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Well simply put the word denomination is defined as a religious division and the problem is that you have well over 100 divisions that teach something other than whats in the word. The bible makes a clear stance against those who seek division rather than unity in christ and in gods word.
Romans 16:17
Galatians 1:8
2nd Thessalonians 3:14
2nd John 3:10
I think the sciptures speak for themselves if anyone is preaching something other than gods word dont have anything to do with them this includes denominational churches that cause division.
Luk 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
Luk 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
Luk 12:53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Sorry gumby
What jesus is speaking of is the members of your own household. Now lets say a was raised by my family to be buddhist and at age say 16 or 17 when i get to be an adult i reject buddhism thats an example of division or where people beleive fly away theories such as rapture and easter that also is a man made lie that causes division. What the verses are saying is always be on the lookout for the children of satan that they could be even in your own family thus causing a division.
Luke 12:49
Luke 12:50
Luke 12:51
Luke 12:52
Luke 12:53
Matthew 10:34
Matthew 10:35
Matthew 10:36
and this goes back to the old testament as well in Micah 7:6. Division among christian against non christian christ came to bring but against beleivers in the body of christ no. Ask yourself this though if christ came to bring division among the body of christ then why would there be need for a body of christ. The answer is that satan and his demons are the one responsable for bringing division within the body of christ. Satan works through mans pride and little false traditions.
What jesus is speaking of is the members of your own household. Now lets say a was raised by my family to be buddhist and at age say 16 or 17 when i get to be an adult i reject buddhism thats an example of division or where people beleive fly away theories such as rapture and easter that also is a man made lie that causes division. What the verses are saying is always be on the lookout for the children of satan that they could be even in your own family thus causing a division.
Luke 12:49
Luke 12:50
Luke 12:51
Luke 12:52
Luke 12:53
Matthew 10:34
Matthew 10:35
Matthew 10:36
and this goes back to the old testament as well in Micah 7:6. Division among christian against non christian christ came to bring but against beleivers in the body of christ no. Ask yourself this though if christ came to bring division among the body of christ then why would there be need for a body of christ. The answer is that satan and his demons are the one responsable for bringing division within the body of christ. Satan works through mans pride and little false traditions.
There is great division in the church right now because men want to teach their doctrine and tradition instead of teaching the Word of God chapter by chapter, line by line. That division is far worse now than ever just like Gods Word said it would be. It is Christian against Christian, they are family, right?
The answer is this. They claim to be christian they claim to be your brother or sister in christ but through there fruit and through what they teach which is traditions of men and empty chatter they reveal themselves as truly children of the devil.
2nd Timothy 3:13 these are supposed christians that are right in the center of our own churches they spread there empty chatter through the worlds lies but they themselves are deceived
2nd Timothy 2:16 avoid empty chatter
2nd Timothy 2:17 there lies continue to spread
2nd Timothy 2:18
Matthew 24:5 many will come in the name of christ some even claiming to be christ but the fact remains by there unsound doctrine they are children of the devil
Matthew 24:24 false christs and false prophets will come and deceive many. Take a look at what your pasors preaching is it from god or from man?
Mark 13:6 there again many supposed christians will come in the name of christ but will deceive many through there rotten fruit that they supposidly call doctrine of all the religious leaders
Luke 21:8 there again many will come in christ name claiming to be christians there going to jump on there rapture wagon and try to rapture you and most likley me out of here before its to late. The bible says clearly dont follow them, ignore them at all costs
on my last note i want to clearly say that people who dont teach direcly from the word and who value there fairytales and traditions over what the word of god says are not christians by any stretch of the imagination. Until they repent and beg for forgivness of god and until they stop teaching lies and worldy chatter they are children of the devil.
There is great division in the church right now because men want to teach their doctrine and tradition instead of teaching the Word of God chapter by chapter, line by line.
Would this also include false teachings like endless torment and annihilation?
There was no division here Brother JerryJohnson..........
Everyone was just giving what they had............... YOU were the first to flag somthing you did not like.......Like Gumby's post??
So, where does this division start Brother JerryJohnson? Would that be with you?
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Mike.
So basically, denominationalism is apostacy?No, they were all the same on one accord.............. through time men split it all up.
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Truth will always bring division. I am here to bring truth!
So basically, denominationalism is apostacy?
That's pretty Good...............!!!! I can't beat that one............
Tallman:
ummm.........Why put it that way????? but after reading over the thread again, it seem to be apparently so........
Jesus Is Lord.
Peter, James and the others will one day see their letters mean an awful lot to many Jews during the time of Jacob's Troubles and the tribulation period.
Those who mix the Lord's teachings to His Jewish disciples exclusive of Paul's are fallen from grace and no longer hold to the Head of the Body, but the mongrel of Jewish and Gentile heresies known today as denominationalism.
Blessed brother Mike, firstly, I want to thank you for all your postings. Much of what you offer turns into quiet time with the Lord in thankgiving and worship. Sometimes I must donn the Berean headgear. In all, you are complex and a wonder and I am grateful to have connected on this site with you.Fivesense:
very interesting post....................
While getting beat up on my defense of a rapture today. I thought of Peter's letter.............. The trying of your faith more precious than Gold. Which ends with the appearing of Jesus............. I had always thought this was to the Jews for the end times. I never felt it was for the Church. Now you bring it up here.............
Could you explain this a little bit more? Are you saying that certain books were not for us at all, or parts of the books.
Be blessed.
Jesus Is Lord.
Glory to God!!!! God bless you!!!
Thank you Fivesense. I don't need lifted up, but you really encouraged me.
I agree all scripture is for our correction.......................
But I have to agree with your first statement. There are things just Written to the Jews, and pertain to them.
During the Last days, Many Jews will see that what they have ignored will save them............. I fully believe that, as they will see themselves in the scripture of the NT, and come to fully know Jesus As Lord.
You and your family be blessed in all you do.
Jesus is Lord.