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What does the bible say happens when you die​

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As the physical body IS DYING, the Living soul DEPARTS the physical body.
The Life (Blood) of the physical body IS DEAD.
The flesh, ears, eyes, nose, mouth/tongue, begins Rotting, Decaying.
The Life (Gods Breath) of the soul CONTINUES Living.
The touch, hearing, seeing, smelling, speaking (via the souls Life) continues.

A “saved” soul departed out of a dying body, is escorted to Heaven.
In Heaven that Living soul, feels touch, hears, sees, smells, speaks.
In Heaven that Living soul, experiences, feeling, hearing, seeing, smelling, speaking....all that is beautiful, pleasant, good, wholesome, Godly.
This Living soul IS WITH the presence of God.

An “unsaved” soul departed out of a dying body, is sent to Hell.
In Hell that Living soul, feels touch, hears, sees, smells, speaks.
In Hell that Living soul, experiences, feeling, hearing, seeing, smelling, speaking....all that is ugly, unpleasant, not good, not wholesome, Not Godly.
This Living soul IS WITHOUT the presence of God.

All departed Saved and Unsaved Living souls, remain in their respective “habitats” and the “conditions thereof”....each “WAITING”.... for and until Gods Judge (Christ Jesus) Judgement Day shall commence. (Judgement and Sentencing According TO Gods Book(S) of Evidence.)

All “bodies” shall be “risen up”...
BLOOD life does NOT return to body’s.
Living souls, respectively RETURN to their own body’s.
All Living souls, IN their respective Body’s Stand Before, and See the Judge (Christ Jesus).

Once ALL See, ALL Believe, ALL bow down Before Christ Jesus (ie Worship).
Once ALL See, All Believe, All Worship...The Book(S) OF Evidence are opened.
1) Gods Book of Life...All names are entered on the day of their Natural Birth.
1a) name either remains or is blotted out.
(name remains IF individual Believed on the day of his Bodily Blood Life’s death;
1b) name blotted out IF individual Did not Believe on the day of his Bodily Blood Life’s death.)
1c) IF name appears in Gods Book of Life...that individual’s living soul remains living forever and his BODY changed, via Gods “baptism” of the Holy Spirit, (ie God giving that body, Gods SEED, and birthing that mans natural spirit to a Born Again spirit)....the individual being glorified to ”body, soul, spirit”...live forever....WITH God.
1d) IF a name is blotted out...(Sentencing day...which follows Judgement) that individual’s SOUL Life (Gods Breath) returns to God, and that individual’s LIFELESS body and soul are destroyed, forgotten, remembered no more.

2) Lambs Book of Life...All names entered into the Lamb’s Book of Life...are entered at the time an individual (while alive in his blood life body), Becomes...
Soul saved...
Spirit quickened (baptized with the Holy Spirit, ie born again of Gods SEED)...
BEFORE that individuals physical bodily death. Effective via that individual accepting Gods Offering to be “crucified WITH Jesus’ body. (Accomplishing ONE required bodily death, in Gods Order and Way, for an individual to Receive “salvation and spirit quickening”.
2a) Salvation is ONLY “given and received After a bodily death”.

3) Gods Book of “works/deeds”...This book of evidence is a record of every mans “works/deeds”, that man did while alive in his flesh body; to “glorify Gods great name”.
3a) Charity, helping hands, assisting other men...AND giving God the “credit, glory”, for the ‘helpers’ ability to help another, is “expressly” BECAUSE of God.
3b) The “helpers” who DO SO, glorify (give credit to God), are “REWARDED, by God.”
3c) Helpers toward “other men”, WHO receive “REWARDS, money, accolades, trophies, plackets, ribbons, etc. —-> that IS to “their glory”, and IS “their “rewards”....
3d) Helpers who receive “rewards” from men...shall not receive “REWARDS” from God.
3e) These “works/deeds”, neither Save a mans soul, nor Quicken a mans spirit.
3f) In other words “EVERY” man, (soul saved or not, quickened spirit or not, IS rewarded according to the WORKS that individual did to Glorify Gods great name.


