What distinguishes a "Protestant?"

[CoreIssue]

“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Corinthians 2:14) (KJV 1900) Renders good works impossible unless born again.

And you must repent and believe in faith by grace to be born again.

You put born again for everything else. Calvinism.

 

[Dave L]

And you must repent and believe in faith by grace to be born again.

You put born again for everything else. Calvinism.

Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit you must have before you can have faith.

 

[CoreIssue]

Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit you must have before you can have faith.

The Holy Spirit Speaks to everyone, not just the born-again.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is rejecting him and refusing to listen to. How can that happen if he isn't speaking to people?

 

[Dave L]

The Holy Spirit to everyone, not just the born-again.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is rejecting him and refusing to listen to. How can that happen if he isn't speaking to people?

If faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, how can you reject God if you love him?

 

[Josiah]

No - they're ONLY a sin if they're done for the WRONG motive

So.... if I shoot someone died because I think they are better off dead or because I think it will glorify God, then it's not sinful in your morality?

An abortionist who kills the baby because the mother says she's not able to deal with it, to you then that's a wonderful, righteous, God-pleasing thing?

I find your morality ( a radical but strange twist on "situation ethics") to be disgusting.

IMO, sin is anything that is short of God's perfect, holy, loving will... especially as revealed in His Law. Sin literally means "to miss the mark" We are to be as holy as God, as loving as God, as moral as God....and to perfectly, completely fulfill His law, 24/7, in thought, word and deed.... all that is "short" of that is by definition sin.


Now, back to the topic




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[CoreIssue]

If faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, how can you reject God if you love him?

Where does the Bible say the Holy Spirit only speaks to those who love him?

 

[Dave L]

Where does the Bible say the Holy Spirit only speaks to those who love him?

Nobody hears him unless first born again.

“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Corinthians 2:14) (KJV 1900)

 

[CoreIssue]

Nobody hears him unless first born again.

“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Corinthians 2:14) (KJV 1900)

Not receiving means not listening. It does not mean the Holy Spirit is not speaking.

As in Revelation it says Jesus knocks on doors but not everyone opens the door.

 

[Dave L]

Not receiving means not listening. It does not mean the Holy Spirit is not speaking.

As in Revelation it says Jesus knocks on doors but not everyone opens the door.

If the natural man cannot hear, why would the Holy Spirit speak before enabling the person to hear?

Stand at the door and knock is for the Church that shut Jesus out.

 

[CoreIssue]

If the natural man cannot hear, why would the Holy Spirit speak before enabling the person to hear?

Stand at the door and knock is for the Church that shut Jesus out.

The natural man can hear, he just doesn't listen.

It is talking to the church. Jesus is knocking but not everyone opens the door.

 

[Dave L]

The natural man can hear, he just doesn't listen.

It is talking about the church. Jesus is knocking but not everyone opens the door.

Natural man is dead in trespasses and sins. Jesus knocks at the doors of churches that shut him out.

 

[CoreIssue]

Natural man is dead in trespasses and sins. Jesus knocks at the doors of churches that shut him out.

Everyone is dead spiritually until they hear and repent unless they are still
innocent.

That does not mean they cannot hear.

 

[Dave L]

Everyone is dead spiritually until they hear and repent unless they are still
innocent.

That does not mean they cannot hear.

Paul says it's foolishness to the natural man.

 

[CoreIssue]

Paul says it's foolishness to the natural man.

Was it foolish to you as a natural man? Sure wasn't to me.

 

[Dave L]

Was it foolish to you as a natural man? Sure wasn't to me.

You had to first be born again or you would not have believes in any true sense. Many believe by sight but it's a false belief that leads nowhere good.

 

[Dave L]

Everyone is dead spiritually until they hear and repent unless they are still
innocent.

That does not mean they cannot hear.

dead guys don't hear.

 

[CoreIssue]

You had to first be born again or you would not have believes in any true sense. Many believe by sight but it's a false belief that leads nowhere good.

You cannot defend that with the Bible. This ties into the questions asked of you on the other topic that you are dodging.

 

[Dave L]

You cannot defend that with the Bible. This ties into the questions asked of you on the other topic that you are dodging.

“Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Corinthians 2:13–14) (KJV 1900)

“For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:5–9) (KJV 1900)

 

[CoreIssue]

“Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Corinthians 2:13–14) (KJV 1900)

“For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:5–9) (KJV 1900)

You need to wake up to reality.

 

[BreadOfLife]

“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Corinthians 2:14) (KJV 1900) Renders good works impossible unless born again.

It's strange how you seem to be able to READ - but you don't seem to be able to GRASP.

People who eat and sleep and breathe are NOT going "evil" because they are not glorifying God - and Scripture isn't making that claim. The more you cherry-pick verses - the more ignorant you show yourself to be . . .