What if I don’t want eternal life?

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Uh no, they believe what they are told to believe by the home office resulting in scripture twisting with the help of watchtower demons :funlaugh2
Can I quote your signature back to you….?

“You have a right to your opinion as do I . . . . If you don't like what I post, please don't read my posts
and move on to read some other post. When the future gets here, we'll all see where everyone lands!”


Be careful how hard you laugh. (1 Cor 10:12) In a world ruled by the devil, nothing is as it appears to be.
 

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It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.


I think I can understand how you feel. You don’t seem to hold much hope for the beauty of Heaven—perhaps this world has disappointed you so deeply, hurt you so much, that you believe even the Kingdom of Heaven can’t be any better.
 

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It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.

Oof. I remember feeling this way. It is painful! But how beautifully it blossoms into appreciation when your eyes are opened to reality.

A seat belt confines, but I welcome it. It is a safeguard and a protective measure. You are indeed confined, but if you can appreciate having an eternal nature, you can see why this is such a wonderful thing.

First off, there is no hell fire to fear. That lie was meant to sour the everlasting and so it has, but only until you hear the truth! After that, the lies fall away to reveal something so marvelous, you would relive the pain again and again and again for another chance to see it briefly.

You are here and searching. Don't give up! Seek His voice! You have everything you need to find the pearl of great price because truth is your compass.
 

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FAQ: Seeing as how people are to exist in Hell forever, doesn't that mean
they have eternal life?


REPLY: No, if they had eternal life; they wouldn't be in Hell because it's a
benefit reserved for folks unified with Christ.

John 3:16 . . For God so loved the world that He gave His only son, so that
everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

John 5:24 . . I assure you, those who heed my message, and believe in
God who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their
sins, but they have already transferred from death into life.


FAQ: If so that people in Hell don't have eternal life, then how can it be
possible their conscious suffering is perpetual?


REPLY: The afterlife is something about which I understand very little.

However, it's readily seen from Isaiah 14:4-20 and Luke 16:19-31 that folks
on the other side are conscious, sentient, and recognizable; plus, they
exhibit human characteristics, e.g. Abraham has a bosom, Lazarus has a
finger, and the rich man has eyes and a tongue. In addition; both the rich
man and Abraham are capable of speech; and the rich man has his
memories. Exactly how that is; I don't really know. Their world over there is
obviously very different than my world over here.
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Please explain how a God of mercy and love would condemn ANY person to an interminable existence of torment.
Are you referring to God Who drowned everyone on Earth but 8, "making them an example"?
 

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Are you saying that 1 John 5:11-13 Is a doctrine of demons?
Listen to verse 12 and you will hear what the born again believer HAS and what the unsaved disbeliever HAS NOT.
No, I'm saying OSAS is.
 

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It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.
The reality is it's not really about you or me. The One Who designed and created everything did it for Himself, for His pleasure.

Anything He formed that has and will exist, exists for His benefit.

I once believed a lie that it was all about the creations and it's survival. Right down to me and my happiness and pleasure. How wrong I was. Soooo wrong. I now know its all about the Creator and I am a mere prop in His play.
 
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Hell is a satanic idea,
Are you saying this forum's Statement of Faith is Satanic?

From the Statement of Faith:

"We recognize that these realities are named as heaven and hell. Eternal separation from God occurs in hell."
 

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It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.
There's no way to know if a mouse doesn't think the same thing while traped in a maze. Is it fair the mouse isn't given a choice? You are being tested. The plan is to overcome this world. Is it fair? Jesus says: "I would rather you be hot or cold, but if you're luke warm, I will spew you out of my mouth". Will you pass? Jesus calls us sheep; I'm not sure that's a compliment. If sheep don't follow their shephard and come to His calling, they will follow themselves over the cliff...true story.

We were not created to be material beings first and foremost, we are created in the image of God, to be spiritual and to fellowship with Him; following your own way will lead you to a futile place. You are in a place you "CHOSE" to be in. You're being tested by the choices you make. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Quit trying to run from it.

Repent, and you've chosen life. Who in their right mind want to choose being a nothing going nowhere. in other words, I came from "Nothing" and I'm going "Nowhere", because I don't believe in God and I don't believe in an after life says the atheist.

If life is not Assessed what value does it have, or what value does love have? If life is not judged, how will the righteous be adjudicated?

