Now how about some hard facts on why BBC is like the mother of harlots for the West.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

" Washington Helped Trigger The Ukraine War
The magnitude of the aggressive moves taken by the Pentagon and CIA are just now becoming apparent."
Washington Helped Trigger the Ukraine War - The American Conservative

Spirit tell me some in Biden admin wanted this war in Ukraine. Not sure why.

this guy is very biased!

Why do I say that?
First paragraph:

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MILITARY & DEFENSE,REALISM & RESTRAINT
Washington Helped Trigger The Ukraine War
The magnitude of the aggressive moves taken by the Pentagon and CIA are just now becoming apparent.



MARCH 25, 2022

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12:01 AM

TED GALEN CARPENTER
An article by Yahoo national security correspondent Zach Dorfman praising U.S. intelligence agencies for accurately predicting Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine inadvertently highlights the extent of Washington’s military provocations in Ukraine during the period before the outbreak of hostilities. Those measures went well beyond the ill-advised political decision on the part of George Bush’s administration and its successors to push for Ukraine’s admission to NATO.

Earlier warnings from realist scholars that NATO’s eastward expansion to Russia’s border was poisoning relations with Moscow are finally getting attention


REalist Scholars??? so to disagree with them makes you unrealistic! typical answer from self proclaimed experts!

Here is what thewir anwer is to Norway and Finland. "You want to join NATO because of what Putin is doing ot eh Ukraine and has been doing since 2014? Sorry we are not going to let you join because it just might make Putin angrier! Neville Chamberlain all over again!

 

[Hidden In Him]

And your proof is? What is the objective standard you use to measure who is a harlot and who is not! T%oo bad you did not pay attention to teh rest of my post about distinguishing between journalists and talking heads!

My point, Ronald, was that ANYONE working for the BBC will get the hook unless they tow the globalist party line.

Now how about some hard facts on why BBC is like the mother of harlots for the West.

The plea for "hard facts" again, LoL. Did we not have this discussion? Show me "hard facts" for the existence of Satan, Ronald, and if you can't then your Bible is unsubstantiated quackery. Get the point? We've been through this already, and you are the only member on this forum who resorts to making this request where spiritual-discernment is needed, not a demand for "hard facts" or someone's position is invalid.

But again, I don't think you listen to anyone else, which is why people have to repeat themselves over and over again to you, and unfortunately that gets pretty old after awhile.

So I guess I'm out.
God bless,
- H

 

[Ronald Nolette]

My point, Ronald, was that ANYONE working for the BBC will get the hook unless they tow the globalist party line.


The plea for "hard facts" again, LoL. Did we not have this discussion? Show me "hard facts" for the existence of Satan, Ronald, and if you can't then your Bible is unsubstantiated quackery. Get the point? We've been through this already, and you are the only member on this forum who resorts to making this request where spiritual-discernment is needed, not a demand for "hard facts" or someone's position is dismissed as invalid.

But again, I don't think you listen to anyone else, which is why people have to repeat themselves over and over again to you, and unfortunately that gets pretty old after awhile.

So I guess I'm out.
God bless,
- H

Well you can believe whatever mythsa bout me you wish.

I guess maybe you don't believe in the resurrection of Jesus either? After all all we have is a book.

Spiritual discernment for deciding which journalists are biased or not? How do you know you are getting the right spirit in that?

Well you are making accusations against people calling their integrity into question! If you can't give more than " the spirit moved me to believe that"{ YOu are a poor defender of your position indeed!

My bible? I didn't even know I wrote one! Well if I take your writings at face value then all your statements are mere subjective evaluations based on nothing but feelings or intuition or whatever you wish to call it.

YOu are drawing from teh dregs of sewerage in not defnding yourself here.

You love throwing out accusations, but then bas your defense on feelings!

You sound alot like Joseph Smithy, Brigham Young, Charles Russell, Mary Baker Eddy, Father divine and Jim Jones!

 

[Enoch111]

WOW! YOu justify a madman's insanity because of Western Incompetence!