Matt 16:
[27] For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Blood IS the Life of a man.
(An earthly terrestrial man.)
By Gods Decree, His Word, ALL earthly terrestrial men ARE subject to Death, SHALL die, WILL die...God requires it.

Gen 9:
[5] And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

Nothing CAN RECEIVE Gods Seed, (of eternal Life), UNLESS the natural life (Blood life ) of a man “FIRST DIES”.

1 Cor 15:
[36] Thou fool, that which thou (God) sowest, is not quickened, except it die:

When a body is physically DEAD...that body, knows, sees, hears, tastes, speaks, feels.....NOTHING.

Glory to God,
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The touch, hearing, seeing, smelling, speaking (via the souls Life) continues.
Psalms 115:17 KJV The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.

Sounds like another contradiction, as the Bible says the opposite to what you are saying.
 

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What does the Bible have to say about this?

Remember the Bible doesn't contradict itself.

Remember God created, ie. formed a man from Dust of the Earth...

Gen 2:7 (a)
[7] And the LORD God form-ED man of the dust of the ground...
Gen 2:7 (b) AND (conjunction, of something thereafter)
and
breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Remember God “created” man AND then “made” ALIVE.

Gen 2:
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Creation is one thing. Man was created with BLOOD, ears, nose, eyes, mouth, tongue, flesh, tissue, organs, bones, systems, etc.

Every man begins as a seed, to which God gives every seed it’s own body, and it’s own “reproducing” seeds, to “reproduce” it’s same KIND of thing...
God still FORMS the body and once the body is Separated from DEPENDENCE on the life source of a placenta, That individual independent form-ED body receives Gods Breath of Life...ie MADE an individual Living man.

The LIFE of that body is it’s BLOOD.
The LIFE of that soul in that body, is Gods BREATH.

A BODY that dies....does not cause the soul to die.
Gods LIFE NEVER dies. All souls Belong to God. The Life in All souls Belong to God.

Living souls DEPART dying bodies.
A man who living soul Departs his body...that body SHALL thereafter DIE.

Living souls “WITH” God, go to be “WITH” God.
Living souls “WITHOUT” God, are sent “AWAY” from the presence of God.

WITH or WITHOUT (God) is established by, through, of the MAN”S flesh bodily Belief.

No contradiction.
 

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Psalms 146:4 KJV His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

Sounds like a contradiction to me.
An earthly man BREATHS air/oxygen to assist in maintaining his bodily Life.
Yes, when the BODY dies, his last breath is expelled, he breaths into his lungs/body no more, and that BODY no longer thinks, knows or feels anything.
His body rots, decays and returns to dust.

A Life in a living soul neither came from dust nor returns to dust.

No contradiction.
 

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Psalms 115:17 KJV The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.

Sounds like another contradiction, as the Bible says the opposite to what you are saying.
The dead is dead body’s. Correct. Dead body’s do not praise the LORD. Correct Dead body’s are in silence...they speak, hear, see, feel, Nothing.

No contradiction.
 

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An earthly man BREATHS air/oxygen to assist in maintaining his bodily Life.
Yes, when the BODY dies, his last breath is expelled, he breaths into his lungs/body no more, and that BODY no longer thinks, knows or feels anything.
His body rots, decays and returns to dust.

A Life in a living soul neither came from dust nor returns to dust.

No contradiction.
No contradiction? The Bible says that his thoughts perish at death. How do you get his thoughts continuing on after that?
 

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No contradiction? The Bible says that his thoughts perish at death. How do you get his thoughts continuing on after that?

* An Earthly man IS a form-ED body.
* An Earthly man HAS a soul.

* Life OF a mans body is BLOOD. Man CAN KILL a mans body.
* Life OF a mans soul is Gods BREATH. Man can NOT KILL a mans soul.

