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  1. Man on Fire

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    Given The Bible, and we are looking to apply and wield The Bible through The Spirit of God to its fullest, what is a Seer? What do I mean by applying and wielding The Bible? Someone doesn't have a doctrine or ideology or false belief or perception they are working to fit the Bible into, they are "doing" and meek before God seeking understanding, and making associations that work. Doing this, and seeking to answer this question, may be uncomfortable. It may hurt. The Truth hurts. Knowledge brings sorrow. Ignorance is bliss?

    Given someone was a Seer, they may be able to see what has been happening in the darkness. He may have some knowledge about what happens behind closed doors. He may have been aware of Satan. He may have been engaging in Spiritual Warfare. He may have been aware of many uncomfortable things that some people would rather have had hidden. God is scary. Being aware of God may bring a fear of God, and some people may have been working against God, and working to hide away God. To more clearly understand what the spiritual is, how it works, and what was going on behind closed doors, someone may end up hated for a time. Christians are to bring people into the truth gently. At times, like an Apocalypse or an opening of the eyes, it may come suddenly in the right context, by the right person, as shepherded by God. Given someone was a Theologian, and had a career being wrong due to ideologies or certain doctrines, and being ego invested in his work, an understanding of The Spiritual and God and the Bible, may hurt. I understand.

    Song: "Dangerous."
    Why?

    Given someone was fulfilling or appeared to fit into the profile given in Hosea 9:7, he may have been a seer, with God's Fatherly love. He may have been given vision into what happens in The Darkness, and was aware of sins and wrong doings. (Not specifically claiming Hosea 9:7, but working towards understanding.)

    At this point, someone may be curious the theological and denominational background and grounding of The Author.

    • I received a calling fall 2013 around the age of 30. (Luke 3:23)

    • I was mentored by Kingdom Watchers. The author there has been right a lot.

    • To Kingdom Watchers, we apply an understanding of Thumos,and having cause and effect spiritual and supernatural experiences with God. Theologically, it does change somethings, or build on Kingdom Watchers.

    • I didn't hate The Catholics. This was important. God has well of Saints or Martyrs, and someone who hated The Catholics may have had stumbling blocks, and needed some false things to be true.

    • The Last Church I have attended regularly would be a Black Primitive Baptist Church in Tennessee in 2014. They are not responsible for this; however, while attending, I received a calling, I found Kingdom Watchers, and I was taught by The Holy Ghost.

    • Since February 2014, I have worked for God full time. Did you know what I was going to do today? I didn't know either other than serving God, and/or being a servant to one's sorrow.
    Given I was going to walk someone through what I believe may have been most important towards growing in Faith in a similar way as I did, I may offer r/Conceptual_Biblestudy. I have tried to stay out of major doctrinal issues between Catholics and Protestants towards other people also growing in Faith, having a relationship with God, and through the Spirit of God, also, working to build The Kingdom of God.

    Illusions and False Perceptions

    One way of seeking understanding of what a Seer is may be working to understand some of the barriers that have kept a regular Christian from being one. Have you have heard someone say "Masturbation will make you go blind?" Spiritual blindness or blindness to God. Young man around age 12-13 was out playing with his friends, and one of his buddies had a playboy, and he starts lusting. He starts looking and thinking about women wrong. His friends have stories about exploits with the "Girls next door" in sin?? That was perceived as cool where someone receives attention and accolades from his friends? That is playing on the ego. Someone may have ended up a "self-centered seeker of pleasure." He became a blind man. How was a man blind? God is love. God's love is fatherly. Someone looking at a woman in lust, wanting to use her outside of marriage, he was blind to God's Fatherly love.

    After reading that, a man who went to public school may need to sit back and reflect. Has he been in competition with other men in terms of dating or relationships? Even if he was married, and he had been in a competition, he may have had a wondering eye. That wondering eye may have had to do with false perceptions and his ego. A lot of that may have been in his subconscious. He didn't think about it a lot, but various perceptions and his ego compelled him forwards, and he was in sin. Moving forward, he may need to drop his ego, not care, be happy with what he has, and seek God's will and plan.

    Looking at this from a different angle, man meets pretty girl. He likes the idea of her. He creates some sort of image in his head of who he would like her to be. He was not interested in her, who she was, what she had done. He was interested in the fantasy image of her. He may have been a blind man who had illusions. These illusions gave him a false perspective. Given she tried to tell him certain things about who she was, and her past, or give him hints about it, it was in one ear or out the other or just didn't compute?