I am not "justifying" what Putin has done. I am giving you the geo-political reasons why Putin decided that now was the time to grab Ukraine. There would never be a better time with Biden aiding and abetting him. Do you recall how reluctant Joe Biden was to take positive steps to protect Ukraine? He was handing Ukraine to Putin on a platter. Of course, no one counted on the resolve of the Ukrainians. And now Poland and the Baltic countries are standing with Ukraine. So it ain't over till its over.

 

[dev553344]

" Washington Helped Trigger The Ukraine War
The magnitude of the aggressive moves taken by the Pentagon and CIA are just now becoming apparent."
Washington Helped Trigger the Ukraine War - The American Conservative

Spirit tell me some in Biden admin wanted this war in Ukraine. Not sure why.

Trump triggered the war by supplying Ukraine with weapons. That set Russia off.

 

[Enoch111]

Trump triggered the war by supplying Ukraine with weapons. That set Russia off.

The Western nations have been supplying all kinds of countries with weapons for ages. That does not make them directly responsible for irresponsible wars by those countries. So if Trump supplied weapons to Ukraine, it means absolutely nothing. Russia had no moral or legal right to attack Ukraine with the goal of annexing it. Period.

The actual motivation of Putin was quite different. He first claimed to be "de-Nazifying" Ukraine which was total baloney. Then he came up with half a dozen other reasons, which were also nonsensical. But he was following the pattern of "The Wolf and the Lamb" in Aesop's Fables.

A Wolf was drinking at a spring on a hillside. On looking up he saw a Lamb just beginning to drink lower down. “There’s my supper,” thought he, “if only I can find some excuse to seize it.” He called out to the Lamb, “How dare you muddy my drinking water?”

“No,” said the Lamb; “if the water is muddy up there, I cannot be the cause of it, for it runs down from you to me.”

“Well, then,” said the Wolf, “why did you call me bad names this time last year?”

“That cannot be,” said the Lamb; “I am only six months old.”

“I don’t care,” snarled the Wolf; “if it was not you, it was your father;” and with that he rushed upon the poor little Lamb and ate her all up.

LESSON: THE TYRANT CAN ALWAYS FIND AN EXCUSE FOR HIS TYRANNY.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I am not "justifying" what Putin has done. I am giving you the geo-political reasons why Putin decided that now was the time to grab Ukraine. There would never be a better time with Biden aiding and abetting him. Do you recall how reluctant Joe Biden was to take positive steps to protect Ukraine? He was handing Ukraine to Putin on a platter. Of course, no one counted on the resolve of the Ukrainians. And now Poland and the Baltic countries are standing with Ukraine. So it ain't over till its over.

Well superficiall;y it looked good, but looks can and in this case were very decieving.

He has committed massive war crimes and have lost alot of troops and material in his so far failed bid to take Ukraine. And the way he is bombing and laying waste to teh major cities, if he does win- it will truly be a pyrrhic victory.

 

[Truth7t7]

The Western nations have been supplying all kinds of countries with weapons for ages. That does not make them directly responsible for irresponsible wars by those countries. So if Trump supplied weapons to Ukraine, it means absolutely nothing. Russia had no moral or legal right to attack Ukraine with the goal of annexing it. Period.

The actual motivation of Putin was quite different. He first claimed to be "de-Nazifying" Ukraine which was total baloney. Then he came up with half a dozen other reasons, which were also nonsensical. But he was following the pattern of "The Wolf and the Lamb" in Aesop's Fables.

A Wolf was drinking at a spring on a hillside. On looking up he saw a Lamb just beginning to drink lower down. “There’s my supper,” thought he, “if only I can find some excuse to seize it.” He called out to the Lamb, “How dare you muddy my drinking water?”

“No,” said the Lamb; “if the water is muddy up there, I cannot be the cause of it, for it runs down from you to me.”

“Well, then,” said the Wolf, “why did you call me bad names this time last year?”