* Living Body’s of Earthly men are dust, Are Mortal, Shall die, Know nothing WHEN they die, Shall return to dust.
* The FLESH rots, the EARS rot, the EYES rot, the NOSE rots, the TONGUE rots, The THOUGHTS of the MIND ... PERISH...return to Dust of the Earth.

* Living Soul’s in a man’s body, remain in a man’s body, AS LONG AS THE BODY IS Alive.
* When the Body IS DYING, the Living soul, DEPARTS OUT of the Dying Body.
* The Living soul WITH Gods Breath, Continues Living...
* The FEELING, of the touch of the Flesh, the HEARING, the SEEING, the SMELLING, the SPEECH, the THOUGHTS of the HEART....REMAIN LIVING.
* A SAVED soul....remains LIVING and “WITH” God...IN Heaven.
* An UNSAVED soul...remains LIVING and “SEPARATED/WITHOUT” God...IN Hell.

Body’s......AND souls......Are Two Different THINGS.

BLOOD LIFE OF a body and DEATH OF BODY is “one thing”
SOUL LIFE (Gods BREATH) IN a body and SOUL LIFE (Gods Breath) OUTSIDE OF a Body is “another thing”.

LIFE OF a body (BLOOD) SHALL DIE. Body, thus is Dead, knows nothing.
LIFE IN and OF a soul (Gods BREATH) NEVER DIES.
LIFE IN and OF a soul (can 4-ever REMAIN IN THAT SOUL...called SAVED).
LIFE IN and OF a soul (can LEAVE that soul RETURN TO GOD...called an UNSAVED soul.)
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THAT has “NOT YET OCCURRED”...
ALL Living souls....IN Living Body’s or Departed OUT of Dead Body’s...
ARE ALL “still” ALIVE LIVING SOULS!
ALL “still” HAVE Gods BREATH “IN” them.
ALL “can still”....Feel Touch, Hear, See, Speak, Smell.

Gods LIFE Shall Remain IN that soul FOREVER....IF that soul IS SAVED.
Gods LIFE Shall Depart FROM that soul FOREVER...IF that soul is NOT SAVED.
Gods LIFE Remaining IN or DEPARTING OUT of a soul.....OCCURS...
AFTER JUDGEMENT and SENTENCING.

No contradiction. Knowledge and Conclusion? Scriptural Teaching.

Dead Bodies KNOW nothing, Feel, See, Hear, Smell, Speak...nothing.
ALL LIVING SOULS (in or out of the body) ARE Presently Living, (IN Heaven WITH God or IN Hell WITHOUT God...)
and KNOW thoughts, Feel Touch, See, Hear, Smell, Speak....

Glory to God,
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Death is exactly as experienced - the thought, and the believing of (or not) the thought.
A belief.

To relinquish the belief is to see the actuality, that you are the very eternal life pointed to. More so, that this is absolute. Meaning this is what is actual and true, regardless of any arising thoughts.
 

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I've confirmed no such ridiculous thing. On the contrary, I've already shown you that the comma goes AFTER the word "today", which harmonizes the verse with the rest of Scripture, but you and the rest of your deluded Immortal Soul podnas insist on putting the comma BEFORE "today" which causes total confusion.

The KJV translators get a pass due to over 1,000 years of Catholicism's lies. Protestantism separated 500 years ago, so no such pass for you.

Bring 'em on.

CONTEXT. Time after time, you all deviate from context and is why you end up in compounded delusion. The CONTEXT makes "spirits in prison" refer to the ANTEDILUVIANS who were trapped in the "prison house of sin" to whom the Spirit of Jesus preached 120 years before the "flood came and took them all away".
CONTEXT.

Yes, the Gospel was preached to them that are dead.
I gave my grandparents Christmas gifts. They died years later.
I once gave gifts to them that are dead.


