What is the difference between the gospel to the Jews and the gospel to the gentiles?

[Wick Stick]

Interesting. You most probably know that:

There were also two Bethlehems at the time Jesus was born.
One was in Judea and one in Galilea.

Micah 5:2
2 "But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans of Judah, From you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from long ago, From the days of eternity."

Bethlehem Ephratah would be the one near Jerusalem.

Never heard of a second Bethlehem. I only know the one in Ephraim

 

[GodsGrace]

Never heard of a second Bethlehem. I only know the one in Ephraim

Micah specified which Bethlehem because there were two.
Micah 5:2
2 "But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,....


Second, Micah “stuck his neck out” even farther when he identified the city as “Bethlehem Ephrathah.” Few people probably realize that Palestine contained two towns named Bethlehem.

source: Two Bethlehems? - Apologetics Press


The Bible specifically states the city was Bethlehem of Judea. “Joseph also went from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to the city of David called Bethlehem, because he was descended from the house and family of David. He went to be registered with Mary, to whom he was engaged and who was expecting a child” (Luke 2:4-5, NRSV).6 And in the Old Testament, there is a prophecy about Jesus being born in Bethlehem of Judea (also known as Bethlehem of Ephrathah).7

But you, O Bethlehem of Ephrathah,
who are one of the little clans of Judah,
from you shall come forth for me
one who is to rule in Israel,
whose origin is from of old,
from ancient days, (Micah 5:2).

source: There are Two Bethlehems — In Which One was Jesus Born? - The Outlaw Bible Student

 

[Luther7]

STV doesn't seem to have a clue!

Actually there is a problem today with this " two gospel" heresy. Many Christians have gotten caught up in this notion that Jesus will save the jews as a collective entity, the whole nation at one time, if you will. That's simply not Biblical.

God saves us as individuals. It doesn't matter if you are jewish, that means nothing in the way we receive eternal life, a precious gift from God.

 

[Luther7]

i do it almost everyday here where i live

#1 - My Jewish Father-in-law lives with us

#2 - We live in a community with many Jewish people with two synagogues

#3 - The local rabbis come to our house at least a few times a week

#4 - i have Jewish friends and neighbors

Hmmm. That would be really interesting the kind of exchange a Christian would have with a rabbi...... weekly at that. Do they talk about the talmud?

 

[Behold]

But it seems that there was a gospel message to the Jews and a gospel message to the gentiles.

When Jesus was here, you had The KOG on Earth, come down, so, you had the "gospel of the Kingdom"
So, it was to the Jews that this particular gospel applies.
John the Baptist explains this as "repent, as the KOG is at hand".....and It was, as Jesus was here on Earth.
= THis is not the Gospel of The Cross of Christ whereby any Jew or Gentile believer can be forgiven and born again., based on "Justification by FAITH".... as THAT Gospel is "in the time of the Gentiles"... that began with the Cross and will end when the Trib Starts.....

Some would teach this as the "church age" or the "age of Grace'.. if you are doing a study on the "times and seasons" found in the word of God.

The Trib is God resuming His dealing with Israel and its also the time when the world is Judged......so, this gospel reflects the coming of the KING........which is the same as When Jesus was here.
Its for the Jew.

Paul's Gospel is "everyone come to The Cross and find eternal forgiveness, imputed righteousness, and eternal salvation"

Paul's gospel is a universal OFFER to any Jew or Gentile who will come and believe.. while they are alive, ...regarding what Jesus has provided on The Cross, which is the blood atonement.

 

[St. SteVen]

Actually there is a problem today with this " two gospel" heresy. Many Christians have gotten caught up in this notion that Jesus will save the jews as a collective entity, the whole nation at one time, if you will. That's simply not Biblical.

God saves us as individuals. It doesn't matter if you are jewish, that means nothing in the way we receive eternal life, a precious gift from God.

The point of this topic is that the gospel is presented differently to different audiences.
Obviously the gospel to the Jews includes the view about Messiah Jesus.
Which doesn't make sense to gentiles.

What do you make of this?

Romans 11:25-27 NIV
I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters,
so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part
until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,
26 and in this way[a] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[b] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”[c]

 

[Lambano]

I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters,
so that you may not be conceited:

Well, we failed that part miserably.

 

[David in NJ]

Hmmm. That would be really interesting the kind of exchange a Christian would have with a rabbi...... weekly at that. Do they talk about the talmud?

i never give them opportunity to talk about the talmud

We talk about the TORAH and Moshe and the Prophets

One time they quoted talmud and i said that TORAH is ABOVE talmud and they should never equate the two.

 

[Wick Stick]

Actually there is a problem today with this " two gospel" heresy. Many Christians have gotten caught up in this notion that Jesus will save the jews as a collective entity, the whole nation at one time, if you will. That's simply not Biblical.

God saves us as individuals. It doesn't matter if you are jewish, that means nothing in the way we receive eternal life, a precious gift from God.

God reckons 'Israel' as those attached to the Root. The wild branches who believe are grafted in. The natural branches who disbelieve are pruned.

All Israel shall be saved... according to the way God reckons Israel.

The problem is that we reckon 'who is a Jew?' differently than God.

 

[Luther7]

When Jesus was here, you had The KOG on Earth, come down, so, you had the "gospel of the Kingdom"
So, it was to the Jews that this particular gospel applies.
John the Baptist explains this as "repent, as the KOG is at hand".....and It was, as Jesus was here on Earth.
= THis is not the Gospel of The Cross of Christ whereby any Jew or Gentile believer can be forgiven and born again., based on "Justification by FAITH".... as THAT Gospel is "in the time of the Gentiles"... that began with the Cross and will end when the Trib Starts.....

Some would teach this as the "church age" or the "age of Grace'.. if you are doing a study on the "times and seasons" found in the word of God.

The Trib is God resuming His dealing with Israel and its also the time when the world is Judged......so, this gospel reflects the coming of the KING........which is the same as When Jesus was here.
Its for the Jew.

Paul's Gospel is "everyone come to The Cross and find eternal forgiveness, imputed righteousness, and eternal salvation"

Paul's gospel is a universal OFFER to any Jew or Gentile who will come and believe.. while they are alive, ...regarding what Jesus has provided on The Cross, which is the blood atonement.

You said: "The Trib is God resuming His dealing with Israel ..."

I don't know where this teaching comes from, certainly not in Scripture.
God dealt with Israel by tearing the curtain of the Temple in two when Christ said
" IT IS FINISHED", thus the Old covenant, and the " chosen people" status of Israel ceased from any spiritual significance, let alone physical.

We're all the same now.

 

[Luther7]

God reckons 'Israel' as those attached to the Root. The wild branches who believe are grafted in. The natural branches who disbelieve are pruned.

All Israel shall be saved... according to the way God reckons Israel.

The problem is that we reckon 'who is a Jew?' differently than God.

The only " Jew" that has any significance with God's salvation plan is the " Jew" that is circumcised in the heart ( Romans 2:28-29).

We have to stop following the lead of the Judaizers. They want to bring true believers back into bondage.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Actually there is a problem today with this " two gospel" heresy.

there is Actually NO problem When God's Precious Word Of Truth Is Rightly
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God's Approval/TWO Gospels In Prophecy vs Mystery

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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
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Amen.