“That cannot be,” said the Lamb; “I am only six months old.”

“I don’t care,” snarled the Wolf; “if it was not you, it was your father;” and with that he rushed upon the poor little Lamb and ate her all up.

LESSON: THE TYRANT CAN ALWAYS FIND AN EXCUSE FOR HIS TYRANNY.

80%+ Of Crimeans Supported Leaving Ukraine, Don't Be Deceived By The Western Media

Forbes
One Year After Russia Annexed Crimea, Locals Prefer Moscow To Kiev
Mar 20, 2015

The U.S and European Union may want to save Crimeans from themselves. But the Crimeans are happy right where they are.

One year after the annexation of the Ukrainian peninsula in the Black Sea, poll after poll shows that the locals there — be they Ukrainians, ethnic Russians or Tatars are mostly all in agreement: life with Russia is better than life with Ukraine.

Little has changed over the last 12 months. Despite huge efforts on the part of Kiev, Brussels, Washington and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, the bulk of humanity living on the Black Sea peninsula believe the referendum to secede from Ukraine was legit. At some point, the West will have to recognize Crimea’s right to self rule. Unless we are all to believe that the locals polled by Gallup and GfK were done so with FSB bogey men standing by with guns in their hands.

In June 2014, a Gallup poll with the Broadcasting Board of Governors asked Crimeans if the results in the March 16, 2014 referendum to secede reflected the views of the people. A total of 82.8% of Crimeans said yes. When broken down by ethnicity, 93.6% of ethnic Russians said they believed the vote to secede was legitimate, while 68.4% of Ukrainians felt so. Moreover, when asked if joining Russia will ultimately make life better for them and their family, 73.9% said yes while 5.5% said no.

In February 2015, a poll by German polling firm GfK revealed that attitudes have not changed. When asked “Do you endorse Russia’s annexation of Crimea?”, a total of 82% of the respondents answered “yes, definitely,” and another 11% answered “yes, for the most part.” Only 2% said they didn’t know, and another 2% said no. Three percent did not specify their position.

 

[Truth7t7]

The Western nations have been supplying all kinds of countries with weapons for ages. That does not make them directly responsible for irresponsible wars by those countries. So if Trump supplied weapons to Ukraine, it means absolutely nothing. Russia had no moral or legal right to attack Ukraine with the goal of annexing it. Period.

The actual motivation of Putin was quite different. He first claimed to be "de-Nazifying" Ukraine which was total baloney. Then he came up with half a dozen other reasons, which were also nonsensical. But he was following the pattern of "The Wolf and the Lamb" in Aesop's Fables.

A Wolf was drinking at a spring on a hillside. On looking up he saw a Lamb just beginning to drink lower down. “There’s my supper,” thought he, “if only I can find some excuse to seize it.” He called out to the Lamb, “How dare you muddy my drinking water?”

“No,” said the Lamb; “if the water is muddy up there, I cannot be the cause of it, for it runs down from you to me.”

“Well, then,” said the Wolf, “why did you call me bad names this time last year?”

“That cannot be,” said the Lamb; “I am only six months old.”

“I don’t care,” snarled the Wolf; “if it was not you, it was your father;” and with that he rushed upon the poor little Lamb and ate her all up.

LESSON: THE TYRANT CAN ALWAYS FIND AN EXCUSE FOR HIS TYRANNY.

Zelenskyy and his military are the war criminals, Zelenskyy abolished his rival political parties, and took over the media outlets

Zelenskyy is a criminal dictator, killing and destroying civilians and their homes

 

[lforrest]

80%+ Of Crimeans Supported Leaving Ukraine, Don't Be Deceived By The Western Media

Forbes
One Year After Russia Annexed Crimea, Locals Prefer Moscow To Kiev
Mar 20, 2015

The U.S and European Union may want to save Crimeans from themselves. But the Crimeans are happy right where they are.

One year after the annexation of the Ukrainian peninsula in the Black Sea, poll after poll shows that the locals there — be they Ukrainians, ethnic Russians or Tatars are mostly all in agreement: life with Russia is better than life with Ukraine.

