What does an enemy of the state look like?

[brakelite]

I would like to address the initial question without doing the repub. vs. dem thing and entering an area of politics that fomr here, I am only partially aware of, am not an eye witness to, and reliant on what could very well amount to fake news (from both sides) to base any judgement on.
So, to the question, what constitutes an enemy of the state? What I am familiar with are the basic tenets and concepts that laid the foundation for American society. Freedom of religion...freedom of conscience...freedom from despotism...freedom from either civil or religious tyranny. To that end the founding fathers of the USA wrote the constitution, and the bill of rights. So to my mind, any one, or any organisation, that sets itself in opposition to either of those most excellent documents, is an enemy to the state, for by doing so they are setting themselves as being a leadership alternative to what is established within those documents, and the ethical framework that undergirded the thinking and mindset that created them. Any enemy of the state is thus one who is declaring themselves as proposing a different mindset...one that must ultimately embrace and advocate some form of dictatorship which inevitably spirals downward into tyranny.
The most commonly recognisable enemy under such criteria is of course Islam. Recognisable because they openly declare this and are at least honest about their intentions. However there are others, both individuals and organisations, who are not so open...or at least not today. One in particular has declared their intentions in the past, but today hide their ambitious intentions to govern the US behind other concerns common to most citizens. I am a conspiracy theorist. Because I read history. I have seen conspirators attempt the same in history with other nations, with and without success, and I see the same signs taking place in the US as we converse today. Unfortunately, I see Islam as the lesser of two evils that threaten your state...the greater remains unrecognised and gaining far greater power today, even under Trump's administration, then ever before in American history. So sad that so few see it.

 

[Enoch111]

Another thing he should have done is let everyone go from the previous administration

Absolutely. The first order of business should have been to CLEAN HOUSE THOROUGHLY. And yet he made mistake after mistake in the people he appointed to various positions, then had to fire them, while the Obama *old guard* consolidated their position and the Deep State went on the offensive. Very sad.

 

[Enoch111]

To that end the founding fathers of the USA wrote the constitution, and the bill of rights. So to my mind, any one, or any organisation, that sets itself in opposition to either of those most excellent documents, is an enemy to the state

You have hit the nail on the head. Ever since Obama took office Democrats have been vigorously attacking "Freedom of religion...freedom of conscience...freedom from despotism...freedom from either civil or religious tyranny." And Hillary Clinton would have continued that trend, as we can see from her surrogate Pelosi. What is truly amazing is that Americans can actually vote for and support these evildoers.

BTW Australia, Canada, and the Western world in general are all on the same so-called *progressive* track and committing national suicide, while the Islamists roll on the floor laughing.

 

[brakelite]

You have hit the nail on the head. Ever since Obama took office Democrats have been vigorously attacking "Freedom of religion...freedom of conscience...freedom from despotism...freedom from either civil or religious tyranny." And Hillary Clinton would have continued that trend, as we can see from her surrogate Pelosi. What is truly amazing is that Americans can actually vote for and support these evildoers.

BTW Australia, Canada, and the Western world in general are all on the same so-called *progressive* track and committing national suicide, while the Islamists roll on the floor laughing.

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Hahahaha. Well, while I see and appreciate your perspective, and not entirely on disagreement, I had some one else in mind as the"greater of two evils". But I think you know that right?

 

[friend of]

I think the issue is that most people really arent aware of just how corrupt the Washington swamp actually is.

 

[Hidden In Him]

It is truly amazing how the Leftists were able to excuse traitor Obama no matter what evil he did, but they have unrelentingly gone after Trump because he did not put them behind bars.

And this is the real distinguishing mark of who is serving darkness and who is serving light. I don't hold it against Aspen not to understand American politics because he is not here to observe the U.S. media in action. But the surest way to know what side a politician is on is to observe the way the controlled U.S. media reports on them. Obama was virtually worshipped as a god, 24/7 non-stop, every day, regardless of the situation, and without fail. Those who didn't live here don't realize it was literally borderline apotheosis, with throngs of star-eyed, mindless young people positioned behind him with the cameras running; youths who adored his every word and appeared like they were fainting over themselves just to be in his presence. This was the norm, EVERY DAY, ALL DAY, FOR EIGHT YEARS.

