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Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by justbyfaith, Sep 9, 2018.

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    however we have our own body of civil authorities that we must obey, regardless of your beliefs on the matter and wadr
     
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    here i would first reflect on the correct interp of "there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ," since that is not what the v says anyway, and then i would challenge this ID of those who are in Christ, as "few there are who find it." Iow "if" is a really big word, and the pov essentially describes no one, practically speaking. i could even Quote Scripture saying the same thing i'm pretty sure
     
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    The concept is stronger when you look at it in John 5:24 (kjv).
     
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    They also, basically sit in Moses' seat, as I interpret it.
     
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    The fact that we are forgiven of our sins also means that we will not be condemned at the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15) because our names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life; because our sins are forgiven (Romans 4:6-8).

    What misstatements? (I am always open to correction).
     
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    I asked this also of him in a different thread; and found out that it means With All Due Respect.
     
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    Thanks I forgot.

    Won't be long until I think it means "What a dumb response" again.
     
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    LOL!
     
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    Amen that is pretty hilarious I have to say.
     
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    Like I originally meant impaho to mean in my personal and humble opinion, but someone thought that I was coming across more as saying, in my perfect and honest opinion lol.
     
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    well, i'd suggest that is a completely different subject and is likely being misinterpreted too, but i guess these also work to an extent on a logical level, ya. That one i don't think is even translated right tbh, but the point still gets across i guess. But the syntax is wrong, i can tell some Anglo scribe has been at it

    ok, for instance "there is now no condemnation in those who are in" well all sins are forgiven, even Hitler's, so the pov that "we" is some special group that is being respected for our beliefs is a fail, which i guess you don't much wanna hear but there it is
    so then, if you reject kings amen; your choices are anarchy or chaos, and these are also often conflated.
    fwiw i am a committed anarchist, telling you that imo you must obey the law
    the prob there is likely who you are IDing as being "we" there, along with some other logical assumptions that may turn out to not be correct, for instance you now envision some future Courtroom Scenario at this GWT judgement perhaps, or prolly God sitting on this throne, judging people, etc, and these do not hold up to a holistic view of Scripture imo
    ha well, any, see, any mis-statement would have been punishable by death, even saying "before Abraham was, I AM" was a stoning offense--not a crucifying one, btw, big clue there--all of the oracles in here would be dead long time ago, etc, simply for the way in which their statements are put
    see, there is no offense in this, regardless of whether i like it or not, an opinion is plainly being expressed, thank God for ppl who disagree, etc
    imho is generally understood as 'in my humble opinion,' although forrest might have a gratuitous alt for that too, dunno lol
     
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    This is known as "a wall of text" and will discourage the most daunting of readers.

    You look at the volume and go "not me" !
     
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    i was getting complaints of multiple posts in a thread, and asked to respond that way fwiw
    as walls go around here seems pretty modest to me anyway lol
     
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    It was a crucifying offense that Jesus claimed to be God in Mark 14:61-64. He was crucified from the Jews' perspective for the sin of blasphemy according to that passage.

    Not unless he became a born again Christian before he died and nobody became aware of it but God.
     
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    but as you surely know Jesus never claimed to be God, and in fact made the division quite clear elsewhere, more than once.
    honest injun, Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, and "born again Christian" is something Some Guy made up to sell more tix ok. You are not going to be accorded any special privileges bc of some lie you told down front 40 years ago, and anyone who suggests otherwise to you is a raging hypocrite, wadr. If you need evidence of the lie i can provide it, in living color ok, please, please ask me to prove what a hypocrite you are

    Mark 3:28 "Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men

    and i got like 50 more. Religious people really should read the Bible, no offense. And then go seek Word. Some determinist oompa-loompa makes you go to a place called "church" against your will until you become convinced that you can become immortal too and then your brains all leak out your damned heads lol

    if you dig a pit for someone else, you will end up in it yourself, ok
     
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    As a matter of fact He did (John 8:24 and John 8:58 w/ John 8:59 and John 10:31-33 and Exodus 3:14). You obviously have not been paying attention.

    The "lie" about being born again is substantiated by scripture (John 3:1-8, 1 Peter 1:23). And in the first passage mentioned (in v. 5), it is clear that a man cannot enter the kingdom of God apart from being born again. If you knew your Bible you would know this. Perhaps you should spend more time reading before you try to contend against the faith. Because as it is, you appear to be very unknowledgeable.

    You didn't quote the whole of the verse. There is a "but" there. The blasphemy of the Holy Ghost amounts to rejecting the salvation that Jesus Christ offers to the day of one's death.

    This does not apply to God; and it also does not apply to His children who repeat the judgments of the Lord. For we are not digging a pit, we are warning people about a pit that someone else (the devil) dug for people to fall in.
     
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    I'm asking...but please take into consideration my signature if you are going to call me a hypocrite based on the fact that I am a sinner. Everyone is...it is those who do not admit that they are sinners who are the hypocrites...they put their best foot forward and want people to believe about them differently than is the truth about who they really are.

    People who understand that they are sinners and do not hide the fact that they are, are the ones who are devoid of hypocrisy...because they are not trying to tell people that they are someone that they are not.
     
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    yes, i'm fam with the drill ok, and you can just keep believing that if you like. I'm done posting refuting vv that you won't read anyway, and if you want to worship your High Priest i personally have no problem with Catholics or Pagans who are doing works meet for rebound. I know why you need Jesus to be God now wadr, instead of God is the Head of Christ.
    Not even the Son knows, only the Father.
     
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    nice imo.

    i think the mechanism is to first get an Absolute Truth established in someone's mind--everyone's if possible, all diff ATs--and then this what is now a victim can basically abdicate personal responsibility by leaning on their "beliefs" that are now Absolute Truths, hence to "I'm not digging any pits for others, Jesus is, honest. Here, let me interpret that for you bc i know, and this is not a request."

    So then we are led to vain imaginings that we think we can even read from the Book, and next thing you know you can even Quote Paul saying "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." And then you are done meat imo
     
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