When is comes Scripture saying the dead don't know, see, speak, praise God, interact with the living, etc., can you see where my interpretation is Biblically harmonious while yours is anything but?

You can't base a doctrine on an uninterpreted parable, especially the Rich Man and Lazarus passage which is so clearly full of parabolic symbolism.

That the "man" was Paul, we agree.

Now, if the great apostle Paul, a man who was so knowledgeable in the truth, full of the Holy Ghost beyond measure, blessed with such an abundance of revelation and experiences that he had to receive a thorn in the flesh to keep him humble,...IF HE DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN THE BODY OR OUT OF THE BODY, WHO ARE YOU OR I TO SAY IT WAS AN "OUT OF THE BODY SPIRIT" EXPERIENCE?

Of course the thief's spirit went to heaven when he died, as ALL spirits return to God when the creature dies, be it a saint, sinner, or beast. Good gravy, man, this is right there in Scripture! God sends forth His spirit and creatures come to life, He gathers it up back to Himself and they drop DEAD.

The thief - a soul which came into existence at the union of God's Breath of Life and his Body - did not go to heaven when he died. His spirit aka breath of life returned to God, his body to the earth, and thus the thief ceased to exist.
Too late, you've already shown you don't believe what Jesus said to the malefactor...

Luke 23:43
43 And Jesus said to him: "Amen I say to thee, this day thou shalt be with Me in paradise."
Douay-Rheims (published in 1582)

Luke 23:43
43 And He said unto him, "Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with Me in Paradise."
ASV (published in 1901)

Luke 23:43
43 And He said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”
ESV (published 2001)

Luke 23:43
43 And Jesus said to him, "Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."
NKJV (published 1982)

Luke 23:43
43 And He said to him,
“I tell you, you will be in Paradise with Me today!”
Goodspeed (published 1931)

Luke 23:43

43 And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in paradise."
The Lexham English Bible, Fourth Edition (published 2010)

Luke 23:43
43 And Jesus said to him, "Verily I say to thee, This day shalt thou be with Me in paradise."
Noah Webster Bible (published in 1833)

Luke 23:43
43 "I tell you in solemn truth," replied Jesus, "that this very day you shall be with Me in Paradise."
Weymouth (published 1903)
 
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Too late, you've already shown you don't believe what Jesus said to the malefactor...

Luke 23:43
43 And Jesus said to him: "Amen I say to thee, this day thou shalt be with Me in paradise."
Douay-Rheims (published in 1582)

Luke 23:43
43 And He said unto him, "Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with Me in Paradise."
ASV (published in 1901)

Luke 23:43
43 And He said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”
ESV (published 2001)

Luke 23:43
43 And Jesus said to him, "Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."
NKJV (published 1982)

Luke 23:43
43 And He said to him,
“I tell you, you will be in Paradise with Me today!”
Goodspeed (published 1931)

Luke 23:43

43 And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in paradise."
The Lexham English Bible, Fourth Edition (published 2010)

Luke 23:43
43 And Jesus said to him, "Verily I say to thee, This day shalt thou be with Me in paradise."
Noah Webster Bible (published in 1833)

Luke 23:43
43 "I tell you in solemn truth," replied Jesus, "that this very day you shall be with Me in Paradise."
Weymouth (published 1903)
Wait...you claim to preach truth while basing your theology on uninspired punctuation, but somehow my theology which is based solely on God's inspired Word is wrong?
 

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Wait...you claim to preach truth while basing your theology on uninspired punctuation, but somehow my theology which is based solely on God's inspired Word is wrong?
Still going to use that comma fake excuse? I showed you MANY Bible translations of that verse which verifies exactly what I said, that Jesus told the malefactor he would be with Him THAT VERY DAY in Paradise.
 

