What is the difference between a Jew and a Christian?

[Matthias]

Bs"d

… where is JC to be found in the Hebrew Bible?

He is found in the messianic prophecies.

The difference between you, a Jew, and me, a Christian of “other faith”, isn’t in who God is. We are in agreement on that question.

The difference between you and me is in who Jesus of Nazareth is:

Jesus of Nazareth is not the prophesied Messiah. - you

Jesus of Nazareth is the prophesied Messiah. - me

@PanInVietnam

 

[Matthias]

What is the difference between a Jew and a Christian?

“There are substantial differences between Jews and Christians as they seek to understand the divine. The doctrines of Trinity and Incarnation remain non-Jewish understandings of the Godhead. Nevertheless, Christians clearly know a great deal about the God of Israel, and this knowledge directs them, no less than Jews, to God’s service.”

(David Ellenson, “A Jewish View of the Christian God: Some Cautionary and Hopeful Remarks”)

David Ellenson, “A Jewish View of the Christian God: Some Cautionary and Hopeful Remarks,” in Tikva Frymer-Kensky, et al., eds., Christianity in Jewish Terms (Boulder: Westview, 2000), 69-76

David Ellenson, “A Jewish View of the Christian God: Some Cautionary and Hopeful Remarks,” in Tikva Frymer-Kensky, et al., eds., Christianity in Jewish Terms (Boulder: Westview, 2000), 69-76

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Remembering that Jesus himself is a Jewish monotheist, is it possible for you to adopt Dr. Ellenson’s attitude toward trinitarians?

 

[Lizbeth]

Bs"d

I think we can agree on the fact that the NT brings us a new god, JC, that no one had heard of before.

What are we to do with that?

God tells us what to do in that case:

“If a prophet arises among you, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or wonder which he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or to that dreamer of dreams; for Y-H-W-H your God is testing you, to know whether you love Y-H-W-H your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 You shall walk after Y-H-W-H your God and fear him, and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and cleave to him. 5 But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against Y-H-W-H your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to make you leave the way in which Y-H-W-H your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from the midst of you.

6 “If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 some of the gods of the peoples that are round about you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, 8 you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him; 9 but you shall kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from Y-H-W-H your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and never again do any such wickedness as this among you."

Deut 13

He is there, but hidden in the scriptures. Which scriptures must be revealed to the heart/spirit by the Ruach Hakodesh....the natural mind of man cannot perceive the things of God, for they are spiritually discerned. The gospel of Yeshua HaMoshiach is the mystery of God that was hid from the foundation of the world.

Deu 18:18-19

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.


Pro 30:4

Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?


Dan 3:24-25

Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.

He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.


Dan 7:13

I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

 

[JesusFan]

He is found in the messianic prophecies.

The difference between you, a Jew, and me, a Christian of “other faith”, isn’t in who God is. We are in agreement on that question.

The difference between you and me is in who Jesus of Nazareth is:

Jesus of Nazareth is not the prophesied Messiah. - you

Jesus of Nazareth is the prophesied Messiah. - me

@PanInVietnam

Isaiah 9/Isaiah 53, Genesis 3 the Bible itself story is literally HIS story

 

[JustMe]

Bs"d

I don't know what the spirit of the Law is. That is also not important for me, because I do the letter of the law. Well, at least I try, for as much as possible.

Today, isn't this living the letter of the Law a lost cause? And what does it mean to try and live by this letter of the Law? I mean there's no Temple worship today for starters. You must only adhere to a Rabbinical version of the Law that you must live by, generated not by YHWH, by the traditions and opinions of men. You truths are written on pieces of paper, usually as sayings, mine in written in my heart, by YHWH.

 

[Matthias]

Isaiah 9/Isaiah 53, Genesis 3 the Bible itself story is literally HIS story

Welcome to the forum.

The Bible itself is primarily the story of God and man.

The New Testament writers confirm that the messianic prophecies are about Jesus. It’s just a matter of whether or not we believe them. I do. There was a time when @Eliyahu613 did. I would like for him to come back.

 

[The Learner]

time to rest