    No false beliefs. No illusions. Jesus looked at someone, and conversed. Jesus was intuitive and perceived through his Spirit.

    Song: I like the Idea of You.

    Someone who was experiencing God, being taught by God's Holy Spirit, who saw into the dark, may have seen a lot of ugly hard to deal with things. Was someone's mom or grandma in sin, doing the wrong things? He may have become aware of that through the Spirit of God. Did someone's parents lie to them a lot? They may have become aware of the Truth. Having Truth, he may have ended up in conflict with his family? Given a lot of people suddenly had vision into the dark, as Shepherded by The Lord Jesus Christ, there may be a fulfillment of Matthew 10:34-37?

    An understanding of what a Seer is, may bring a lot of understanding to The Bible that someone didn't have previously.

    How may someone potentially develop this through the Spirit of God? I don't 100% know. I have not walked anyone else through it in person. I have mostly been in an online ministry offering hard to deal with truths in ways people choose. That is, they chose to read it. They didn't have to. Given I was to highlight what I have seen or been shown as important towards growing more in Faith:

    • They seek God with all their heart and soul and strength and mind.

    • Pray. If it would bring you Glory. God likes Glory.

    • I don't know.

    • I don't care.

    • They live in the moment.

    • An understanding of The Kingdom of God, and that God's plan is God's Kingdom.
    They start with a good foundation.
     
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    Is there a difference between having eyes to see and ears to hear and being a prophet? (Ezekiel 12:2)(Proverbs 20:12)(Matthew 13:15)

    Apostle Paul was not a Prophet. He was an Apostle. He also was consider a "Mystic." Being a mystic may simply mean that someone has been receiving cause and effect with the Spiritual. A Christian Mystic has a relationship with God. When Apostle Paul was blinded by God, he may have started becoming a Christian Mystic. Prior to being Paul, Saul was a Biblical Scholar. All his learning may have started to become profound, and lit up in his head with a shift of perspective and God's Holy Spirit. Apostle Paul, not a Prophet.

    A Prophet may have a role or function.

    Link: Role of a Prophet
     
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    Nice OP!!

    I detect discernment and wisdom coming from you!! both fruits of the spirit!!

    The seer's in the bible that I'm aware of is Samuel, Nathan and Gad!! and just like u mentioned they detect things and see things ahead, they have extreme sensual abilities.

    like 4 instants in 1 Samuel 12:21 Samuel told the children 2 turn aside from playing with their idols coz he knew it would bring all kinds of turmoil and open up a can of worms, he sensed the trouble ahead so he put out the fire b4 it got started!! he was like their weather man so 2 speak, don't go here, stay away from their, watch out 4 that place.

    I myself am also getting a lot of messages from God and since becoming a Christian I see the world in extra 3D now!! God is constantly beaming down messages 2 me!! the world is becoming more and more transparent 2 me everyday!! and i'm becoming more and more aware of things!! theres so much more I could add but ill probly leave it 4 another day!

    I believe I'm a lot like Samuel in the bible and my real name is also Samuel. when he said 2 saul rebellion is as witchcraft and stubbornness as iniquity at 1st I thought it was just a simple expression but after careful examination I could tell that it was straight from the spirit!! only someone with good discernment would say that and like the way he said it, must of come very punchy,

    coz he was chiding saul so it must of came wiv a thrust, and he was speaking of God and not himself, God gives us discernment 2 discern him and wat he likes, what he expects etc. and he was full of discernment wen he said dat, he really knows God, was probly like a knee jurk reaction!!
     
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    Pool your money. You both owe me a new keyboard for making me spit coffee all over my other one. LOL But, I may forgive you, I needed a laugh today.
     
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    God reveals things 2 them, and They can see things dat ur average person cant like a lot of the people in dis forum and dats not a intellectual dig its a moral dig!!
     
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    I went to the Veterans Administration one day. This was in December 2014. I told a doctor I could talk to God and how, and various relevant Jonah type things that kept happening, and by late January 2015, I had 100% disability.

    Video:

    All joking aside, God is black and white. A variety of Christian Protestant movements may have started out hard. The pastor, as he gained popularity started compromising? Wrong answer. Who was he compromising with?

    What business does the dark have with the light? None.
     
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    God has had me working on Joel's Army, and The Book of Jude.

    Someone's heart needs to be in the right place.