What about Trump? They depict him the EXACT OPPOSITE, and with even greater consistency. Absolutely every single breath the man takes, every word he speaks (literally) is depicted as an act of pure evil, 24/7 non-stop, every day, regardless of the situation, and without fail, and absolutely everything he says and does will be depicted as evil from now until he is finally out of office and for decades more into the future, not on the actual merits of anything he has done or said but simply due to the fact that he is not a New World Order globalist, and not serving the god of this world like the Washington insiders do.

@Apsen: No offense to you brother, as you know I mean you no harm. But you are naive about American politics.

Blessings in Christ.

 

[Hidden In Him]

And this is the real distinguishing mark of who is serving darkness and who is serving light. I don't hold it against Aspen not to understand American politics because he is not here to observe the U.S. media in action.

@aspen. And correction. I thought you were an Aussie for some reason but you're an American, LoL.

@Apsen: No offense to you brother, as you know I mean you no harm. But you are naive about American politics.

This still holds, nonetheless (which makes it worse. You're without excuse... you dingbat).

 

[Enoch111]

@Apsen: No offense to you brother, as you know I mean you no harm. But you are naive about American politics.

One would think that any normal, sane person would see the INSANITY of the Left Liberals and Socialist Extremists and point it out.

Anyhow what you have said is perfectly true and extremely disturbing. But it does show the handiwork of Satan working against America and its people.

 

[Hidden In Him]

One would think that any normal, sane person would see the INSANITY of the Left Liberals and Socialist Extremists and point it out.

I honestly don't get it either, but it may have to do with people being forced to take sides on issues before really analyzing everything over for themselves. There was I time when I knew very little about US politics, and could be easily swayed by the media, or by the consensus opinion of others. In fact, I really didn't see anything all that clearly until after I became a Christian, and the Spirit of God revealed to me what was really going on behind the scenes.

But you're right. Things are so obvious now that I don't know how absolutely everyone can't see it. Sort of brings to mind the verse about Satan blinding the minds of men so they cannot see the truth.

 

[Stranger]

To determine what an enemy of the state looks like, it all depends on the character of the State at that time. Because there is such a divide in the country now, and the political parties have become enemies, then whatever political party is in power, the other is an enemy of that state.

So, right now the democrats, liberals, leftists, atheists, are enemies to the state. Once the democrats get power back, the republicans and conservatives, and Christians will be the enemies of the state.

satan is the god of this world. And you are seeing his logic, his thinking, played out. It is perverted, twisted, and malignant, along with cunning.

Stranger

 

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[Trekson]

Manafort comes to mind.....so does Trump

But what about his diehard followers who seem to delight in his reckless disregard for laws and cultural norms?

An enemy of the state is a person who desires the end of the state - even those who have an ‘ends justify the mean’ moral code - wanting the end of America to bring about the return of Christ and the end of the world. Christian Zionism is attempting to do God’s work for him - bringing about prophecy, destroying the environment, electing a despot who crashes through all checks and balances and colludes with our enemies, and fear mongering - creating enemies and scapegoating.

Ismael would agree.

I am not a conspiracy theorist - this is happening before our eyes! I am also not a Nationalist - but I am patriotic. We are placing our country in danger and our environment in danger because we think we can control God’s timing.

This is frightening because we are going to destroy western culture and still be waiting for Christ’s return.

When Clinton was president, Al Gore and Hillary went to Brazil for some kind of climate conference, this was shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing, Ms. Clinton was asked that same question. Her reply: "Christians who believe the prophecies in the bible are true!"

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Trump and I were in the same business, though mine was a lot smaller an operation. My biggest project was only five million. One thing I will say is that although I would never have worked for him, he did NOT stiff the people who worked for him. He gave contracts out that were almost impossible to make much money off of. But, many people jumped at the chance because they thought they could deliver less than the contracts called for, and he wouldn't catch them. But, he usually did, and the non-delivery and non-compliance clauses written into the contracts were so binding that they ended up shooting themselves in their own leg.

