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Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by justbyfaith, Sep 9, 2018.

  1. bbyrd009

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    yes, that would be a lengthy way to restate choice 1 i guess
     
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    yes, so you skipped post 1 to respond to post 2 first, despite the fact that i made it plain that post 1 was really my response, is another way to put that. Idc, i hope you understand, but maybe see the point
     
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    lforrest Well-Known Member Staff Member Admin

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    When God looks at the heart and sees fear or love as our motivation, what do you think he prefers?
     
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    I normally respond to latter posts before I respond to the earlier ones; as a kind of self-fulfilled prophecy that the last shall be first and the first shall be last.
     
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    lforrest Well-Known Member Staff Member Admin

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    Exodus 20:25 have a bearing? I'll have to check more on the weekend.
     
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    how is this pertinent forrest, when ppl can so easily just lie about that?
     
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    You can't lie about it to God... He is the judge and the one who matters here.
     
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    but you can deceive other ppl about it forrest, so again i am not getting your point sorry
     
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    if you care about your soul at all, run from ppl who do not consider the law Holy as Scripture does; the minimum standard, and expect that grace requires even more than this at times, since the law is insufficient. Find out how your teacher interprets 1 John 3:9 Lexicon: No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
    and run very fast from anyone telling you that you do not have to keep the law,
    which these will not even be able to demonstrate, certainly not in front of a cop

    also Christ was quite plain here, spoke on the subject more than once, also Paul.
    run from the justifiers and those who add water to wine imo
    not one jot or tittle
    do what they command, even when they do not do it

    find out who will be considered least in the kingdom for yourself
     
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    Those who do not promote legalism promote sin then according to you? Good luck keeping the whole law.
     
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    yes, from one extreme all the way to the other right
    i'm fam with the drill forrest, ty
     
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    You're the one who made the assumption, I confronted it.
     
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    2 Corinthians 5:17 is the reason why we obey the law (refrain from sinning, since sin is the transgression of the law) as Christians.

    The law is written in our hearts and on our minds in the New Covenant (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 8:4, Romans 8:7); and therefore it governs us from the inside. The love of God is shed abroad in our hearts (Romans 5:5); and this is the fulfilling of the law (Romans 13:8-10, Romans 8:4, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6).

    But the law does not have any power any longer to condemn the born again believer from the outside; for he is forgiven of past, present, and future sin (Romans 4:8, Romans 8:38-39, ("things present and things to come"), Hebrews 9:12).
     
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    i did not say keeping the law as best you are able would save you forrest, and i'm pretty sure Christ didn't either, when He plainly told us to keep the law, in several places
     
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    Yes that is an interesting verse and concept. WADR is that not a description of the modern day church and what happens. The preacher man goes up on his raised altar and offers up the sacrifices of the people through praise, either of him or of God, and his faults/sins are exposed.
     
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    Okay, I am now very curious...what does WADR stand for?
     
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    I learned it from one who gropes around here a lot.
     
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    Yeah, but what does it mean?
     
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    Lol..I do too only, just because it is easier to catch the ones I missed in that order. I like your reasoning better ;)
     
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    not one jot or tittle
    everyone's are, yes, but what that means is that you will not be subject to the law of sin and death as they were, iow you will not be stoned to death for your mis-statements here today like they would have been, and i won't be either
     
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