Little has changed over the last 12 months. Despite huge efforts on the part of Kiev, Brussels, Washington and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, the bulk of humanity living on the Black Sea peninsula believe the referendum to secede from Ukraine was legit. At some point, the West will have to recognize Crimea’s right to self rule. Unless we are all to believe that the locals polled by Gallup and GfK were done so with FSB bogey men standing by with guns in their hands.

In June 2014, a Gallup poll with the Broadcasting Board of Governors asked Crimeans if the results in the March 16, 2014 referendum to secede reflected the views of the people. A total of 82.8% of Crimeans said yes. When broken down by ethnicity, 93.6% of ethnic Russians said they believed the vote to secede was legitimate, while 68.4% of Ukrainians felt so. Moreover, when asked if joining Russia will ultimately make life better for them and their family, 73.9% said yes while 5.5% said no.

In February 2015, a poll by German polling firm GfK revealed that attitudes have not changed. When asked “Do you endorse Russia’s annexation of Crimea?”, a total of 82% of the respondents answered “yes, definitely,” and another 11% answered “yes, for the most part.” Only 2% said they didn’t know, and another 2% said no. Three percent did not specify their position.

The Democratic vote and support for leaving the Ukraine may not have been enough to make it legal. Much like the justification for the US civil war, succession is a national concern, not just regional.

 

[Truth7t7]

The Democratic vote and support for leaving the Ukraine may not have been enough to make it legal. Much like the justification for the US civil war, succession is a national concern, not just regional.

I fully agree succession is a national concern, however 80%+ of the people didn't want Ukraines government, and the ally to Crimea "Russia" secured their wishes, same is taking place in Mariupol and the Donbas

I fully agree a civil war has been taking place for the past 8 years in Ukraine, the Donbas and Mariupol will no longer be part of Ukraine

The next 2-3 weeks are going to be action packed, as Russia secures all land east of the Dnieper river

40-60 thousand Ukranian troops are surrounded in the Eastern Donbas region, the last phase of the battle has begun

PS: The recent Russian missile destruction of the military installation in Lviv, "WAS" western supplies coming in through Poland, Russia has Ukraine under lock and key, nothing is getting into the war zone

The Ole Saying, Possession Is 9/10 of the law, its my hope and prayer Zelenskyy surrenders, save lives Ukraine isn't going to win

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Nj73]

Mariupol Residents Accuse Ukraine Of Firing On Civilians


Civilians in Ukraine saying their own military shooting at them. It definitely seem genuine.
To create media propaganda of course. CNN will not ask for evidence.

Bidens handlers want this war i am told spiritually.

 

[Truth7t7]

Mariupol Residents Accuse Ukraine Of Firing On Civilians


Civilians in Ukraine saying their own military shooting at them. It definitely seem genuine.
To create media propaganda of course. CNN will not ask for evidence.

Bidens handlers want this war i am told spiritually.

Yes Zelenskyy's military in Mariupol was killing ethnic Russian Ukranians, Zelenskyy and his military are the war criminals that the MSM is silent on

 

[Nj73]

Infowars Article

"In an article about the potential for a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia, the Washington Post admits that some within NATO want to prolong the war for as long as possible."

 

[Nj73]

Looks like they killed this guy who have been exposing the western intelligence propaganda in Ukraine.

 

[Truth7t7]

Looks like they killed this guy who have been exposing the western intelligence propaganda in Ukraine.

Yep, tons of lies in propaganda, the Western MSM is full of them in fake photo ops etc

Several actual American volunteers have went to Ukraine to fight, and got there to find out they had no guns and ammo for volunteers, they posted honest videos in my observation warning persons not to go, it's a trap

Many were ordered to the front lines, without weapons or supplies,under a threat of death if they tried to leave, several made it out through the red cross

Video links have been taken down and censored, I will continue to look for one,and will post it here in a revision

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