    Song:
     
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    The following was posted on /r/jordanpeterson one day. Why /r/jordanpeterson? When he became famous, he seemed to be doing part of my job for me, and he soaked up a lot of hate from people who have been doing the wrong things when it comes to God. Regardless of if Dr. Jordan Peterson has been right or not theologically, what he did do right was draw a line. He drew a line and said no. No more. I respect him for that.

    Post: Nobodies Fault But Yours

    Also, now, I am capable of flooring some fake intellectuals and Psychologists with knowledge of Dr Carl Jung and some others.

    Nobodies Fault But Yours


    I have been a Watchmen of God. (Ezekiel 33) What does that mean? It may mean I have a sense of humor.

    Short Video: "The Comedian"

    Isaac means laughter. Given someone found or saw God in an epic way he may be laughing some?

    I have liked Dr. Jordan Peterson a lot. Why? Working for God full time, working to build the Kingdom of God, people who have been against God and God's Kingdom have also been against Dr. Jordan Peterson. I just had to show up?

    Song: "The Longest Time."


    Song: Killing Me Softly.


    Song: It's Been a Long, Long Time

    Song: Candy
     
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    I have yet to read one of Jordan Petersons books, but I have read many of his quotes. I like what he has to say based on them.
     
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    My understanding of Dr. Peterson has been a little different. One of the things he talks about that I have liked has been the idea of "Ideological Possession."

    Given I were to talk to an atheist about God online, he may have been an egotist, a blind man, and he used the exact same arguments that any other atheist I have found online may have used. He probably didn't read the Bible, but he may have said he did, in a lie, to look knowledgeable. He would like to believe that he was a "Free Thinker" but he was ideologically possessed and had mental issues.

    Dr. Peterson has been able to clear people of ideological possession. That may be a good place for a Christian Evangelist to be.
     
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    I have mostly watched some of his free Youtube lectures. I didn't need the books.
     
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    He's quite a thinker. That's, I think, what people don't like about him.
     
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    I like one quote a lot. Its something about...needing to be outside of a box when you examine its contents.
     
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    Are you guys talking about, Dr. Peterson, the Canadian Clinical Psychologist?
     
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    A lot of people's thoughts may have been framed into something. There is a big difference between a Modern Artist and a Renaissance artist? Their thoughts were framed or boxed into something.

    Dr. Peterson has talked about Hierarchies. In The World, there may have been many hierarchies. A hierarchy could be a Captain - Colonel - General. It could have been a Manager-District Manager-CEO. It could have been Professor-Dean-President of the University. It is natural for a student or someone in a hierarchy cede to authority and work in that hierarchy. Given a Pastor or Church created doctrines and dogmas it may be natural for people to work in those doctrines and dogmas. In The Parable of the Tenant Farmers, Luke 20:9-19, God's Vineyard was hired out to some workers. These workers were the teachers of religious law. Christians are supposed to be law abiding and do good. Being in these hierarchies may have been a natural thing. To see concepts and be at a higher level of things, someone may have been doing and creating through God. He was shepherded outside of hierarchies. He rejected The World, and he learned to see things more as God sees them.


    • Some people naturally may have had some sort of ideological or doctrinal box. They were taught that doctrine or ideology and they worked inside of it.

    • Some people are doing. They are not worried about being in a box. They go do.


    How does someone get there? Outside of hierarchies? It was in God's plan for someone possibly. They seek God and ask? They reject the World. They do what has been in the OP.
     
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    The same Dr. Peterson who plainly says he doesn't believe in God?
     
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    He used to be an atheist. Now he has been wishy washy about it, and said things like, more or less, "God seemed to have set me up for something." He said this in the context of his series on religion.

    The more interesting thing I have found is that someone like Dr. Carl Jung and even Dr. Jordan Peterson has been considered a mystic. Why? I am aware of why having studied the topic through God. It depends on how much someone would like to know?

    In general, what is a Psychologist? He is a "Secular Priest" who people confess their sins to, doing what a Priest may have been doing but in the realm of Modernism and Science absent Faith.
     
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    A fairly important point you seem to have overlooked is that priests boast of the ability to declare "absolution" for that confession..... Psychologists (I worked for one for more than two decades) do not.
     
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    That's not what I got from what I've read of him. Although I have seen that when any ideological group wants to attempt to claim him as their darling, it will be impossible for them because no sooner have they accepted him for what he said against the opposing ideology, he will most assuredly point out the fractures, inconsistencies and absurdities of their own.

    So anyone who tries to place him in any certain ideological box will run into trouble, because when they ask him, are you thus and thus or do you believe in such and such, he will immediately ask them to define "thus" and "such."
     
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