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Absent the body, present with the Lord.
That is not what Paul said or meant, people take it out of context. These Corinthian people who had converted to Christianity were wondering about their dead loved ones who had come to Christ but passed on. So, Paul trying to reassure them was telling them, hey its OK to die, to be absent from this body means we will be with the Lord, but he isn't saying as soon as they die they will go to be with the Lord, else he would not have taught them this in his first epistle unto them, in 1 Cor. 15, that at the last trump, the Dead in Christ would rise first.....really at the same time, a blink of an eye van not be differentiated, this is simply Paul trying to reassure them their loved ones would not be left in the grave.....then those of us who are alive at that time will be changed........simply means we die and go to heaven as spirit men, like those raised from the grave, we know flesh and blood can not enter heaven.....so, if the Dead are raised and go to be with the Lord at the very end, how do they go straight to heaven? They/we don't, we go to a resting place, like Jesus spoke of, Paradise, Jesus did not go to Heaven that very day, he and the thief went to Paradise, where he preached to those souls at rest.

When we see loved ones in dreams in Heaven or people visit heaven and are sent back in near death experiences, like John, they are seeing future events, not real time events.
 

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The Bible says that a person's thoughts PERISH when they die. The Bible clearly doesn't say that a person's thoughts continue on in any form after death.

No, you error. The scripture says the DEAD know not anything.

Ecc 9:
[5] For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

A person is a Living individual human being consisting of body and soul.
Body’s die, know not anything.
Soul’s continue living.

A Body that has Died is no longer called a person.
Dead Body’s are called the Deceased.

Learn the truth.

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Still going to use that comma fake excuse? I showed you MANY Bible translations of that verse which verifies exactly what I said, that Jesus told the malefactor he would be with Him THAT VERY DAY in Paradise.
I didn't read the translations because the commas are as uninspired in them as they are in my KJV.

See, you can't face the truth that if you remove the comma, the verse can EASILY be read in the way I'm showing you and as it should be, that's why you have to rely on uninspired commas.
 

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The Bible doesn't about a conscious mind of any sort living on after the body dies.

The living body consists of both soul and spirit, however, a dead body only consists of a dead soul, for as the Bible says in Revelation 16:3 KJV, "And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea."
 

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That is what I said. The DEAD know not anything as their thoughts have also PERISHED, as the Bible has clearly stated.

You said PERSON.

Body’s of Persons DIES, and KNOWS NOT ANYTHING THING.
Souls of a Dead Body continues to LIVE and departs the Dead Body, and Continues to KNOW.

Luke 16:
[19] There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
[20] And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
[21] And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
[22] And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
[23] And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

The rich mans BODY DIED and was BURIED.
The rich mans SOUL in Hell....
Saw....



[24] And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

The rich mans SOUL Spoke...Felt Heat...Desires a Cool drink.

[25] But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

Abraham’s SOUL Spoke to the rich man’s SOUL.
The rich man Heard Abraham’s SOUL Speak.


[26] And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
[27] Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
[28] For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
[29] Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
[30] And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
[31] And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

As Scripture teaches....AS I said...BODY’S DIE and KNOW NOT ANYTHING.
Living SOULS Depart a DEAD BODY and LIVING SOULS continue LIVING...
Seeing, Speaking, Tasting, Feeling, Smelling....

God Created BODYS from DUST.
God Made the SENSES OF THE BODY “ALIVE”....via A SOUL and Gods LIFE...
Body’s ARE mortal AND ARE sentenced TO DIE ONCE.
NO LIFE REMAINS “IN” a DEAD BODY....
Not the body’s LIFE “flowing BLOOD”.
Not Gods Breath in a SOUL.
Not Gods Spirit in a “born again man”.

To DATE NO LIVING SOULS have been “Sentenced”.
To DATE ALL SOULS ... ARE STILL LIVING:
In Alive Body’s...In Heaven...or In Hell.
AND YES...Living souls IN Alive Body’s ,or Living souls Departed out of Body’s Dead Body’s...See, Hear, Speak, Feel, Smell.


Glory to God,
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