There are plenty of idiots contractors like that out there nowadays playing the game, I have said to such people that it's not a game and they say yes it is, yes to a con-artist it is for sure and all degenerates work that way as, that's the only way that a fool can run a business, that's by playing cunning games. it's the same with Governments that are corrupt, one can see there works are 3rd rate and a joke to anyone who understands such things. They only drive everything into the ground and have no true morals of worth.
I have seen it many a time They expect everyone else to carry them through their darn fool incompetence and the thing is they do not care who they are walking over as they just see such as a win. much like that low life moronic grub on TV who says Winning all he time, it's a casino mentality and I seen that moron came out bagging Trump full on. such fools who are corrupted by Satan's works.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I would like to address the initial question without doing the repub. vs. dem thing and entering an area of politics that fomr here, I am only partially aware of, am not an eye witness to, and reliant on what could very well amount to fake news (from both sides) to base any judgement on.
So, to the question, what constitutes an enemy of the state? What I am familiar with are the basic tenets and concepts that laid the foundation for American society. Freedom of religion...freedom of conscience...freedom from despotism...freedom from either civil or religious tyranny. To that end the founding fathers of the USA wrote the constitution, and the bill of rights. So to my mind, any one, or any organisation, that sets itself in opposition to either of those most excellent documents, is an enemy to the state, for by doing so they are setting themselves as being a leadership alternative to what is established within those documents, and the ethical framework that undergirded the thinking and mindset that created them. Any enemy of the state is thus one who is declaring themselves as proposing a different mindset...one that must ultimately embrace and advocate some form of dictatorship which inevitably spirals downward into tyranny.
The most commonly recognisable enemy under such criteria is of course Islam. Recognisable because they openly declare this and are at least honest about their intentions. However there are others, both individuals and organisations, who are not so open...or at least not today. One in particular has declared their intentions in the past, but today hide their ambitious intentions to govern the US behind other concerns common to most citizens. I am a conspiracy theorist. Because I read history. I have seen conspirators attempt the same in history with other nations, with and without success, and I see the same signs taking place in the US as we converse today. Unfortunately, I see Islam as the lesser of two evils that threaten your state...the greater remains unrecognised and gaining far greater power today, even under Trump's administration, then ever before in American history. So sad that so few see it.

All people who are Anti-Christ are traitors to the State and a curse to God and the People.
All Anti-Christ do is not worthy and such nonsense will be seen for what it truly is and burnt up.
Socialism is like a Poison or a Cancer that destroys people both body and soul and then that only leads to more madness like Nazism and Communism, not to mention that with such things you can see there works are that of death, they are of their Father of lies and were murders from the beginning.
Fact is that I have talked to such type of people in depth and not one of them ever had Grace, they can not fathom he concept because they are only morons.

 

[Willie T]

There are plenty of idiots contractors like that out there nowadays playing the game, I have said to such people that it's not a game and they say yes it is, yes to a con-artist it is for sure and all degenerates work that way as, that's the only way that a fool can run a business, that's by playing cunning games. it's the same with Governments that are corrupt, one can see there works are 3rd rate and a joke to anyone who understands such things. They only drive everything into the ground and have no true morals of worth.
I have seen it many a time They expect everyone else to carry them through their darn fool incompetence and the thing is they do not care who they are walking over as they just see such as a win. much like that low life moronic grub on TV who says Winning all he time, it's a casino mentality and I seen that moron came out bagging Trump full on. such fools who are corrupted by Satan's works.

I will never forget one sub who tried to get by with installing hundreds of windows in a high-rise that were inferior to the ones Trump had specified. Trump caught him, and because of Trump's ironclad contract, the sub didn't get paid at all, and I think the courts upheld that he had to also pay for the removal of the cheaper windows... and even some more costs on top of that.

 

[brakelite]

Mmmmm. I am reminded of Stalin saying the same sort of thing to those under threat from Hitler in Europe...yet he and Churchill and Roosevelt were all members of the same club.

 

[Copperhead]

To answer the thread question.... the Democrat Party. Now don't construe that with a love for Republicans, hardly. They have a lot of baggage also. But the Democrats....

1) threw under the bus 58,000 killed Americans, over 300,000 wounded Americans, and 21 million Vietnamese. I lived thru it and watched it happen. The ultimate sell out. It was because of Democrats that Vietnam failed.

2) The Democrats are the primary promoters of infanticide. Via abortion, there has been more children killed in the U.S. than Hitler, Stalin, and Mao combined. And now they are promoting the killing of newly born children. Proof that the Democrat Party is modern day Baal. When the Arch of Palmyra replica (the arch of the Temple of Baal in Lebanon) was brought to Washington D.C. during the Kavenaugh hearings, Democrats couldn't line up fast enough to get their picture taken with it.