We are spiritual primarily and must work out our salvation on this earth. It doesn't cost anything, because Jesus already paid the price. If you turn yourself to Jesus, you will experience the reality of what I've been saying. Don't keep moving farther away, you're being called. Choose Life!
 

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It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.
OK.

Bye bye now.
Though I'm sure you're not here anymore.
 

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There's no way to know if a mouse doesn't think the same thing while traped in a maze. Is it fair the mouse isn't given a choice? You are being tested. The plan is to overcome this world. Is it fair? Jesus says: "I would rather you be hot or cold, but if you're luke warm, I will spew you out of my mouth". Will you pass? Jesus calls us sheep; I'm not sure that's a compliment. If sheep don't follow their shephard and come to His calling, they will follow themselves over the cliff...true story.

We were not created to be material beings first and foremost, we are created in the image of God, to be spiritual and to fellowship with Him; following your own way will lead you to a futile place. You are in a place you "CHOSE" to be in. You're being tested by the choices you make. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Quit trying to run from it.

Repent, and you've chosen life. Who in their right mind want to choose being a nothing going nowhere. in other words, I came from "Nothing" and I'm going "Nowhere", because I don't believe in God and I don't believe in an after life says the atheist.

If life is not Assessed what value does it have, or what value does love have? If life is not judged, how will the righteous be adjudicated?

We are spiritual primarily and must work out our salvation on this earth. It doesn't cost anything, because Jesus already paid the price. If you turn yourself to Jesus, you will experience the reality of what I've been saying. Don't keep moving farther away, you're being called. Choose Life!
JESUS does call HIS own sheep .
And believe ME its a very great compliment .
WE are but dumb creatures in dire and in total need OF HIS GUIDANCE
man left to his own devices is man that is doomed to his own destruction .
May that be a massive encouragment to you .
FOR I CAN DO NOTHING without CHRIST , but FAIL .
BIBLE TIME . OH lets sing it together , BIBLE TIME . cause this generation has been duped badly
by many even in wool .
 
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OK.

Bye bye now.
Though I'm sure you're not here anymore.
and would you like to know what i seen in that persons response to w hom you said OK .
They are holding onto and still love their sin .
Sounds like something only a judgemental monster and hater of all humanity would have said , huh .
BUT NO i double down on it
THEY love their sin . That be the reason they will NOT COME to the light , lest their deeds be exposed .
I sound like a monster to this generation dont i .
BUT this is why folks are prone to believe and to speak as they do .
So am i monster , was i judgemental an d a hater in your eyes .
YET i double down again . THIS person loves something CONTRARY TO GOD
and will NOT LET GO of it . and thus has and is being led down a road of all out conf usion .
Dont ya think its time we tell them the truth . I DO . who so ever hears amen
but if one rejects , IT AINT ME condeming , for TRUTH is not condemnation , sin is , the lie is .
I would like for you to respond to my post . AND if you see error or think you do
HEY show SOME LOVE and correct me .
 
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about that resurrection and eternal life

A Glorious Body​

35 But someone will say, “How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?” 36 Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. 37 And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain—perhaps wheat or some other grain. 38 But God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body.

39 All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind [f]of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.

40 There are also [g]celestial bodies and [h]terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the earth, made[i] of dust; the second Man is [j]the Lord from heaven. 48 As was the [k]man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we[l] shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.

Our Final Victory​

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a [m]mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”

55 “O[n] Death, where is your sting?
O Hades, where is your victory?”
56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.
 

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That trumpet of God will sound and we shall all be changed, all his people, wherever they are on earth and in heaven will be gathered to Him, at the second coming, then we will all be changed and glorified

The Comfort of Christ’s Coming​

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen [b]asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who [c]sleep in Jesus.

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [d]asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

Matthew 24:31
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mark 13

The Coming of the Son of Man​

24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His [h]elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.
 

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1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God.

2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.

3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

4 When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.
 

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It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.
Jesus serves. If you are not ready for the next step in eternity, Jesus will wait for you.
 

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What if I don’t want eternal life?​

Then you don't understand what you don't want!
 

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It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.
Yes I would agree if you were the Designer/Creator of everything. But since you are just a created item, as I am, then it's not all about us but the Creator.
 

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If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will?
I see that God has complete freedom to choose and the ability to determine a thing.

How free an animal, an angel, a humans will or freedom to choose and the ability to determine a thing actually is, who knows.

And what happens when they are opposed to eachother? Who gets their way?

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.

Again, who gets their way?
 
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