WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

[GodsGrace]

I understand! I've planted, another may water, and if it be the will of God your understanding shall be increased that you might be able to one day give an answer from the Word of God for how the life we receive when we have been born again of Christ's Spirit is ETERNAL LIFE that is dependent solely upon the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ.

rwb
When you grow up and become mature and can have an adult conversation about this
instead of parroting to me words you have memorized....
let me know and we can continue.

Don't think I said I'm done here because I have nothing else to tell you.

I've asked for your to reply to my posts to you.
You have refused to do that.

For now,,,you understand NOTHING.

When you're ready for a real conversation...
come back.

When the student is ready,
the teacher will appear.

 

[GodsGrace]

1 John 3:4-10 (E.S.V.)
4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.
5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.
6 No-one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.
8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.
9 No-one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.
10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practise righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

The conduct that characterises our lives is the proof of whether or not we have been saved. If someone habitually wants to sin, then that is proof that that person is not born again.

We all sin sometimes; but, those who have been saved are sorry and confess their sins to God, asking for his forgiveness, through the blood of Christ.

Do you agree with the following then?

Hebrews 5:9
9And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation,

Jesus became the source of salvation,
to all those who obey Him.

 

[rwb]

rwb
When you grow up and become mature and can have an adult conversation about this
instead of parroting to me words you have memorized....
let me know and we can continue.

Don't think I said I'm done here because I have nothing else to tell you.

I've asked for your to reply to my posts to you.
You have refused to do that.

For now,,,you understand NOTHING.

When you're ready for a real conversation...
come back.

When the student is ready,
the teacher will appear.

One called to be a teacher of biblical doctrine is equipped to defend from the Bible the doctrine they espouse. You have repeatedly now failed to defend or prove that eternal life in Christ is not really eternal, (as you believe), even though the Bible is abundantly clear that Christ does not lie. Because He has given us assurance that all who have been born again of His Spirit know and have entered the Kingdom of God, and NONE of them can be cast out of the Kingdom of God because the blood of Christ shed on the cross assures us that our sins are forgiven through His righteousness and the life we possess through Him is ETERNAL.

 

[rwb]

Do you agree with the following then?

Hebrews 5:9
9And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation,

Jesus became the source of salvation,
to all those who obey Him.

Who will obey Him?

 

[GodsGrace]

Who will obey Him?

I don't mean to be rude rwb.

When YOU reply to my few posts to you where I showed WITH SCRIPTURE that our salvation depends on our obedience...
this conversation can continue.

It will NOT continue by you repeating to me, like a parrot,
that salvation is eternal and posting verses that do not PROVE THIS.

 

[rwb]

I don't mean to be rude rwb.

When YOU reply to my few posts to you where I showed WITH SCRIPTURE that our salvation depends on our obedience...
this conversation can continue.

It will NOT continue by you repeating to me, like a parrot,
that salvation is eternal and posting verses that do not PROVE THIS.

I will not, no, I cannot give affirmations to posts that say our salvation depends on our obedience! Why? Because this is NOT truth! The reason you choose to stop this conversation with me is because you cannot prove that eternal life we possess when we have been born again is NOT really eternal after all. Salvation (which is to possess eternal life) is the gift of grace through faith, the gift of God, not according to our good works that none can boast, but good works created in Christ ordained by God that we should walk in them. Even our obedient works of faith we do through Christ working in us to will and do of His good pleasure.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

When we have been born again we are called to work out, (not for) our salvation through God who works in us to will and do of His good pleasure.

1 Thessalonians 2:13 (KJV) For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

Php 2:12 ¶ Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

 

[GodsGrace]

I will not, no, I cannot give affirmations to posts that say our salvation depends on our obedience! Why? Because this is NOT truth! The reason you choose to stop this conversation with me is because you cannot prove that eternal life we possess when we have been born again is NOT really eternal after all. Salvation (which is to possess eternal life) is the gift of grace through faith, the gift of God, not according to our good works that none can boast, but good works created in Christ ordained by God that we should walk in them. Even our obedient works of faith we do through Christ working in us to will and do of His good pleasure.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

When we have been born again we are called to work out, (not for) our salvation through God who works in us to will and do of His good pleasure.

1 Thessalonians 2:13 (KJV) For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

Php 2:12 ¶ Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

 

[rwb]

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Sadly, GG, when it comes to the doctrine of eternal security through the righteousness of Christ your silence is noted.