3) The have given aid and comfort to the enemy numerous times. Sen Harry Reid and then Speaker Pelosi stated numerous times publicly that the "surge" in Iraq would fail. While the troops were fighting some of the most intense battles of the war.

I cannot and will not ever vote or support any person who wants to hitch their wagon to the Democrat Party mule. From President down to dog catcher.

And with the professing Socialists taking over the party, it will get even worse.

I have voted Republican, but I have also voted for candidates from Libertarian Party, Constitution Party, Alaska Independence Party, and Iowa Party. But never, never, never a Democrat!

 

[Phoneman777]

Manafort comes to mind.....so does Trump

But what about his diehard followers who seem to delight in his reckless disregard for laws and cultural norms?

An enemy of the state is a person who desires the end of the state - even those who have an ‘ends justify the mean’ moral code - wanting the end of America to bring about the return of Christ and the end of the world. Christian Zionism is attempting to do God’s work for him - bringing about prophecy, destroying the environment, electing a despot who crashes through all checks and balances and colludes with our enemies, and fear mongering - creating enemies and scapegoating.

Ismael would agree.

I am not a conspiracy theorist - this is happening before our eyes! I am also not a Nationalist - but I am patriotic. We are placing our country in danger and our environment in danger because we think we can control God’s timing.

This is frightening because we are going to destroy western culture and still be waiting for Christ’s return.

When you say "electing a despot who crashes through all checks and balances", we can only assume you're referring to ex-Muslim in Chief Barry O, right?

He rammed Obamacare down our throats by executive order.

He rammed DACA down our throats by executive order.

He rammed gay marriage rights down our throats by executive order.

He gave our Iranian enemies - the largest state sponsor of terrorism - 150 BILLION of U.S. taxpayer funded cash in a clandestine midnight cash drop

His Justice Dept. was behind "fast and furious" gun running to Mexico - an agent was killed by one of them

He stacked U.S. alphabet agencies with despicable thugs like those who took that fake fake fake Hillary-funded Russian dossier they claimed was "verified" to the FISA court to obtain surveillance warrants on American citizens in the hopes of derailing the Trump candidacy.

He was caught red handed on a hot mic/camera colluding with Russian ambassador Dmitri Medvedev just before his second term: "...after my election, I'll have more flexibility".

 

[Phoneman777]

Manafort comes to mind.....so does Trump

But what about his diehard followers who seem to delight in his reckless disregard for laws and cultural norms?

An enemy of the state is a person who desires the end of the state - even those who have an ‘ends justify the mean’ moral code - wanting the end of America to bring about the return of Christ and the end of the world. Christian Zionism is attempting to do God’s work for him - bringing about prophecy, destroying the environment, electing a despot who crashes through all checks and balances and colludes with our enemies, and fear mongering - creating enemies and scapegoating.

Ismael would agree.

I am not a conspiracy theorist - this is happening before our eyes! I am also not a Nationalist - but I am patriotic. We are placing our country in danger and our environment in danger because we think we can control God’s timing.

This is frightening because we are going to destroy western culture and still be waiting for Christ’s return.

Please don't tell us you actually think "Climate Change" is a thing!!!

 

[Phoneman777]

So anything goes with you guys as long as conservative judges are put in place....that is insane.

And claiming that Obama is pure evil.....wow

Obama is pro-gay. God says men who seek sexual gratification in the smelly, unsanitary anus of another man are an "abomination".

Obama is pro-socialism (stealing from "haves" and redistributing to "have nots" by threat of the barrel of a state gun). God says "Thou shalt not steal".

Obama is pro-Muslim (Koran denies Allah has a son). God says anyone who denies that Jesus is the Son of God is not of Him.

Obama hates white men and women and blames them for the horrible decisions minorities make everyday which further entrap them in their poverty stricken culture of destruction. God teaches that we are all one in Christ Jesus.

Obama is an evolutionist and Darwin's "bible" has the racist subtitle "The Preservation of the Favored Races in the Struggle for Life". God says man is created in God's own image.

Obama says the State should have ultimate control of the raising of children. God says it is the responsibility of the parents to "train up a child the way he should go".

Please put down the remote, step away from the Fake News, and google Breitbart, Ben Shapiro, Mark Dice...ANYTHING but the leftist communist propaganda you've been mainlining.